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| I agree. ^
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| Quote ="vastman"Only players who aren't doing anything don't make mistakes - so yes world class. I've seen Slater, Thurston and even Wally Lewis make howlers so what.
As I say this vendetta with Tomkins is pure jealousy nothing more - especially from Hull fans which is no surprise.'"
I'm sure you've explained this elsewhere but why are we all jealous of Tomkins again? Because he is good at RL? Well, I admit that he is but that's OK, most people are better than me. Because he is well paid? Again, sure that he is. However he'll be retired in 10 years but will still have to work for a living just like the rest of us.
I really don't get this 'jealous' thing. Sam Tomkins is a superb RL player. He is also a tool pipe. He is a modern day Garry Schofield - where is the jealousy?
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| I don't understand why people are quick to put Tomkins down. Simply put he is an outstanding talent and he could cut it in the NRL I'm sure.
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| Quote ="Jonesy"Tomkins is not anywhere those three players at this point of his career.
He is 22 years old, that is not particularly young in the scope of things.
Greg Inglis is 24
Jarryd Hayne 23
He may go on to be great at International level but he is not even on the radar at this point.
I do not think his build or style will get him there but I really hope he proves me wrong.'"
Well, seeing as you brought Jarrod Hayne into the equation, could you please explain what impact this 23 year old has made on the International scene?
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| Quote ="vastman"Well your continued under achievement mixed with your Phenomenal sense of superiority has left the bulk of your fans bitter and unfulfilled which saddens me. I feel you suffer the green eyed monster more than most.'"
'eh
So you believe because our team has been cr@p for the last 3 years this is the reason we believe Sam Tomkins is an arrogant unprofessional little runt...
How do you account for all the other clubs boo'ing him then ?.....
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| Quote ="vastman"Of course I have an argument and it's wiping the floor with yours.
I really don't feel the need to take this any further, I've made a very good point end of. To go any further would make this a pedantic quote feast which is exactly what you want.
For me you're wrong, get over it and move on. V'"
If it was wiping the floor with mine, I'm pretty sure you'd at least have something to back it up with. You don't feel the need to go further because you can't.
Just like Tomkins, the V means you've been gotten to.
Oh, and the Hull fans hate Tomkins argument is rightly getting ripped to shreds as it makes no sense! Calling Hull fans bitter for lack of success as a Wakefield fan is kinda like the pot calling the kettle...
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"If it was wiping the floor with mine, I'm pretty sure you'd at least have something to back it up with. You don't feel the need to go further because you can't.
Just like Tomkins, the V means you've been gotten to.
Oh, and the Hull fans hate Tomkins argument is rightly getting ripped to shreds as it makes no sense! Calling Hull fans bitter for lack of success as a Wakefield fan is kinda like the pot calling the kettle...'"
Its ok Vastpants has said end of. Therefore he has won end of. You cant argue against his argument end of. Its just too good end of. He isnt going to address your argument end of. Because its what you want end of.
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| Quote ="Dunbar"Well, seeing as you brought Jarrod Hayne into the equation, could you please explain what impact this 23 year old has made on the International scene?'"
Played out of position....
He has 5 tries in 10 Test matches
He scored one try, set one up and had a fair try disallowed last time he played England.
Hayne is not the best player in the NRL but he has more skill and far more talent tested at the top end of the game than Tomkins has displayed in a league that is average at best.
Super League.................................
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| Can you imagine what it would have been like if we had these kind of forums when Hanley, Edwards and Gregory were about? There would only be room for the threads started by opposition fans complaining about them!
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| Quote ="vastman"Well your continued under achievement mixed with your Phenomenal sense of superiority has left the bulk of your fans bitter and unfulfilled which saddens me. I feel you suffer the green eyed monster more than most.'"
You've posted some guff over the years but I reckon your ramblings on this thread are among your finest works.
Quality nonsense.
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| Quote ="Jonesy"Played out of position....'"
Get the excuses in early eh?
Hayne has done nothing special on the international scene and you cannot use him to make a point about Tomkins lack of impact
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| Quote ="Dunbar"Get the excuses in early eh?
Hayne has done nothing special on the international scene and you cannot use him to make a point about Tomkins lack of impact'"
Scoring a try, setting up a try and having a fair try disallowed is nothing? in his last game against England is nothing?
You are starting to make England feel like France, you may be right.
Excuses for what?
Hayne will most likely not be picked for Australia this series
There was a player that played for a small Nation in the last World Cup, he almost carried his side on his own, that side came fourth in the World, that player destroyed France almost single handed.
That same player won the NRL player of the year 2 seasons ago, he had the biggest impact of a single player for his team in recent memory winning games almost single handed to drive his team into the Grand Final.
Tomkins has done nothing at all at the top level, against St George in the WCC he was shut down, his highlight was a Headbutt and knees in the back of Morris after he had scored his Try.,
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| Quote ="Jonesy"There was a player that played for a small Nation in the last World Cup, he almost carried his side on his own, that side came fourth in the World, that player destroyed France almost single handed.
That same player won the NRL player of the year 2 seasons ago, he had the biggest impact of a single player for his team in recent memory winning games almost single handed to drive his team into the Grand Final.
Tomkins has done nothing at all at the top level, against St George in the WCC he was shut down, his highlight was a Headbutt and knees in the back of Morris after he had scored his Try.,'"
Do you think you are doing a fair comparison by using Tomkins solitary appearance in a pre-season friendly and comparing it with a field of performance that encompasses one World Cup and one season in the NRL?
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Its ok Vastpants has said end of. Therefore he has won end of. You cant argue against his argument end of. Its just too good end of. He isnt going to address your argument end of. Because its what you want end of.'"
So that's worse than your tactic of quoting people to death. You do realise you are legendary for it, but not in a good way. I've said all I need to say, never said you or anyone else had to agree. People like you and Wellsy love to pretend you are on here to debate - but you're not. Your minds are made up and you're only wish is to browbeat. Your attempts to dress it up as some pseudo intellectual exercise is utterly transparent.
Mate, you are busted.
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| Quote ="Jonesy"Scoring a try, setting up a try and having a fair try disallowed is nothing? in his last game against England is nothing?
You are starting to make England feel like France, you may be right.
Excuses for what?
Hayne will most likely not be picked for Australia this series
There was a player that played for a small Nation in the last World Cup, he almost carried his side on his own, that side came fourth in the World, that player destroyed France almost single handed.
That same player won the NRL player of the year 2 seasons ago, he had the biggest impact of a single player for his team in recent memory winning games almost single handed to drive his team into the Grand Final.
Tomkins has done nothing at all at the top level, against St George in the WCC he was shut down, his highlight was a Headbutt and knees in the back of Morris after he had scored his Try.,'"
As soon as you start using disallowed tries as an argument for international success you know you are on a losing wicket
Jarryd Hayne has scored 5 tries in 10 test matches (three of which were for Fiji) and Sam Tomkins has scored 7 tries in 8 test matches and yet you are using Jarryd Hayne as a comparator to show how Tomkins is ‘not on the international radar’ at this point in his career
So, to sum up... Tomkins is younger than Hayne, played less test matches and scored more tries. A perfect example of how Hayne proves Tomkins is not on the international radar
Do you really think that is a compelling argument?
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| Quote ="Kosh"You've posted some guff over the years but I reckon your ramblings on this thread are among your finest works.
Quality nonsense.'"
You're wrong, end of
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| Quote ="Saddened!"You don't blame him for it? He deserves the abuse he gets because of his behaviour. The abuse he gets isn't any worse than other players get. The likes of Graham will be shouted at at every ground in SL. Yet they act with class and aren't drawn into such childish nonsense as sticking two fingers up.'"
Just watching the highlights of Saints Salford – Graham was all class when he threw his toys out the pram after having a try disallowed and got sin binned for dissent (he couldn't have timed it better for you!)
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| Quote ="Dunbar"Just watching the highlights of Saints Salford – Graham was all class when he threw his toys out the pram after having a try disallowed and got sin binned for dissent (he couldn't have timed it better for you!)'"
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| Another world beating performance from young ratboy today in another big game.
As i said earlier, i bet the Aussies are cr@pping it.
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| Once the game was up today Wigan got very petulant and dirty. I don't expect the RFL will grow a pair and do something.
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| Quote ="Jonesy"... You are starting to make England feel like France, you may be right...'"
The food is nowhere near as good.
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| I see his brothercousin Hock was up to his usual thuggery today. Last chance saloon most people thought he was in, well everyone except Wigan who gave him a 4 year contract. Then he goes and does that. His season HAS to be over after that and young Sam was up to his usual tricks.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"I see his brothercousin Hock was up to his usual thuggery today. Last chance saloon most people thought he was in, well everyone except Wigan who gave him a 4 year contract. Then he goes and does that. His season HAS to be over after that and young Sam was up to his usual tricks.'"
a 4 year contract without seeing him train....
maybe they were telling the truth after all.
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"a 4 year contract without seeing him train....
maybe they were telling the truth after all.'"
Maybe the contract was signed over a pipe or two
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