The point your missing is the effect it has on the others who finish above them all who are relegated. How does that make the game stronger?

Beaumonts got it right. Two leagues of 10.

Widnes went down as a result of Catalans coming up and Castleford went down as a result of them being protected......both clubs seem pretty OK as of the time of typing!


No he hasn't. 14 is a stretch........20 sides would just be the same 5 or 6 winning and the others not getting any better.
The Top 20 sides in the comp would be SL + London, Toronto, Leigh, Toulouse, Featherstone, Halifax, Batley and Sheffield.......as it stands Catalans would beat 7 of those sides and they are the worst SL side at present......what's the point of having Leeds stick 60+ on Batley?

Yes and that was the effect of protecting one club,now you want three protecting!

He didn't say 20 teams in SL,he said 2 leagues.. Division 1/2. The two SL clubs relegated to the 2nd division funding along with central funding would be split between the 10 teams.

The only problem with that is some clubs would use the funding to pay off director loans etc,instead of investing in going fulltime.

'I'm sorry, but Jean can't come to the phone right now. He's currently sat in front of his PC looking at the top 3 positions in the Championship with a bottle of baby oil and a big box of Kleenex".

Would back a SL of 2 divisions with all teams receiving the same money (maybe with some bonus incentives for finishing higher), but you would have to say that only full-time teams were allowed, so that would be around 16 teams (2 divisions of 8 ) now.

Then any other teams wishing to join SL would have to meet certain requirements to be let into SL2 and could then get promoted to SL1. Could be a good compromise between licensing and promotion/relegation.

To make the 2 divisions more connected you could even say that everyone played everyone in their own division home and away, but played everyone in the other division once as well.

Hi Lebron, maybe jean has hacked into your account then, cos I'm sure with him living in Chorley near the m6 and you in Wakefield he'd have a better idea.

Regards

Wayne.

You only have to look at the track record of these expansion teams to see there very little but a holiday destination for talented yet troubled individuals and will continue to be, from a youth development point of view all Jean has had to bang on with about Catalan is a overweight, run of the mill (Probably not even SL standard) winger that he quite hilariously likens to Billy Boston. They have had every chance to build some great French players over the years, whilst even been given exemption from relegation, and yet sign the likes of Dave Taylor and Todd Carney and wonder were there going wrong? They have even been stupid enough to give McNamara a three and a half year holiday down in the south of France.

Jean hides behind his keyboard beating on real rugby league towns and city`s in the north of England, in a pathetic attempt to in some way defend an absolute mockery of a club, other teams will follow this line of action.. Wait and see. They bring absolutely nothing to our game and people will only realise that when it is too late and we no longer have the Leigh`s, Wakefields, Castleford etcs.

Again, please tell me where I said they were on the M6 south bound for 2 hours. In fact, I will help you out. I actually said "2 hours before a game" which I know is hard for you to comprehend and understand, but this actually means they could be on it for anywhere between 1 minute and 16 hours. No where did I say they were on it for 2 hours, im just making the point that a couple of hours before the game the motorway is awash with fans.

Regards

King James

I understand your concerns but the truth is that the likes of Wakey, Cas & Leigh have been more than strong enough to outlive the expansion sides that might have threatened them. I'd like the expansion sides to survive and thrive but think it very likely that I'll still be watching those 3 sides when Toulouse and Toronto are distant memories. Catalans too for that matter.

Pointless, they will be returning over the channel with there tail between there legs after there visit to Post Office Rd next week.

2 Leagues of 10 would just be a 10 team Super League and a 10 team Championship. Sky wouldn’t show Championship games just like they don’t now and all the best players would want to play Super League.

We had it right with a 14 team Super League and shouldn’t have changed from that.

If I'm being honest, I don't mind the 12 in each leagues we have now.

The problem is more the systems for p&r, and the league.

I would personally change it too.

Get rid of the Magic /Summer bash weekends. They're adding nothing to the game, and aren't even being used for what they were brought in for.

(This applies for both leagues), the 12 teams play each other home & Away. Then split, with the top 6 in both divisions playing 1 more game against each other (3 home, 3 away). The bottom 6 will play there extra games against each other. All sides keeping the points gained at the split, and carrying on from there.

Top 4 in SL play off for the GF. 12th team relegated/top of the championship promoted. 11th team joins the championship play offs, away to 2nd place team. 3rd v 4th the other semi. Winner of play offs in SL.
Bottom team in the championship relegated to league 1. Winner of league 1 promoted. 11th placed team in championship joins the league 1 play offs. Same format as above.

Oh and ALL SL SIDES (AND ASPIRING SL SIDES) MUST HAVE A RESERVE TEAM.

The money argument really dosn't stack up, if Keighley and Halifax can run teams when they don't get as much revenue from TV etc. Anymore.

Sorry.
That should have read - after the split the top 3 in each part (1,2,3 & 7,8,9) get 3 home games & 2 away. The bottom 3 2 home games, 3 away.

For those who couldn't get to the game, here are the highlights of terrific Toulouse's comprehensive victory over swindling Swinton: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=208cgqU ... e=youtu.be

For those who couldn't get to the game, here are the highlights of terrific Toulouse's comprehensive victory over swindling Swinton: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=208cgqU ... e=youtu.be

Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"For those who couldn't get to the game, here are the highlights of terrific Toulouse's comprehensive victory over swindling Swinton: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=208cgqU ... e=youtu.be'" Thanks. Can you also post the link to Wonderful Widnes' comprehensive victory over Calamitous Catalans?

Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"For those who couldn't get to the game, here are the highlights of terrific Toulouse's comprehensive victory over swindling Swinton: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=208cgqU ... e=youtu.be'" Thanks. Can you also post the link to Wonderful Widnes' comprehensive victory over Calamitous Catalans?

No they didn't. A second division of 10 including all the new expansion clubs all full-time would get the kids leaving the game at 19 at present make them think twice. 14 in SL wouldn't touch that aspect.

Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"For those who couldn't get to the game, here are the highlights of terrific Toulouse's comprehensive victory over swindling Swinton: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=208cgqU ... e=youtu.be'" You keep on putting on record comments like "swindling Swinton". I'm not a lawyer, but I believe that repeated comments of this nature on a public forum are potentially libellous unless you have concrete evidence that Swinton RLFC are guilty of any fraudulent activities. As to whether Toulouse are terrific is just a matter of opinion. Just saying...

Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"For those who couldn't get to the game, here are the highlights of terrific Toulouse's comprehensive victory over swindling Swinton: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=208cgqU ... e=youtu.be'" You keep on putting on record comments like "swindling Swinton". I'm not a lawyer, but I believe that repeated comments of this nature on a public forum are potentially libellous unless you have concrete evidence that Swinton RLFC are guilty of any fraudulent activities. As to whether Toulouse are terrific is just a matter of opinion. Just saying...

Do you know the difference between "there" and "their?" ..... Oh sorry, I forgot that you are from Wakefield.

You could always try they're instead jeannie


Btw have you had any luck locating the London borough of Arsenal yet

Vastman has the same problem as do a few others on here and social media. A sad reflection of society/education/not paying attention at school that so many people think "there" can be used in all context, when they would be more likely to get it right by using "their".

To single myself and others (Such as Vastman) out as a "Sad reflection on society" because i used the wrong there is quite bizzare, you and Jean are a sad reflection on society for constantly nit-picking at grammar and spelling as you obviously have very little to do. The fact that i am posting leisurely on a forum, most of the time on a mobile phone i take little consideration in pleasing people with perfect grammar and spelling - Did the thought ever cross your mind that their are people out there with registered disabilities which effects there skills to write a decent sentence, i think you should maybe think before you open up to your keyboard and make ridiculous judgements to make yourself feel better.

Why is the use of "sad reflection of society" and other options in relation to a general observation about numerous people on the internet and social media a personal dig at you? Maybe you could re-read my original post and understand the context it is in.

I appreciate sms/online text can be misinterpreted. I sense that you've taken a general observation of a "sad reflection of society" is something you've taken personally when it most certainly was not personal. It was general.

He’s had as much luck as you have understanding what “2 hours before” means. He has no defence though as he’s not from Leigh or Wakefield like you

Regards

King James

Absolutely superb response leedsnsouths



& John Flatcap Dozey of Chorley would do well to brush up on his geography as there is no such thing as Greater Wigan *which I am sure he knows*, as a true Mancunian & adopted Leyther & having learned the history of Leigh, I can tell you that most Leigh folk would rather be taken back out of the Wigan Borough.

Toulouse & Toronto Mr John Flatcap ?
Toulouse will be nowhere & TW in the MPG v Calamitous Catalans ....
with Leigh already promoted, then let's see the $#!T hit the fan & *fans* of the RFL & those 2 Clubs.