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| Quote ="Dita's Slot Meter"Quote ="Fungus The Muffin Man"It's easy to laugh and mock when you've been watching Saints steamroller their way through SL for the past x amount of years.
Some one with vision will realise that being the first person to sign up for what potentially could be one of the best things to happen to Euro SL eventually is worth the risk.
I agree it will have to be a very brave player, but that player will also have a huge confidence in his own abilities and pulling power to help entice the beginning of the new era.
We all know Sam Tomkins is to much of a onetrick pony ehouse to have the balls to pull off something like that
It's players with that brave vision who go on to become the greats of Rugby league.'"
I follow Warrington actually....
I agree with what you say to an extent, but the reality is that Koukash is expecting far too much, too soon.
Using Wire as an example, Simon Moran started throwing his cash about in 2002 - It took him almost 10 years to see any reward for his efforts....The quality of signing was a steady improvement over that time - At the start, the quality of player we have now, simply wouldn't consider coming to Wire.
Koukash has to realise this isn't football - He cant just do an Abramovich. He desparately needs somebody to rein him in and advise him properly....Personally, I'd sack Vievers immediately and bring in Brian Noble.'"
That's the one thing he desperately doesn't need. He came in wanting to acheive big things quickly. Good luck to the guy. If you want to rein him in, you might as well tell him to just go away, since this sport isn't meant for the likes of him. We only react like the Tomkins thing is a joke because of the small-minded view we have of our little sport which means we just don't have this imagination to believe a Chelsea or Man City style turnaound is possible. And I'm a Wigan fan who'd want to see Wigan fight to keep Tomkins. But anyone who can keep him in SL is good enough for me.
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| I read somewhere Tim Sheens might be willing to coach over here after the world cup.
What sort of odds would you get on Mr Koukash installing him as their coach for next season, I reckon the chance to play under a coach of Sheens quality would have players queing around Barton Bridge.
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| The blokes a dick who seems to shoot from the hip. Why slag of in public.
Lets see where he and the Reds are in 3 years
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| Quote ="wire quin"The blokes a dick who seems to shoot from the hip. Why slag of in public.
Lets see where he and the Reds are in 3 years'"
put it this way, we'll be in a miles better position than we are today.
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| Quote ="wire quin"The blokes a dick who seems to shoot from the hip. Why slag of in public.
Lets see where he and the Reds are in 3 years'"
You seem to have a real issue with our new owner. Don't know why your resorting to personal insults against someone you have never met and a club you couldn't care less about.
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| Quote ="Fungus The Muffin Man"You seem to have a real issue with our new owner. Don't know why your resorting to personal insults against someone you have never met and a club you couldn't care less about.'"
one word worried!
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| If he wants to sling his money about...a bid of a penny would get him Brett Seymour
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| Quote ="RED LEAGUE"one word worried!
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Why would anyone be "worried" about this guy splashing the cash? Good luck to him I say...he realises that Salford need crowds of 10k+ to be self sufficient and he had definite plans to get them to that position...I really hope he does it because it will show other clubs what can be achieved if they promote themselves properly.
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"He will have no choice. There is literally no other reason that any decent player would want to play for Salford.'"
Dont talk wet Greg - 6 months ago - Patton, Gleeson, Moon,Holdsworth, Smith etc - these players take a bit of replacing & I would estimate that 60% of the cap is still available. Watch this space.
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| Personally i'd love to see a competitive Salford and i think i will...in at least 4 years.
It will be a slow burner, the really good players that are out of contract or after a better option will realise that success will take time to build, possibly not want to be part of the long game.
What i can see is Salford picking up the good but disruptive players eg Hock.
The talented but 2nd choice types sick of waiting in the wings.
The good players after the extra security of a longer contract than their current team can provide.
Young kids not interested in playing duel reg
Mercenaries.
Aussies/Kiwi's good enough to make an impact in SL but not good enough to stay in NRL team of their choice.
That will be the formula until they start to make the 8, after that mission is accomplished then he can start his mission to attract the best like Tomkins.
If he's in this for the long term i can see Salford competing in the playoffs in the future but not for at the very least 3 years but realistically 4 to 5 years.
I like the guy though.
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| Quote ="RED LEAGUE"Why wouldn't Salford be spending near the cap? You've lost me?'"
Your not the brightest bulb in the box are you
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| Quote ="j.c"Your not the brightest bulb in the box are you'"
Oh arnt I? It seems its your bulb that isn't so bright, I assume your talking about spending the percentage of your profits? Koukash only has to sponsor the club and he can spend what he likes as sponsorship is included in total yearly profits, so if he sponsors Salford for the 1.6 million cap that'll mean they'll be free to spend it.
You never heard of a football club by the name of manchester city? And there etihad airways sponsorship? It's a loop hole that businessmen will use to get around salary caps of such.
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| Quote ="RED LEAGUE"Oh arnt I? It seems its your bulb that isn't so bright, I assume your talking about spending the percentage of your profits? Koukash only has to sponsor the club and he can spend what he likes as sponsorship is included in total yearly profits, so if he sponsors Salford for the 1.6 million cap that'll mean they'll be free to spend it.
You never heard of a football club by the name of manchester city? And there etihad airways sponsorship? It's a loop hole that businessmen will use to get around salary caps of such.'"
You're missing the point entirely. SL cap is not linked to revenue any more. He doesn't need creative accounting, via sponsorship or whatever, to pay £1.6million. He just needs the money or the means to secure loans to pay it. As for football, you're referring to Financial Fair Play - that's something different.
As for Koukash, he sounds impatient for results. Nothing wrong with that as long as he doesn't approach it too destructively and sack people toonquicky. From before he bought them, it was clear a) he wanted the ground and b) he knows he needs that to make Salford sustainable. He hasn't got the ground yet - I'm sure he'll update us on that very soon.
The only thing that would trouble me slightly if I was a Salford fan is his propensity to take the the local radio station and the local rag, the M.E.N. I appreciate he us trying to raise the profile and stuff but it might be sensible to reign it in a tad - doesn't want to become known as a bit of rent a quote, particularly if a lack of experience leads him to say something foolish.
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| I did wonder Ian if that was a ploy to get cheap publicity/awareness, Salford need it and he's certainly keeping them in the public eye.
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| Maybe the first thing he needs to do is play out board issues in the board room rather than through local radio.
Is he not a little embarrassed about the Tomkins affair. He has also missed out on Morley, Chase.... why not operate with some discretion and keep buisness plans to the board room
Slagging off players and insinuating the coach isnt up to it 10 mins after a loss on the radio doesnt suggest sound business acumen to me.
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| Quote ="wire quin"Maybe the first thing he needs to do is play out board issues in the board room rather than through local radio.
Is he not a little embarrassed about the Tomkins affair. He has also missed out on Morley, Chase.... why not operate with some discretion and keep buisness plans to the board room
Slagging off players and insinuating the coach isnt up to it 10 mins after a loss on the radio doesnt suggest sound business acumen to me.'"
I think it's a breath of fresh air for the Salford fans to be honest, we've had 30 years of wilkinson keeping quiet and accepting mediocrity giving people who aren't upto the job far too much time, Koukash will not accept another 30 years of the same. He's not actually slagged anyone off, if you listen to his interview he says he will give people the chance to prove themselves and if they aren't up to the job their out the door. It was jack deardon who mentioned coaches not the Dr. He's got the right drive and is mearly apologising to the fans. Like I said he's a breath of fresh air.
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| Quote www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/21642083'"
I understand where you are coming from; a month ago you were gone now you have a great future ahead. That's fantastic not just for Salford but for RL
I do believe in time he will look back on his way of operating and think maybe it wasnt best for the club.
Its different for sure. The only real sell he has at the moment is money (and that is restricted) and a club on the up. Which top class players realistically will buy that?
Tomkin's is the darling of RL and at the big name at the biggest club in UK. The one he has followed. He is living a dream. The next step you would imagine for him will be massive International RU crowds and a big pay packet or a big NRL club with a significant salary...not Salford on the start of some guys dream
Who is the full back he said you would be signing Sat?
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| Quote ="wire quin"Maybe the first thing he needs to do is play out board issues in the board room rather than through local radio.
Is he not a little embarrassed about the Tomkins affair. He has also missed out on Morley, Chase.... why not operate with some discretion and keep buisness plans to the board room
Slagging off players and insinuating the coach isnt up to it 10 mins after a loss on the radio doesnt suggest sound business acumen to me.'"
Was it Salford that leaked the news of these attempted signings or Wigan/Warrington/Castleford?
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| Lots of clubs go for lots of players that we never get to hear about.
Are you now suggesting a conspiracy by the clubs against the Reds?
Who is the FB the Dr said you were signing Sat? Im curious to know who it is and whether it fits in with what he is saying!
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| Quote ="wire quin"Lots of clubs go for lots of players that we never get to hear about.
Are you now suggesting a conspiracy by the clubs against the Reds?'"
Eh? How did you get all Mulder and Scully from a straightforward question?
Quote ="wire quin"Who is the FB the Dr said you were signing Sat? Im curious to know who it is and whether it fits in with what he is saying!'"
Why would I know that?
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| [url=http://www.reds.co.uk/rugby-news/reds-part-company-with-veiverswell we need a new coach[/url
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| Quote Who is the FB the Dr said you were signing Sat? Im curious to know who it is and whether it fits in with what he is saying!
Why would I know that?'"
...'cause the Dr said on Fri night 10 mins after the game it would be signed up Sat. In keeping with his very public profile I thought this would be another way to keep him and his club on the front pages
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| Quote ="scott-the-red"[url=http://www.reds.co.uk/rugby-news/reds-part-company-with-veiverswell we need a new coach[/url'"
I'm hearing Tony Iro...
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| The best way to attract players to a club with a low profile is a Grade A coach, he should pay top dollar for a big name Aussie coach.
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