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| Quote ="wrencat1873"It's ok KK, he's never actually been to France, a country where they pick and choose their EU regulations and their H & S is certainly no more stringent than the UK.'"
s'funny france there is no ' legal requirement on companies for Health & Safety , it'a voluntary measure.
THe H&S guy at Wakey must've been a cas or Leeds fan ... his vis jacket had yellow on it ...
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| Surely this must exclude the 'Benidorm flats' hospitality stand? If not then surely there is an argument to have it re-assessed because that could be completely segregated from the rest of Belle Vue.
Also, I doubt there will be any cash turnstiles for the first few games, as how will they be able to accurately ensure they are below the 5333 figure? Will tickets be given to away fans if Wakefield can sell out the stadium with home fans? Based on their average attendance that is certainly a likelihood. What could be outcome if Wakefield fans can get on the back of the referee and earn a penalty or two to win a few games that were in the balance? Could a partisan Belle Vue keep them out of the bottom two? Certainly food for thought for the Wakefield public.
Obviously the loss of potential earnings is an absolute killer, especially with their current position and the good work their Chairman has been doing in order to balance the books.
Hopefully it can be rectified quickly.
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| Wakey season tickets were only £100 for the past couple of seasons, hence their average attendances being around 8K. However, they've doubled in price and are over £200 this season which will no doubt see the hugely discounted supporters brigade quitting the club in droves, just like they did at Bradford and Huddersfield.
5,333 capacity will be more than adequate.
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| ^ job on. Plus they had a large amount of freebies which MC has put a stop to. I think the good Friday game might be the only one of trouble getting in terms of capacity being reached but I understand they hope to have it sorted by then.
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| Quote ="Wadski"Surely this must exclude the 'Benidorm flats' hospitality stand? If not then surely there is an argument to have it re-assessed because that could be completely segregated from the rest of Belle Vue.
Also, I doubt there will be any cash turnstiles for the first few games, as how will they be able to accurately ensure they are below the 5333 figure? Will tickets be given to away fans if Wakefield can sell out the stadium with home fans? Based on their average attendance that is certainly a likelihood. What could be outcome if Wakefield fans can get on the back of the referee and earn a penalty or two to win a few games that were in the balance? Could a partisan Belle Vue keep them out of the bottom two? Certainly food for thought for the Wakefield public.
Obviously the loss of potential earnings is an absolute killer, especially with their current position and the good work their Chairman has been doing in order to balance the books.
Hopefully it can be rectified quickly.'"
Think there's a percentage of available tickets specified in operational rules that have to be made available to oppsition club.
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yes, why, because its my club
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"=#FF0000=#BFFF00I have long been arguing that Belle Vue was a dangerous place, ever since I tried to use the men's "toilets" there.
France would never tolerate such an awful place. If it had been located in France, its owners/administrators would have been prosecuted long ago for maintaining such a shameful facility. Belle Vue is a Dickensian blight on the British ambition to be considered a modern nation.'" get real
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| Quote ="Towns88"^ job on. Plus they had a large amount of freebies which MC has put a stop to. I think the good Friday game might be the only one of trouble getting in terms of capacity being reached but I understand they hope to have it sorted by then.'"
Really? I think the Bradford and Saints game (Wakey's opening games) will be pushing capacity. They've sold 2k ST.
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| WTW need to get the capacity up to about 8k for the Tigers game over easter. Games prior to that won't be affected IMO.
I'm interested to know what exactly needs the repair work. The main article seems a bit vague. If it's the terracing - how much damage has been caused in the space of 5 months ? Was the new roof just a temporary measure ? Are the sanctions anything to do with the ill-fated Widnes game and lack of security ? Crush barriers could be the problem ?
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| Strange one as nothing 'unsafe' really springs to mind when I think of Belle Vue, where as Odsal is slowly crumbling. I guess that's why I'm not a health and safety inspector!
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| Quote ="Ganson's Optician"Strange one as nothing 'unsafe' really springs to mind when I think of Belle Vue, where as Odsal is slowly crumbling. I guess that's why I'm not a health and safety inspector!'"
The crumbling at Odsal is iconic.
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| Quote ="William Eve"The crumbling at Odsal is iconic.'"
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| Leigh's 'Hilton Park' had a reduced capacity 'for a while' due to a lack of crash barriers, but in reality NO crash barriers would have ever been needed, even when we played Wigan, Saints. Guess safety folk have to be careful, but this kinda stuff, is just ammunition for people who like to take the **** out of a certain club, rather than caring if they can sort their problem out or not.
And secondly, Wakey fan Wildthing is a BIG supporter of my Leigh club, so I for one, hope they get things sorted out.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"
I'm interested to know what exactly needs the repair work. '"
According to Michael Carter it is something to do with the footings on all the barriers
"@WTWChairman 20:11 30/01/2014 it's something along the lines of strengthening the areas the barriers are fixed to. It's not the barriers themselves per se"
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| Quote ="financialtimes"According to Michael Carter it is something to do with the footings on all the barriers
"@WTWChairman 20:11 30/01/2014 it's something along the lines of strengthening the areas the barriers are fixed to. It's not the barriers themselves per se"
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| on the plus side we should see some sell outs in superleague this season
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| Quote ="snowie"sounds like naff all'"
Depends. Leeds had problems with the barriers they installed in the south stand in 2000 IIRC. It wasn't the barriers themselves but how they were installed into the concrete terracing. By 2008 it caused a reduction in capacity even with £250k of work done. Then 4 years later it cost another £500k to put the problem right. Apparently the way they were installed weakened the strength of the stand.
I'm by no means a builder or construction expert so no idea if that's the case here, but just highlighting how the barriers can cause problems!
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| Merge with Cas or get out of the kitchen! Useless amateur run club.
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| do you norvunners still wear hobnail boots? Maybe that's the problem......
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| I Remember going to Belle vue last year and first thing i noticed is how the terracing seemed to be sinking, maybe that's a part of the problem.? apart from putting a roof over a couple of old terresces I can't remember Wakefield ever plowing money into their stadium, always preferring to spend on the first team instead. That's I think where your club got itself into a big mess.
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| Quote ="Worzel"Merge with Cas or get out of the kitchen! Useless amateur run club.'"
Says another new Salford fan.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Says another new Salford fan.
Always remember where you came from or you may not find your way home
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I don't agree with all this pee taking, at the end of the day it's the fans that get hurt the worst if anything happens to their club, I just think WHEN you get this mess sorted your BOD have really got to start ticking the correct boxes when it come to running an RL club, it's ok having a decent team on the field every other year but the team isn't everything, the facilities are just as important, Wakefield fans deserve to watch the greatest game in the world from good facilities just as much as any other fans do, your new BOD need to keep ontology of everything from now on and try keep you in the papers for the right reasons, it's just seems like there's something every other year with Wakefield it's got to stop for the sake of the wakey fans and RL in general.
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| Quote ="Mike87"I don't agree with all this p1ss taking, at the end of the day it's the fans that get hurt the worst if anything happens to their club, I just think WHEN you get this mess sorted your BOD have really got to start ticking the correct boxes when it come to running an RL club, it's ok having a decent team on the field every other year but the team isn't everything, the facilities are just as important, Wakefield fans deserve to watch the greatest game in the world from good facilities just as much as any other fans do, your new BOD need to keep ontology of everything from now on and try keep you in the papers for the right reasons, it's just seems like there's something every other year with Wakefield it's got to stop for the sake of the wakey fans and RL in general.'"
There's a brand new stadium lurking in the background, but its delivery is based on a s106 agreement; before construction starts, the developer needs to build out something like 60,000m2 of warehousing/distribution facilities. The first element is sold, but that leaves a way to go. Best estimates are that works will start in 2015.
In the meantime, thanks to the manoeuvrings of a previous Chairman, BV is actually owned by the Bank of Ireland; that may explain the reluctance of the new BoD to over-invest in a facility that will a) become superfluous to requirements b) isn't owned by the club and c) now operates in a comp where minimum standards have fallen by the wayside.
It's just a shame that BV wasn't considered iconic enough to be saved from evil property developers by the governing body; although I doubt they'd be naïve enough to do that for one club but not for another.
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| Quote ="Worzel"Merge with Cas or get out of the kitchen! Useless amateur run club.'"
From one of Salfords 63 'fans'
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