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| Its time to get rid of the current disciplinary panel who are obviously too lenient and replace them with some of the posters on this forum who seem to have more idea about the game than the people who are actually playing it.
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| Just watched the tackle. Rinaldi didn't duck into it at all - his head stayed at exactly the same level the whole time he went towards Moa. Moa dipped his shoulder into his face. Absolutely nothing to do with what Rinaldi did or didn't do, and deserving of a red card and worthy of a ban. If a Leeds player does the same I would hope they'd get exactly the same punishment.
I have absolutely no idea why some people can't differentiate that sort of effort from a legitimate shoulder charge. It does also show that using the shoulder is a high-risk way to tackle. It can look spectacular when it comes off, but can easily lead to injury - to either player.
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| See hits like that all the time in the nrl. only got sent off due to the player getting knocked out imo.
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| It was a bad tackle, but there seemed to be no malice intended, so 1 match ban and fine feel right to me.
Big hits using the shoulder are great for the fans to watch (but not for the ball carrier!), but tacklers need to learn/remember to bend their backs a little when going into the tackle to make sure it's a legitimate challenge.
Makali Aizue is a beast and regularly comes up with these big hits using the shoulder, but I can't remember him being penalised (and certainly not carded) for any of them. Whether they should really be allowed in the game is another matter....
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| Quote ="HXSparky"Big hits using the shoulder are great for the fans to watch (but not for the ball carrier!), but tacklers need to learn/remember to bend their backs a little when going into the tackle to make sure it's a legitimate challenge.'"
Exactly that - if a player insists on using this extremely high risk 'tackle' technique, he has a responsibility to go lower, reducing the risk of hitting the head; if he doesn't do that, he accepts the possibility of seeing red, and rightly so.
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"icon_lol.gif
Oh dear, riots in Hull.'"
No, we don't have them here, old chap. Not like that London.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Quote ="Dave Lister"icon_lol.gif
Oh dear, riots in Hull.'"
No, we don't have them here, old chap. Not like that London.'"
True, people in Hull are too busy nicking cars to start a riot.
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"No embarrassment here, I read the rfl site which stated "no charge" and I interpreted that as he had no case to answer. Not an unreasonable assumption, but as this is the rfl I perhaps should have known better.
Moa gets a one game ban. His previous good record probably went in his favour. If the rfl and the referees are consistent I would expect a number of forward who employ that style of tackle (Morley, Bailey, carvel, et al) to be sitting out games a number of time this season, but, this is the rfl, I should know better
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Moa does it all the time too. His bad luck was that he didn't quite get it right this time. He also put in a guilty plea.
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| Quote Just watched the tackle. Rinaldi didn't duck into it at all - his head stayed at exactly the same level the whole time he went towards Moa. Moa dipped his shoulder into his face. Absolutely nothing to do with what Rinaldi did or didn't do, and deserving of a red card and worthy of a ban. If a Leeds player does the same I would hope they'd get exactly the same punishment.
I have absolutely no idea why some people can't differentiate that sort of effort from a legitimate shoulder charge. It does also show that using the shoulder is a high-risk way to tackle. It can look spectacular when it comes off, but can easily lead to injury - to either player.'"
Brisbane-You must understand that people who live in pit think it’s hard to knock people out legally or illegally and should be celebrated. (Moa will have a pair of Nike trainers hanging from the overhead electric cables near his patch) That’s why there is uproar at his sending of. Moa will now be the hero not the fat lazy villain that everyone else sees. Thickets don’t care if it puts the team under pressure, loses games or puts a mother of from taking ther kids to play the game as long as a Frenchman is on a stretcher. We know that their ugly fat molls of wives when not watching Jezza Kyle on the box will don there Ron Hills pants and T shirts light a fag and take there kids to the local RL club
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"True, people in Hull are too busy nicking cars to start a riot.'"
As opposed to robbing Comet, Sports Direct, JD, etc. like in London
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| Quote ="Bobbin' Along"Fair comment. His previous good record probably has resulted in him getting a lighter punishment than the tackle merited.'"
It was the guilty plea that got him the shorter ban. According to a local source the club were aware ahead of time that he would be found guilty regardless of what defence he might put forward so they went for damage limitation. I'd personally have preferred that they'd stuck to their guns but it's easier to stand on principle when you don't have responsibility for the consequences.
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| Quote ="east stander"Brisbane-You must understand that people who live in pit think it’s hard to knock people out legally or illegally and should be celebrated. (Moa will have a pair of Nike trainers hanging from the overhead electric cables near his patch) That’s why there is uproar at his sending of. Moa will now be the hero not the fat lazy villain that everyone else sees. Thickets don’t care if it puts the team under pressure, loses games or puts a mother of from taking ther kids to play the game as long as a Frenchman is on a stretcher. We know that their ugly fat molls of wives when not watching Jezza Kyle on the box will don there Ron Hills pants and T shirts light a fag and take there kids to the local RL club'"
WTF?
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"True, people in Hull are too busy nicking cars to start a riot.'"
where as people in london do both live on the worlds news channels.
Still don't agree with the ban would be interesting to hear the communications between the V.R. and the other officials considering none of the on field officials initially even indicated it was penalty.
Time to move on and let the forum get back to more pressing matters like spotting a Stobart lorry or complaining about Sky
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| Quote ="clubfoot fc"Time to move on and let the forum get back to more pressing matters like spotting a Stobart lorry or complaining about Sky'"
Jon Wilkin on the M62 at Halifax, yesterday lunchtime.
Bloody Sky - my Anytime+ is still not working properly.
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| Very good shoulder charge IMO, Sonny Bill Williams made his career out of hits very similar to this.
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"Quote ="Dave Lister"True, people in Hull are too busy nicking cars to start a riot.'"
As opposed to robbing Comet, Sports Direct, JD, etc. like in London
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All awful shops that deserve to close down.
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| Quote ="Rooster Booster"And Eddy Pettybourne pleads guilty and is free to play.
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But clocks up 67 points, a system we don't have.
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"True, people in Hull are too busy nicking cars to start a riot.'"
Yeah doesn't leave us much time to stab each other to death.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Quote ="Bobbin' Along"Fair comment. His previous good record probably has resulted in him getting a lighter punishment than the tackle merited.'"
It was the guilty plea that got him the shorter ban. According to a local source the club were aware ahead of time that he would be found guilty regardless of what defence he might put forward so they went for damage limitation. I'd personally have preferred that they'd stuck to their guns but it's easier to stand on principle when you don't have responsibility for the consequences.'"
So Hull FC have inside info. from the RFL or panel on proceedings before they happen or did Mystic Meg tell them?
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| Quote ="east stander"Brisbane-You must understand that people who live in pit think it’s hard to knock people out legally or illegally and should be celebrated. (Moa will have a pair of Nike trainers hanging from the overhead electric cables near his patch) That’s why there is uproar at his sending of. Moa will now be the hero not the fat lazy villain that everyone else sees. Thickets don’t care if it puts the team under pressure, loses games or puts a mother of from taking ther kids to play the game as long as a Frenchman is on a stretcher. We know that their ugly fat molls of wives when not watching Jezza Kyle on the box will don there Ron Hills pants and T shirts light a fag and take there kids to the local RL club'"
Can you try again, but in English please.
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| Quote ="BroncOnIon"But clocks up 67 points, a system we don't have.'"
Yeah, that'll learn him.
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| Quote ="east stander"Brisbane-You must understand that people who live in pit think it’s hard to knock people out legally or illegally and should be celebrated. (Moa will have a pair of Nike trainers hanging from the overhead electric cables near his patch) That’s why there is uproar at his sending of. Moa will now be the hero not the fat lazy villain that everyone else sees. Thickets don’t care if it puts the team under pressure, loses games or puts a mother of from taking ther kids to play the game as long as a Frenchman is on a stretcher. We know that their ugly fat molls of wives when not watching Jezza Kyle on the box will don there Ron Hills pants and T shirts light a fag and take there kids to the local RL club'"
Thanks for your input. Now get back under the stone you just crawled from.
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| Quote ="Rooster Booster"Yeah, that'll learn him.'"
I don't know how the NRL system works. How many points does he need for a one-match ban?
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| Quote Very good shoulder charge IMO, Sonny Bill Williams made his career out of hits very similar to this'"
and what a pr1ck he turned out to be
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