Incidentally looks like Briers is coming to Saints after all. Matt Shaw and John Davidson now reporting. I was told this on the 9th June on a night out and laughed at the lad who told me. Looks like he was spot on.

And Saints are appealing the appeal for Mbye. Must think we have a real chance.

Saints appealing the appeal again

Hurrell, Walmsley and Makinson are massive metre makers against us in the past. The first 2 are good for an offload too.

Other than Paasi we seem to handle the others okay.

If however is playing hooker holds up okay for us, it should be a Wigan win.

Assistant coach I believe.

Gotta start somewhere.

Quote ="Stu M"Fair points however as much as Hurrell is a turnstile in defence, he offers an attacking threat close to the line as evidenced by his try on Good Friday Also yes you are right in that Whitley and Wingfield would not be in a first choice 17 but they would be first choice replacements. So instead of those we are looking at Royle and Davies- a huge drop off There is no doubt Wigan have the stronger squad and I know you are missing a few too, I just feel that our absentees will impact us much more.'" Funny things happen in rugby league, remember this? https://amp.theguardian.com/sport/2003/ ... e.sthelens

Quote ="Stu M"Fair points however as much as Hurrell is a turnstile in defence, he offers an attacking threat close to the line as evidenced by his try on Good Friday Also yes you are right in that Whitley and Wingfield would not be in a first choice 17 but they would be first choice replacements. So instead of those we are looking at Royle and Davies- a huge drop off There is no doubt Wigan have the stronger squad and I know you are missing a few too, I just feel that our absentees will impact us much more.'" Funny things happen in rugby league, remember this? https://amp.theguardian.com/sport/2003/ ... e.sthelens

Embarrassing. I'm sure they have form with this.

Failed appeal again, but no extra game

Failed appeal again, but no extra game

Failed appeal again, but no extra game

Best of five

12 players set to leave Saints, any worth keeping? https://www.seriousaboutrl.com/12-playe ... and-94521/

12 players set to leave Saints, any worth keeping? https://www.seriousaboutrl.com/12-playe ... and-94521/

Quote ="Zig"12 players set to leave Saints, any worth keeping? https://www.seriousaboutrl.com/12-playe ... and-94521/'" Ben Davies is an interesting one. I’ve always liked him. Think he could do a job in SL for a lot of clubs. I’m not saying we should be all over him but I think their is potentially a very good player in there.

Quote ="Zig"12 players set to leave Saints, any worth keeping? https://www.seriousaboutrl.com/12-playe ... and-94521/'" Ben Davies is an interesting one. I’ve always liked him. Think he could do a job in SL for a lot of clubs. I’m not saying we should be all over him but I think their is potentially a very good player in there.

Genuinely not sure what games you have been watching him in or how many but he is the epitome of bog standard. Him and Royle are just not Saints standard.

I think the truth around Davies is somewhere in between the two posts above. He was far more impressive under Woolf than he has been recently, whether that's through tactics or lack of opportunity I'm not sure. I don't see where he ever starts regularly for an ambitious club but a good reserve to have with a bit of utility. I think he could get a bigger contract and a starting gig in lower SL but wouldn't be surprised if he stayed in a similar role he has now.

As for the rest, it's very quiet on the recruitment and retention. With quota spots potentially to play with it will be interesting to see what develops.

I believe Mata'uita is off which would be a real shame, he's been immense. Hurrell I'd replace, there were some rumours about Opacic coming in a couple of weeks ago and that seems to make sense, doesn't quite carry the physical threat but pretty skilful and much better defensively.

I'd lean towards keeping Blake although he's been very hot and cold. I think that's a theme with most Antipodean signings in their first year though, and would expect some improvement. Providing he wants to stay of course.

Burns showed up well on debut and is certainly worth keeping. The rest I can take or leave depending on what cap they take up, who is coming through the academy to the first team.

Opacic looks solid and not much more whenever I watch him. I can't lie, I hope he signs for Saints over Hurrell. He might not be the best defensively Hurrell but he always causes you problems and in a side that is very good overall defensively (when at it's best), somebody like Hurrell can come up with a moment that can be the difference in tight games. If Opacic dropped in to this Saints side currently, he'd make little to no difference in attack.

Saints are interested in Drinkwater (the one at Warrington).

A quick question to our Saints friends, is Paasi carrying a lot more timber than last season?

When he first came back a few weeks ago he looked relatively lean and in good shape however when he came back after the international break he looked quite out of shape.

It looked like he spent the week off continually eating. The players having time off has been a bug bear of mine and I have argued with other Saints fans about this. They had the CC SF weekend off and obviously the Final and the players were given time off, most of which went on holiday. The same thing happened with the international weekend and again most went away. They then came back and produced the horror show against Cas.

By contrast Wigan have played every week including the WCC and seem to be getting better every week. How many holidays do they need?

We aren't.

Ok, who are you interested in?

Several wingers and centres and then a forward should Matautia leave, which is looking increasingly likely. I've been given names but I wont be plastering them on here.

The emergence of Robertson, Whitby and Roberts means we are highly unlikely to sign anyone to play in the halves. Those 3 should thrive under our new incoming attack coach.......

Bad news YG, it's not Briers, it's Ian Watson

If they are only rumours then why not? Is the current attacking coach on his way out?