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| Errrors and penalties were shocking, luckily Wakefield made plenty too.
George Burgess - marquee player was hidden on the bench then did about 20 mins and was okay.
Jackson Hasting - marquee player goes missing when the going gets tough, his second half today was nearly as bad as his second half against Salford.
Need our “big names” to step up imo
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Our discipline is horrendous. We gave a penalty away in possession yet again and lost a try on the back of it. David Fafita did what David Fafita does against us and acts like a footballer constantly claiming foul play and both us and Thaler fell for it. I love Smithies but he really needs to get his head back in to just running hard and tackling hard and leave the running niggly battles to one side.
On the plus side Hardaker was excellent, I thought Bibby had his best game in a Wigan shirt and Liam Byrne and Havard carried that group of props. I again paid close attention o George Burgess and it’s like watching a junior out his depth. His first job to work on is getting back in the defensive line. It’s Tautai esq watching him struggle and him being third man in and then not getting back in the line left Isa totally isolated for the Wood try (still a very poor effort though). I thought Byrne was absolutely massive for us. He’s growing in confidence and physically and bit by bit he’s making a spot in the 17 his own.'"
George Burgess one of our biggest mistakes for years absolutely waste of cap space
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| Few thoughts, firstly lowest quality game of the restart so far.
Both teams making some bad errors and poor decisions.
The main concern for me was out attack which was very flat. At time’s our strike runners were ahead of the ball carrier who was looking to find them.
Thought Zak had a great game but I’d still rather he play centre with French at 1 as teams can really go at French in the line on the wing.
Manfreddi worked hard but for me the centre position isn’t for him.
Was impressed with Clarke when he came on, looked like he wanted to make an impact and did. Burgess didn’t really put his hand up and that is a worry.
End of sets was poor, won’t have helped losing TL but Smith or Hastings needed to be more dominant.
I thought Powell was great, huge in D at critical times, I would still like to see Amir Bourouh on the bench. The new system cries out for an explosive 9 and that isn’t Powell.
Positives again were the youngsters and the 2 points.
Harvard in particular I thought was great.
Tactics....not sure they worked today.
Back to the drawing board Mr Lam.
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| I guess a win is a win, but plenty to work on.
Isa - absolutely terrible defence for the 1st Wakey try and then conceded the pen + an extra 10 in the build up for their 2nd. Also offered nothing in attack again. Imagine if Greenwood would have performed like that.
Marshall - same story as always i.e lively in attack, but a liability with his inability to trust his inside man in defence. Two really soft tries that a more complete winger would have kept out.
Last play options weren't the best with kicks going to the man instead of hitting the floor.
Thought Havard, Byrne and Zak had great games tho.
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| Quote ="NSW"Errrors and penalties were shocking, luckily Wakefield made plenty too.
George Burgess - marquee player was hidden on the bench then did about 20 mins and was okay.
Jackson Hasting - marquee player goes missing when the going gets tough, his second half today was nearly as bad as his second half against Salford.
Need our “big names” to step up imo'"
I thought Hastings at Salford was because of his love affair with them? (Not directed soley at you, btw. Plenty said it on here after we lost and criticised him for it)
Our pack quite simply isn't good enough and sides will always get a spell in the game when they dominate. At that point Hastings or any other half will look poor.
Clark and Burgess offered next to frig all off the bench when they should be coming on and looking to dominate.
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| Quote ="Egg Chasing"I thought Hastings at Salford was because of his love affair with them? (Not directed soley at you, btw. Plenty said it on here after we lost and criticised him for it)
Our pack quite simply isn't good enough and sides will always get a spell in the game when they dominate. At that point Hastings or any other half will look poor.
Clark and Burgess offered next to frig all off the bench when they should be coming on and looking to dominate.'"
I thought it was, but exactly the same today, we were crying out for some direction.
Agree on Clark and Burgess, Havard and Bryne showing them up massively.
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| Quote ="Egg Chasing"I thought Hastings at Salford was because of his love affair with them? (Not directed soley at you, btw. Plenty said it on here after we lost and criticised him for it)
Our pack quite simply isn't good enough and sides will always get a spell in the game when they dominate. At that point Hastings or any other half will look poor.
Clark and Burgess offered next to frig all off the bench when they should be coming on and looking to dominate.'"
Can’t agree about Clark. Though he came on and was aggressive and looking for work.
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| Quote ="Cbr1000rr"Lets not gloss over the fact that 2nd half we where sh*te and got lucky that, the bibby try was given as it never was a try'"
The last Wakefield try evens up with that. The most blatant knock on a couple of plays back and Thaler looking the other way, deary me.
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| Same level of performance as the HKR/Salford games, pretty poor to say the least.
Not sure why we've gone backwards since Hudds away.
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| Quote ="MattyB"The last Wakefield try evens up with that. The most blatant knock on a couple of plays back and Thaler looking the other way, deary me.'"
I thought Thaler was terrible. Managed to slow down a game that has a million rules aimed at speeding it up.
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| Quote ="Egg Chasing"I thought Thaler was terrible. Managed to slow down a game that has a million rules aimed at speeding it up.'"
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| Quote ="NSW"I thought it was, but exactly the same today, we were crying out for some direction.'"
He was excellent 1st half at Salford and same again today. Also the same today though was that we made plenty yards first half and then not as many second half.
Not sure if it's a fitness thing or too many kids in key positions, but I fear that so far we will be the same as last season and will lose all of the big games.
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| Quote ="apollosghost"Same level of performance as the HKR/Salford games, pretty poor to say the least.
Not sure why we've gone backwards since Hudds away.'"
The worry for me is Lam seems made up with these wins (KR and Today).
Imagine Wanes reaction if we served up that today under him.
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| Quote ="NSW"The worry for me is Lam seems made up with these wins (KR and Today).
Imagine Wanes reaction if we served up that today under him.'"
I was amazed by his reaction at full time. I hope it was just a show for the cameras and in the dressing rooms some harsh words were said because it wasn’t good enough by a long way.
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| Quote ="NSW"The worry for me is Lam seems made up with these wins (KR and Today).
Imagine Wanes reaction if we served up that today under him.'"
Let's not beat around the bush - we had plenty of these kind of results served up under Wane. He instead used to regurgitate the same "tough week in training" line, but week to week we saw very little change until it came to the playoffs.
We've not had a coach who demanded weekly excellence since Madge.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"I was amazed by his reaction at full time. I hope it was just a show for the cameras and in the dressing rooms some harsh words were said because it wasn’t good enough by a long way.'"
I was amazed as well, it does nothing for my confidence in him. It was a below par performance for the most part with glimpses of a decent side.
I’ll have it’s the first game back after a few months out but you look at the way Saints started last week and now they’re taking apart this Leeds side, who themselves are bang average, and I question whether that’s even a viable excuse.
Next week v Leeds will show what we really are IMO.
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| Quote ="jonh"Few thoughts, firstly lowest quality game of the restart so far.
Both teams making some bad errors and poor decisions.
The main concern for me was out attack which was very flat. At time’s our strike runners were ahead of the ball carrier who was looking to find them.
Thought Zak had a great game but I’d still rather he play centre with French at 1 as teams can really go at French in the line on the wing.
Manfreddi worked hard but for me the centre position isn’t for him.
Was impressed with Clarke when he came on, looked like he wanted to make an impact and did. Burgess didn’t really put his hand up and that is a worry.
End of sets was poor, won’t have helped losing TL but Smith or Hastings needed to be more dominant.
I thought Powell was great, huge in D at critical times, I would still like to see Amir Bourouh on the bench. The new system cries out for an explosive 9 and that isn’t Powell.
Positives again were the youngsters and the 2 points.
Harvard in particular I thought was great.
Tactics....not sure they worked today.
Back to the drawing board Mr Lam.'"
Think you’ve hit the nail on the head with that assessment. It’s the fact Lam either doesn’t see it or refuses to accept it which is worrying me. Looking at how Saints are playing now, if we’d have played them today we’d be talking 40+.
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| First game back, missing Gildart, Lockers, Flower and Partington, plus Leuluai for a lot of the game. I'll take any kind of win. Agreed Saints look a different class to everyone else though, as they did last year.
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| Typical Wigan. Get ourselves into a winning lead 22-6 with 60 minutes gone & then our game management just goes out the window. How many times have we seen it? Under Wane too I might add.
Just happy to get the 2 points
Tom Johnstone's try was special. Brilliant player
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| Quote ="100% Warrior"I was amazed as well, it does nothing for my confidence in him. It was a below par performance for the most part with glimpses of a decent side.
I’ll have it’s the first game back after a few months out but you look at the way Saints started last week and now they’re taking apart this Leeds side, who themselves are bang average, and I question whether that’s even a viable excuse.
Next week v Leeds will show what we really are IMO.'"
Well if we don't murder this Leeds side then it's time to wrap up.
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| Quote ="Grimmy"First game back, missing Gildart, Lockers, Flower and Partington, plus Leuluai for a lot of the game. I'll take any kind of win. Agreed Saints look a different class to everyone else though, as they did last year.'"
They’ve struck gold with the break. The players have had time to get over the loss of Holbrook, the international tour and the WCC. It’s been a reset for them clearly and they’ll be tough to stop. I don’t think we’ve got the coach to challenge them tbh.
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| 48-0!
Yes, we need to beat Leeds convincingly.
Plenty of room for improvement, but two points is two points.
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| Quote ="moto748"48-0!
Yes, we need to beat Leeds convincingly.
Plenty of room for improvement, but two points is two points.'"
Yes, lots of room for improvement.
I wish we had Watson as coach. It’s amazing what he repeatedly does at Salford, despite losing his best players every year.
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| Quote ="sergeant pepper"Let's not beat around the bush - we had plenty of these kind of results served up under Wane. He instead used to regurgitate the same "tough week in training" line, but week to week we saw very little change until it came to the playoffs.
We've not had a coach who demanded weekly excellence since Madge.'"
Yep and that is what infuriated me at the time.
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| Quote ="Salty"Yes, lots of room for improvement.
I wish we had Watson as coach. It’s amazing what he repeatedly does at Salford, despite losing his best players every year.'"
Was thinking the same watching there game, gets the most out of players mostly unwanted by other clubs. What would he do with a squad with more resources.
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