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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"So you don't think it at all strange that the ONLY folks who think it was a 'tackle' are Cas fans?
Surely some fans elsewhere would come by this conclusion if it was in anyway in doubt.
So far none have.
Strange that eh!!'"
Do you want me to lie and say that I think he did it on purpose, went out to elbow Ropati in the face, break his jaw and then give him the dreaded "menacing look" whilst he was on the ground?
I'm not defending it was a bad challenge, I just don't think it was premeditated as people seem to think it was.
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| Quote ="vbfg"I think it's one of the worst elbows I've ever seen. Easily on a par with Cassidy on Morley.
Feel free to mention me in court.'"
That's an opinion
The problem is the people making claims it was a premeditated "attack" with the only intent was to cause injury.
Having an opinion it was an elbow is fine, albeit slightly wrong (last contact is with the elbow which is down to sloppy technique).
Quote ="Legionited"Do you want me to lie and say that I think he did it on purpose, went out to elbow Ropati in the face, break his jaw and then give him the dreaded "menacing look" whilst he was on the ground?
I'm not defending it was a bad challenge, I just don't think it was premeditated as people seem to think it was.'"
Sssshhhh!
Some people don't know the difference between unfortunate accident due to poor technique and premeditated attack with the intention to end a career.
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| Quote ="Gronk!"Look at the 2nd gif posted by Dumdum, first contact from that angle appears to be a head clash. Why his arm comes up after it, well that is his terrible technique when he shoulder charges, as many people have said - he does it EVERY WEEK and 99% of the time, it's a legal hit.
It's reckless and an unfortunate accident.
I'd suggest this thread be closed because all the people claiming it to be a premeditated attack, calling for him to be charged and saying he should be sued could get this website in a lot of trouble.'"
Club bias related player defence reaches an unsavoury all time low.
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| Quote ="Legionited"Do you want me to lie and say that I think he did it on purpose, went out to elbow Ropati in the face, break his jaw and then give him the dreaded "menacing look" whilst he was on the ground?
I'm not defending it was a bad challenge, I just don't think it was premeditated as people seem to think it was.'" You are still no answering thet point I am making.
No one but cas fans see it as a 'tackle'
That in itself should tell you something.
If you want to see it as such then fine but please don't try and tell other folks they are wrong when ALL the neutrals are of the same opinion.
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| Quote ="Gronk!"
I'd suggest this thread be closed because all the people claiming it to be a premeditated attack, calling for him to be charged and saying he should be sued could get this website in a lot of trouble.'"
I'd suggest this thread be closed because of the disgusting defence of a mindless act of violence by an increasingly desparate sounding cas fan!
Embarrasing!
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"You are still no answering thet point I am making.
No one but cas fans see it as a 'tackle'
That in itself should tell you something.
If you want to see it as such then fine but please don't try and tell other folks they are wrong when ALL the neutrals are of the same opinion.'"
I'm fairly sure that I have seen non-Cas fans in this thread saying it was a bad tackle but perhaps I am wrong on that.
I also haven't told anybody they are wrong, simply stated my own opinion on the matter which I am entitled to as much as you or anyone else is.
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| Quote ="Gronk!"That's an opinion
The problem is the people making claims it was a premeditated "attack" with the only intent was to cause injury.
Having an opinion it was an elbow is fine, albeit slightly wrong (last contact is with the elbow which is down to sloppy technique).'"
An elbow is raised to jaw height by Chase, he follows through, and one of the consequences was a broken jaw.
That's not opinion.
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| Quote ="Legionited"I'm fairly sure that I have seen non-Cas fans in this thread saying it was a bad tackle but perhaps I am wrong on that.
I also haven't told anybody they are wrong, simply stated my own opinion on the matter which I am entitled to as much as you or anyone else is.'" They did until they saw the replays on here at which point they quickly changed their minds.
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| Quote ="Gronk!"Look at the 2nd gif posted by Dumdum, first contact from that angle appears to be a head clash. Why his arm comes up after it, well that is his terrible technique when he shoulder charges, as many people have said - he does it EVERY WEEK and 99% of the time, it's a legal hit.
It's reckless and an unfortunate accident.
I'd suggest this thread be closed because all the people claiming it to be a premeditated attack, calling for him to be charged and saying he should be sued could get this website in a lot of trouble.'"
Give over, in no way is that a head clash!
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| Chase is looking at Ropati before his feet leave the ground and before he swings his elbow through his face and subsequently breaking his jaw, after the malicious attack, not one single Cas player checks if he is ok, More importantly - Chase, who will have known full well how much contact he made, may even have felt it break. Instead e stuck his chest out, clenched his fists and trotted off all happy with himself at doing what he set out to do, which was put in a massive hit.
Poor technique is not the reason that Chase's arm/elbow ended up across an opponents face, like I've said, Chase saw where his arm was yet still followed through with all of his weight, additionally he jumped into it which has added more force.
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| Quote ="dum-dum"Chase is looking at Ropati before his feet leave the ground and before he swings his elbow through his face and subsequently breaking his jaw, after the malicious attack, not one single Cas player checks if he is ok, More importantly - Chase, who will have known full well how much contact he made, may even have felt it break. Instead e stuck his chest out, clenched his fists and trotted off all happy with himself at doing what he set out to do, which was put in a massive hit.
Poor technique is not the reason that Chase's arm/elbow ended up across an opponents face, like I've said, Chase saw where his arm was yet still followed through with all of his weight, additionally he jumped into it which has added more force.'"
spot on... from start to finish.
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| Quote ="dum-dum"Chase is looking at Ropati before his feet leave the ground and before he swings his elbow through his face and subsequently breaking his jaw, after the malicious attack, not one single Cas player checks if he is ok, More importantly - Chase, who will have known full well how much contact he made, may even have felt it break. Instead e stuck his chest out, clenched his fists and trotted off all happy with himself at doing what he set out to do, which was put in a massive hit.
Poor technique is not the reason that Chase's arm/elbow ended up across an opponents face, like I've said, Chase saw where his arm was yet still followed through with all of his weight, additionally he jumped into it which has added more force.'"
Couldn't have said it better myself. Quite sickening. The reaction after it happened is even more disgusting than the challenge itself.
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| Quote ="Gronk!"No, during a quiet period at work we actually discussed this and we came to a 15 to 3 consensus this thread contains enough material to successfully sue the website/individual posters.
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Then fifteen of you are massive cocks.
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| I remember Senior accidentally breaking Walkers leg right in front of me, no messing about he signalled the referee straight away, different situation and different break but like Senior, most players following a poor tackle, break or no break, would check if the player was ok, Chase didn't bring attention to it either because he didn't want the ref to realise what had happened and give a penalty or because he felt he'd done nothing wrong which is quite disturbing.
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| Quote ="Gronk!"...with a grudge against Chase. '"
You're wrong about everything so far, and this is no exception. Look back at the thread on the Hull board from the week after we played your lot. Many posters, myself included, were saying what an excellent player Chase is, what a great game he had, how he looked dangerous every time he had the ball, and how they'd love to see him wearing a Hull shirt. I'm sure plenty of fans of other clubs have said similar things. Unless those posters have suddenly developed a grudge against Chase between then and now, there must be another reason they all think his attack on Ropati's head was deliberate, cowardly and malicious.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"Then fifteen of you are massive cocks.'"
I would argue that those 15 people exist in his imagination.
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"I would argue that those 15 people exist in his imagination.'"
He's imagining 15 massive cocks?
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| Quote ="Rock God X"He's imagining 15 massive cocks?'"
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| Now everyone stop being nasty to poor Gronk. If you don't he'll sue you all.
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| oh dear oh dear gronk,still trying to defend the tackle eh lad? your so bias its untrue and seriously deluded saying its his technique why it went all wrong.
il tell you what folks lets see what gronk says when rangi super duper chase kops one like that and has his jaw broken, i bet its words something like "the culprit should be banned for life"!!!
i truly believe chase will get his come uppance and what goes around comes around, the dirty &*@% should be issuing a public apology asap in my view, that would make a good start then he should be fined heavily and banned for 6-8 matches!!!
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| Quote ="dum-dum"Chase is looking at Ropati before his feet leave the ground and before he swings his elbow through his face and subsequently breaking his jaw, after the malicious attack, not one single Cas player checks if he is ok, More importantly - Chase, who will have known full well how much contact he made, may even have felt it break. Instead e stuck his chest out, clenched his fists and trotted off all happy with himself at doing what he set out to do, which was put in a massive hit.
Poor technique is not the reason that Chase's arm/elbow ended up across an opponents face, like I've said, Chase saw where his arm was yet still followed through with all of his weight, additionally he jumped into it which has added more force.'"
No need for me to go back 30 odd pages then what he said ^
The reaction to be honest was the worst thing and I lost a lot of respect for one of the very best players in SL right now. The RFL disciplinary should be reported by Fev for only giving that a Grade C charge - disgusting!
He wanted to put a shot on to lift his side but in a simply house way did it to cause direct damage to a colleague. I never like to bring personal circumstances / injuries into judging how bad a tackle was as some can be accidental. But that was a part time lad who now may struggle to pay his mortgage. Hope he's proud of himself. Makes you feel sick with all his 'I left Aus / NZ for a better life playing rugby, yup... just like Tangi did!
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| Quote ="Him"Now everyone stop being nasty to poor Gronk. If you don't he'll sue you all.'"
I'm actually cringing at some of the stuff Gronk is posting on this thread.
Its gone from silly to plain ridiculous!!
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| Quote ="Rock God X"Then fifteen of you are massive cocks.'"
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| No point trying to get through the likes of Gronk and Fully - stubborn as two old ladies fighting over a handbag.
Anyway I've said it before, I'll say it again - for however long Ropati is out for, so should Chase.
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| Quote ="Gronk!"
I'd suggest this thread be closed because all the people claiming it to be a premeditated attack, calling for him to be charged and saying he should be sued could get this website in a lot of trouble.'"
Given how keen admin on this site are to avoid any legal issues, suggests that they are so far, pretty comfortable with what's been written
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