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| Quote ="rollin thunder"Course not he plays for Leeds, it's that type of negative club only biase that holds the game back. Seriously can any one name a greater more successful captain.'"
There are many things holding the game back, that isn't one of them. Jesus wept
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| Quote ="garyhulsefan"It's symptomatic of the media bias against rugby league that it takes him to have to move to union to be nominated.'"
There it is! I was waiting for this!
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| I'm not sure what Sinfield has done individually this year to get nominated but I'll still vote for him purely because of my RL bias. There is no doubt how good he has been for Leeds but I feel the nomination is possibly recognition for his career rather than this year.
If Leeds don't get team of the year someone wants shooting (though they'll probably give it to Andy Mur..... Sorry team GB.
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| Quote ="South Coast RL"I'm not sure what Sinfield has done individually this year to get nominated but I'll still vote for him purely because of my RL bias. There is no doubt how good he has been for Leeds but I feel the nomination is possibly recognition for his career rather than this year.
If Leeds don't get team of the year someone wants shooting (though they'll probably give it to Andy Mur..... Sorry team GB.'"
True it's definatley a career nomination but it's not the first time they've done it. In 2009 Ryan Giggs won the award and that was swayed by his long career in the game, Phil Taylor in darts came second one year and hasn't been nominated any other year even though he won loads year upon year. AP McCoy won, he obviously won the Grand National that year but can't recal other Grand National winning jockeys ever being nominated before so obviously his career was taken into account.
And even though it's an "of the Year" award, quite frankly I don't think their's anything wrong with putting someone in based on their career in the right circumstances and I think this warrants it. Had his final season ended trophyless or with just one trophy then hard to put him in, but he captained his side to all three prizes.
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| Willzay - why would you say Johns or Lockyer were better captains than Sinfield? Just interested. Better players, sure. But Captains? I can't think of anyone who comes close for longevity and success combined.
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| Quote ="garyhulsefan"It's symptomatic of the media bias against rugby league that it takes him to have to move to union to be nominated.'"
Might be a bit of a broken record to say this but I must say I was thinking the exact same thing lol good for sinfield nonetheless but he doesn't stand a chance, Andy Murray for me all the way.
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| Quote ="garyhulsefan"It's symptomatic of the media bias against rugby league that it takes him to have to move to union to be nominated.'"
If that was the case then why didn't they include Sam Burgess 12 months ago? His move to Bath was already confirmed and he was always going to be in the England squad. Sinfield is too old to have England aspirations in RU and has played a couple of games for a 2nd tier team in the north of the country.
More likely because it was his final season, won a treble and Leeds will have to make way for the team award to Team Andy Murray.
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| Whilst I appreciate it won't happen, it surely would be funny if he ended up winning (with 500k votes from RL fans? -hmm).
The BBC having to showcase Rugby League and one of our players winning it over all the other mainstream sports would be great.
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| It could be a good night for RL as, Leeds will be right up there for team of the year and would have been nailed on winners if the GB"Team" hadn't won the Davies Cup.
Sadly, Sinfield wont win the main prize as there are too many higher profile "stars" in front of him but, excellent recognition for him and the sport.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"It could be a good night for RL as, Leeds will be right up there for team of the year and would have been nailed on winners if the GB"Team" hadn't won the Davies Cup.
Sadly, Sinfield wont win the main prize as there are too many higher profile "stars" in front of him but, excellent recognition for him and the sport.'"
Yes dead right I wish my team had had him when he first came into the game and we had won has many games has he has has captain
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"It could be a good night for RL as, Leeds will be right up there for team of the year and would have been nailed on winners if the GB"Team" hadn't won the Davies Cup..'"
Pff team ... The Davis cup is as series of individual performances.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"It could be a good night for RL as, Leeds will be right up there for team of the year and would have been nailed on winners if the GB"Team" hadn't won the Davies Cup.
Sadly, Sinfield wont win the main prize as there are too many higher profile "stars" in front of him but, excellent recognition for him and the sport.'"
Re team of the year, quite a fuss was being made of the England women's football team earlier this year. Even if Murray hadn't won the other day I think we'd have seen the women win the award.
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| Quote ="Clearwing"Re team of the year, quite a fuss was being made of the England women's football team earlier this year. Even if Murray hadn't won the other day I think we'd have seen the women win the award.'"
Looking at the early betting odds on a few sites last night and they had Leeds 2nd favourite for the team award behind Team Andy and in some cases the women well behind Leeds. Everyone had Sinfield as 5th favourite with Murray and Ennis Hill favourites and Fury and Hamilton behind.
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| The BBC have had a real push on women's sport, and more specifically the women's football team this year. After the embarrassment of leaving the team award to the public vote in 2006 (the last time the RL community rallied round and got St Helens recognised) its now picked by panel. Their agenda will be continued by the award going to the English lasses. I've nowt against them or women's sport in general, but the amount of coverage devoted by the BBC needs to be reviewed in line with other minority sports.
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| Its nice that an RL player has been recognized but imo Leeds played their best rugby when Sinfield wasn't playing.
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"......I have huge respect for Murray, but Davis cup aside he's had a pretty mediocre season by his standards.......'"
Yes, he only finished as No 2 in the world - poor show!
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| Quote ="Perry"I'll be voting for Kev Sinfield.
Wouldn't mind if Mo Farah won, but what's the betting the home counties vote for Andy Murray, a man with zero personality.'"
I,m sure thats changed a bit, when he came into the Olympic team and the current Davis Cup team he seems to have a different persona and shows more emotion when competing for Great Britain. Leeds probably are well up there for the team award more than the individual award.
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| Quote ="LifeLongHKRFan"Its nice that an RL player has been recognized but imo Leeds played their best rugby when Sinfield wasn't playing.'"
You're entitled to your opinion but that is categorically wrong.
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| Quote ="LeedsDave"You're entitled to your opinion but that is categorically wrong.'"
In your opinion.
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| Quote ="LifeLongHKRFan"Its nice that an RL player has been recognized but imo Leeds played their best rugby when Sinfield wasn't playing.'"
Don't agree with that. To start with there haven't been many times that Sinfield's not played and certainly not many big games.
In my opinion we've played our best rugby in some of the playoffs and grand finals and he's been a major part of those performances. I think you see Sinfield's influence more when it's a close game. The 2004, 2008, 2009, 2012 & 2015 Grand Finals I think he was a major reason why Leeds won those games.
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| Quote ="Him"Don't agree with that. To start with there haven't been many times that Sinfield's not played and certainly not many big games.
In my opinion we've played our best rugby in some of the playoffs and grand finals and he's been a major part of those performances. I think you see Sinfield's influence more when it's a close game. The 2004, 2008, 2009, 2012 & 2015 Grand Finals I think he was a major reason why Leeds won those games.'"
I was thinking more last season when the young number 6 (Sutcliffe I think) was playing when Sinfield was dropped.
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| It's great for the sport that Sinfield is nominated, but unless there's an uncharacteristic show of non-partisan voting from the RL community, I can't see him winning; we're far too tribal for that.
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| Quote ="garyhulsefan"It's symptomatic of the media bias against rugby league that it takes him to have to move to union to be nominated.'"
This ^
And you can bet that any narrative would reference "Kevin Sinfield, the Headingly Carnegie RU player"
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| murray hot fave to win
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fury would get my vote
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| Murray should win it for me, but I hope Sinfield does.
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