No he never. He tweeted them at 1pm this afternoon and was in attendance at Widnes tonight to auction more prizes off

Don't forget it's always stupid o'clock in Gutter's world........

What is MK's agenda? I thought he was off to build a brand new stadium in Liverpool and put a rugby league team in it, now he seems to be every chemic's new bezzie mate.
Fair play if he's helping out in crisis, but I wouldn't be surprised to find that there's more to this than meets the eye.

He’s just helping out. He had talks with the club which fell through but still likes Widnes. Said last night at the fund raiser he’s still going ahead with the Liverpool idea but “never say never” about getting involved at Widnes.

I think this Liverpool idea is going to be very very difficult to achieve, especially if a new stadium is part and parcel of the plan. Sounds like another of his ideas that doesn't get off the ground, and there must be a reason as to why his bids have failed at Bradford and recently at Widnes.

To be honest, I don’t think he was expecting the large scale of debt he found to be at Widnes.

With the experience of trying to buy Bradford (albeit in the wife's name) "how much is the debt" would have been the first question to ask. Maybe you're spot on as it's plausible that when he new he backed out without making a bid. Bottom line is, it's debt that finally tips RL clubs into administration in the first place, so it's difficult to know for sure.

It was him and one of our regular sponsors, Luke Backhouse (the guy he’s creating Liverpool with). They both seemed very keen but when they went in for talks before administration it opened up a can of worms to the debt and problems Widnes have. The old regime I believe didn’t treat these two very well at all.

If they hadn’t had held talks in January, I believe firmly that both would be in the driving seat to steer us out of administration. However in the meantime, the whole Liverpool venture has started to materialise.

If we’re liquidated this week, I wouldn’t be surprised if both started a new Widnes club which entered league 1 next season.

For sure, he will be weighing up the cost of buying Widnes, with it's associated debts vs starting afresh.
It will depend just how much of the debt has to be cleared to allow him to take the reins and if the deal doesn't look attractive enough, he will walk away and spend his brass elsewhere.

Having said that, he is seriously loaded and you would expect that trying to work with him could be helpful, depending on whether he's wanting to save Widnes or just get a way back into the game. Time will tell.

Koucash is an attention seeker he turns up at every club that’s in trouble pretending to be there saviour and ends up doing nothing the Liverpool club will soon be forgotten as quick as his Cumbrian super club he was setting up was and to be honest if your a multi millionaire any debt a RL club has isn’t that big in the grand scheme of things

Koukash is good at spending money except when it comes to paying bills which is why Salford were in the mire. The guy should stick to hose racing.

I don't know why everyone is so down on cool and calm kooky Koukash. He is spending Koukash cash, but the recipients don't appreciate him.

Salford Red Devils, with its feeble fan base, and its poorly located and poorly transport serviced stadium, was just not worthy of his generosity.

He should have bought Bradford instead

His interest in Bradford didn't appear extend to paying off debt, nor in a credible funding of a new start up club. He had the chance to buy Bradford but didn't (not withstanding the odd rumour of him funding us secretly which is so contrary to his style I find hard to believe). So if you assume that Bradford and Widnes are both (broadly speaking) equivalent attractive propositions, then you'd assume that he isn't coming to save Widnes, unless it's to relocate.

Still banging that drum eh, just what the hell is your problem with the supporters who turn up to Salford games.

I don't have a problem with the fans who turn up to Salford games. My use of the turn "feeble" does not refer to the character of the fans who turn up. It refers to their numbers.

I do have a problem with the concept of a professional rugby league club that has so few fans who turn up to games.

I have also made clear --- and you ignore this --- that I regard London Broncos as a flawed club because of its small fan base. However this is compensated for by the fact that London Broncos' presence in Super League, even with a very small fan base, unlike Salford's presence, serves other very important purposes for the growth of the game.

He has got a point. Just, you know, a very small one.

Salford has put a competive team together (admittedly in the past I've had my issues with them) and the fanbase doesn't really represent how good the team is.

That stated, there were quite a few Salford fans at our place last Saturday and seemed to enjoy themselves at our expense (yet again). Good on 'em.

Anyway, fingers crossed for Widnes. As for moving to Liverpool, I'm pretty sure that wouldn't be seen as saving the club to most true Widnes supporters.

Don't know why an Ocker has any interest in this forum TBH other than the fact Barry Mckenzie is a Troll, but lets face it without our Bazza this forum would be dead.

So Bazza just carry on with your inane ramblings.

It's dead because trolls like Bartholomew McKenzie have ruined the site. Whole sets of fans have taken their individual forums elsewhere through incessant trolling and the VT has also suffered. People just cannot be ar$ed listening to thread after thread of utter garbage being spewed and I don't blame them.

I find it incredibly sad that some people find great delight in ruining other people's enjoyment and healthy debate but unfortunately that's the internet for you. If it's not on here it's Twitter, if it's not Twitter it's Facebook etc etc.

I packed in Twitter and Facebook when I gave up my business, best thing I did, after having a break away from this website for a while i only come back to see how are stadium issues was going but I'm fast losing it with petulance posting on here now
No idea what enjoyment some get on winding others up

Good luck to the new board of Widnes.

Have they been saved?

It appears so, but there's some players that are moving on.

We’re saved but not the owners we wanted really. Very grateful we still have a club but the consortium who have purchased the club (8of them) fell short of the mark needed and have already handed out redundancies. Players will be next on their way out. Depending on how bad the exodus is going to be, time will tell.

If we’re left with a squad that struggles to make up the -8 points, we may as well have started a fresh in league 1 next season.

The owner of bury F.C. wanted to buy our stadium off the council, clear debts and put money in but the council wouldn’t sell the stadium so that deal fell through.

Glad there's a future Pat, and it's better than liquidation in my view. Looks like you're down the Bradford route of points deduction, relegation and rebuild. By the way, is there any wriggle room to get the deduction reduced? Main thing is that Widnes can look to taking the field again, and hopefully, the town will get behind them no matter what's on the scoreboard.