[quote="Big Steve":1qsjf9ja]Not sure if it's been posted elsewhere but Peet confirmed Ethan needs an operation so he'll be out for a good few months. Real shame for him, I think it's his 3rd bad hamstring injury now ?[/quote:1qsjf9ja] At least 2nd but not the same leg that caused his issues before the 2023 GF.

[quote="Big Steve":1hdqalre]Not sure if it's been posted elsewhere but Peet confirmed Ethan needs an operation so he'll be out for a good few months. Real shame for him, I think it's his 3rd bad hamstring injury now ?[/quote:1hdqalre] He looks such an athlete Havard that you half wonder if he'd be less at risk if he let himself go a bit! If this is on the other hamstring from the injury at the end of 2023, hopefully it might sort it all once and for all.

[quote="NickyKiss":10acrk3p]He looks such an athlete Havard that you half wonder if he'd be less at risk if he let himself go a bit! If this is on the other hamstring from the injury at the end of 2023, hopefully it might sort it all once and for all.[/quote:10acrk3p] Can anyone remember how long he was out with the last hamstring injury?

[quote="Fujiman":ir61b5im]Can anyone remember how long he was out with the last hamstring injury?[/quote:ir61b5im] Grand Final through to mid April I think.

[quote="Fujiman":1bcgotg0]Can anyone remember how long he was out with the last hamstring injury?[/quote:1bcgotg0] Hw got the injury in October 2023 Grand Final v Catalan and returned in late April 2024, so that's about six months.

[quote="Fujiman":3nd8rjxb]Can anyone remember how long he was out with the last hamstring injury?[/quote:3nd8rjxb] His return was at HKR on 26th April from what I can see, so he missed about 6 months and 2 weeks. Fingers crossed it's not as severe as that one but the indications seem to suggest it may be.

Not sure on time scale as the one he got in GF was on top of an operation he had been returning to early from with hindsight. If it’s the same one as Bevan and Jai suffered it will be some time though. I seem to think Jai was injured first game and was back playing towards the later end of Summer from memory.

[quote="That Mon":1vacidnr]Not sure on time scale as the one he got in GF was on top of an operation he had been returning to early from with hindsight. If it’s the same one as Bevan and Jai suffered it will be some time though. I seem to think Jai was injured first game and was back playing towards the later end of Summer from memory.[/quote:1vacidnr] Barely. I think he played about a game and a half and looked completely shot. He needed another pre season to get back to full fitness.

From a glass half full point of view, if you were looking at the squad and had to pick a position where we had to pick up a knock then it would be prop. It’s obviously not ideal, but another positive spin is we get a player back who will be very fresh for the second half of the season. It’s got to be gutting for the lad though and obviously a blow for the start of the season.

[quote="jonh":1efo3qbf]From a glass half full point of view, if you were looking at the squad and had to pick a position where we had to pick up a knock then it would be prop. It’s obviously not ideal, but another positive spin is we get a player back who will be very fresh for the second half of the season. It’s got to be gutting for the lad though and obviously a blow for the start of the season.[/quote:1efo3qbf] We should be ok. After all, we are buying Matty Lee's out of his 1 year Saints option so he can probably fill in

[quote="[Gareth]":9vnhmx42]We should be ok. After all, we are buying Matty Lee's out of his 1 year Saints option so he can probably fill in [/quote:9vnhmx42] Somebody on RedVee said they'd want £2m to let him go a year early Imagine shelling out a fee that is nearly five times the British transfer record, simply to get Matty Lees a year early He's a good superleague player Lees but I get the feeling a couple of clubs (and his agent) are driving up what Saints will need to pay to keep him (which I'm sure they will). Lees could really come up trumps financially from Knowles expected exit.

[quote="NickyKiss":30piew8v]Somebody on RedVee said they'd want £2m to let him go a year early Imagine shelling out a fee that is nearly five times the British transfer record, simply to get Matty Lees a year early He's a good superleague player Lees but I get the feeling a couple of clubs (and his agent) are driving up what Saints will need to pay to keep him (which I'm sure they will). Lees could really come up trumps financially from Knowles expected exit.[/quote:30piew8v] Lets hope so. For the type of money he wants it would the equivalent of Utd buying Casemiro. Have his moments but not worth the outlay

There’s no chance Field will get a starting gig in the NRL with how weak his carries are. He’s great for us in so many ways and I wouldn’t trade him for any other SL fullback. But them carries when he gets isolated are awful. Gets dominated every time.

[quote="NSW":39n8c4iq]There’s no chance Field will get a starting gig in the NRL with how weak his carries are. He’s great for us in so many ways and I wouldn’t trade him for any other SL fullback. But them carries when he gets isolated are awful. Gets dominated every time.[/quote:39n8c4iq] Baffles me why he doesn’t take ‘The Sam’ approach to kick returns. Just don’t run them in. Give it off to your winger and let him work. Leave the gas in the tank for the other moments in the game.

I thought we missed Miski last night coming away from our line and maybe Field would've laid a few more passes off to him, had he been in the side. Eckersley spent most of the night running sideways when he was bringing it out (he defended really well though).

We’ve got to be looking at Eckersley as a centre or fullback only, and even then I’m not too confident with his catching, which then lends himself more to centre. Keighran is potentially off and he’s a very frustrating player with too many dips in general over the season for me. He’s been warned about poor discipline already so if Eckersley can develop a bit more physically then I could see him slotting in there.

We'll probably find out for the Hull FC game. Likely Keighran will cop a ban so squad selection will be crucial for the right side. Either way a lot will depend whether Miski plays or not.

Give Douglas a run out on wing if Miski isn’t fit

[quote="Father Ted":15tncbw2]We'll probably find out for the Hull FC game. [b:15tncbw2][u:15tncbw2]Likely Keighran will cop a ban[/u:15tncbw2][/b:15tncbw2] so squad selection will be crucial for the right side. Either way a lot will depend whether Miski plays or not.[/quote:15tncbw2] If he gets a Grade C - He won't get a ban under the new disciplinary system. If he gets a Grade D - He will get a 2 match ban.

[quote="Cokey":s9wljtx3]If he gets a Grade C - He won't get a ban under the new disciplinary system. If he gets a Grade D - He will get a 2 match ban.[/quote:s9wljtx3] How many points is he carrying forward or is everyone starting with a clean slate?

[quote="bazdev":bul7m6tk]How many points is he carrying forward or is everyone starting with a clean slate?[/quote:bul7m6tk] Clean slate.

[quote="Cokey":3jfiux8l]Clean slate.[/quote:3jfiux8l] has that been formally announced anywhere? I know Sam Burgess complained about it a few weeks back, and carrying over from last year, when players had already been punished v an overseas signing coming with a clean slate was a ridiculous system, but i havent seen anything since to say it has changed, but happy to be proven wrong as i cant believe (or i can actually its the RFL) that was the system they were going with

[quote="Mark_P1973":390coqva]has that been formally announced anywhere? I know Sam Burgess complained about it a few weeks back, and carrying over from last year, when players had already been punished v an overseas signing coming with a clean slate was a ridiculous system, but i havent seen anything since to say it has changed, but happy to be proven wrong as i cant believe (or i can actually its the RFL) that was the system they were going with[/quote:390coqva] https://www.rugby-league.com/article/63 ... -for-2025-

[quote="Mark_P1973":390coqva]has that been formally announced anywhere? I know Sam Burgess complained about it a few weeks back, and carrying over from last year, when players had already been punished v an overseas signing coming with a clean slate was a ridiculous system, but i havent seen anything since to say it has changed, but happy to be proven wrong as i cant believe (or i can actually its the RFL) that was the system they were going with[/quote:390coqva] https://www.rugby-league.com/article/63 ... -for-2025-

[quote="MadDogg":3b9oge4a]https://www.rugby-league.com/article/63427/on-field-sentencing-guidelines-for-2025-[/quote:3b9oge4a] Hadn't seen that, makes total sense.

Can see why Wigan wanted this Oli Pratt from Wakey when they were relegated. Absolutely outstanding tonight!