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| Quote ="Wildthing"40% increase at Wakey, and a good win. We will take that. Thanks Billy!'"
Yes indeed, and well done to Wakey. A higher attendance for your home game against London today than Huddersfield managed at home to Leeds, and they had a cheap ticket offer on too.
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| Quote ="William Eve"A number of loyal-to-the-game, positive-news-only journos got very excited by that attendance yesterday, which is in complete contrast to their otherwise complete lack of interest in SL attendances this season.
Most sources are still claiming the attendance was 12,000 (fudge-fudge) [url=http://www.therfl.co.uk/matchday/results/report?8888including the RFL[/url
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And why wouldn't the journalists be excited by a crowd of almost 15,000 in a city in France that hopes to secure a Super League club ? It's called err supporting the game.
And does 14,858 not sound a more correct figure to you than 12,000 (which was in fact the rounded number of ticket sales announced by the Dragons before the game)
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| Quote ="JonB95"And why wouldn't the journalists be excited by a crowd of almost 15,000 in a city in France that hopes to secure a Super League club ? It's called err supporting the game.'"
Correct, they should be. Shouldn't they also be interested in reporting on attendances which are extremely worrying for the game?
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A non-rounded attendance of 14,898 seems about as correct as a non-rounded attendance of 17,873 in my opinion.
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| Do you have the stats for which games had ticket offers last season? Bit pointless bringing them up on a comparison thread if you don't.
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| poor crowd at Huddersfield today, but I guess fans are just bored by seeing us trounce leeds now
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| Quote ="meast"poor crowd at Huddersfield today, but I guess fans are just bored by seeing us trounce leeds now
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You can make fun, and I can see why you would, but seriously...Hudds have team that are performing at he top of the game, playing a superbly attractive brand of rugby...why the Hell won't people in Hudds follow them??
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| Quote ="Talent Spotter"Do you have the stats for which games had ticket offers last season? Bit pointless bringing them up on a comparison thread if you don't.'"
The RFL didn't mention any offers of cheap tickets last season when they were bigging-up comparative SL attendances in their press releases.
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| Quote ="meast"poor crowd at Huddersfield today, but I guess fans are just bored by seeing us trounce leeds now
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Unfortunately for Huddersfield, their excellent form and SL ladder position is not reflected in their overall home attendances this season which are currently 21.65% down compared to last season for the same fixtures.
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| Quote ="William Eve"The RFL didn't mention any offers of cheap tickets last season when they were bigging-up comparative SL attendances in their press releases.'"
Well, you need to decide how you want to measure success...attendance or receipts, as in the olden days.
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| Quote ="William Eve"Correct, they should be. Shouldn't they also be interested in reporting on attendances which are extremely worrying for the game?'"
They do.
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| Quote ="dboy"Well, you need to decide how you want to measure success...attendance or receipts, as in the olden days.'"
Such advice would be much better targeted at those who administer the game.
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| Quote ="JonB95"They do.'"
Feel free to cite an example this season of a RL journalist (or anyone from the RFL) reporting that SL attendances this season are down by a double-digit percentage.
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| Quote ="William Eve"Such advice would be much better targeted at those who administer the game.'"
Seeing as you have set yourself up as the Carol Vorderman of RL attendances, I think it's only fair you acknowledge the point.
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| Quote ="dboy"Seeing as you have set yourself up as the Carol Vorderman of RL attendances, I think it's only fair you acknowledge the point.'"
I'd prefer to measure success via a combination of attendances and their associated receipts (gate/ticket money) but I only have access to the former. The clubs and the RFL have access to both, which is another reason why you ought to be asking them the question rather than me.
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| Quote ="William Eve"I'd prefer to measure success via a combination of attendances and their associated receipts (gate/ticket money) but I only have access to the former. The clubs and the RFL have access to both, which is another reason why you ought to be asking them the question rather than me.'"
You are right. However, as turnover and profits are readily available in the public domain via company accounts, you need to be more thorough in your investigations.
Fill your boots.
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| So what you're saying Bill, is midway through the season, you are changing your crusade to suit your new agenda.
I've calculated that the quality of your trolling has decreased by a proportion equal to Leeds injury crisis.
'It doesn't matter because we aren't winning'.
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| Quote ="dboy"You are right. However, as turnover and profits are readily available in the public domain via company accounts, you need to be more thorough in your investigations.
Fill your boots.'"
Feel free to provide the readily available in the public domain accounts for this season.
Good luck with that.
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| Quote ="Wadski"So what you're saying Bill, is midway through the season, you are changing your crusade to suit your new agenda.
I've calculated that the quality of your trolling has decreased by a proportion equal to Leeds injury crisis.
'It doesn't matter because we aren't winning'.'"
Where has it all gone wrong at Huddersfield?
Or is it that your club are increasingly reliant upon away fans turning up there?
[uHuddersfield V Leeds SL attendances[/u
2013: 7,756
2012: 9,128
2011: 10,428
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| Quote ="William Eve"Feel free to provide the readily available in the public domain accounts for this season.
Good luck with that.'"
You know, I guess, that accounts are generally 18 months behind.
You dismiss their importance and insist in peddling your viewpoint on singular data only.
A career in politics beckons.
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| Quote ="dboy"You can make fun, and I can see why you would, but seriously...Hudds have team that are performing at he top of the game, playing a superbly attractive brand of rugby...why the Hell won't people in Hudds follow them??'"
that's a question we have all been asking! the answer is we dont know, its disappointing that our crowds aren't bigger, its been done to death on why our crowds have been poor over the years.
maybe with an upturn in people's financial situations we might get a few more coming in.
but us fans are turning up and doing our bit,but we just dont know why people wont come
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| Quote ="William Eve"Where has it all gone wrong at Huddersfield?
Or is it that your club are increasingly reliant upon away fans turning up there?
[uHuddersfield V Leeds SL attendances[/u
2013: 7,756
2012: 9,128
2011: 10,428
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sorry to disappoint but 1500 leeds fans today, but they are only the 3rd team this season to be followed by over 1000 to the JSS so well done to them, shame they couldn't bring anywhere near the 8,000 they brought for the cup game!
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| Quote ="dboy"You know, I guess, that accounts are generally 18 months behind.'"
Hence your earlier ludicrous suggestion to be more thorough I suppose?
Quote ="dboy"You dismiss their importance and insist in peddling your viewpoint on singular data only.'"
How can I dismiss something that's not yet been reported or released into the public domain?
Quote ="dboy"A career in politics beckons.'"
I'd stick to analysing local accents and their relevance to representative selection criteria if I were you. You may discover a warm welcome within certain political circles if you do just that.
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| Quote ="meast"that's a question we have all been asking! the answer is we dont know, its disappointing that our crowds aren't bigger, its been done to death on why our crowds have been poor over the years.
maybe with an upturn in people's financial situations we might get a few more coming in.
but us fans are turning up and doing our bit,but we just dont know why people wont come
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I don't think you can use the financial situation as an excuse.
Other clubs, certainly my own, are doing very well.
If Hudds crowds had DIPPED, then fair enough, but in he SL era, they were never good..
This is not a dig...truth be told, I wish my team was as competitive...but if 8k will watch Wakey, why won't more watch an excellent team like Hudds?
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| Quote ="meast"sorry to disappoint but 1500 leeds fans today, but they are only the 3rd team this season to be followed by over 1000 to the JSS so well done to them, shame they couldn't bring anywhere near the 8,000 they brought for the cup game!'"
That'll be because it cost more than £8 and it was a fixture where the result counted for little.
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| Quote ="dboy"I don't think you can use the financial situation as an excuse.
Other clubs, certainly my own, are doing very well.
If Hudds crowds had DIPPED, then fair enough, but in he SL era, they were never good..
This is not a dig...truth be told, I wish my team was as competitive...but if 8k will watch Wakey, why won't more watch an excellent team like Hudds?'"
To be fair, Huddersfield aren't flogging cheap tickets on quite the same cheapo scale that Wakefield are this season.
Do you think Wakefield would be averaging 7,948 this season (still marginally down on their average attendance last season) if it weren't for season tickets being priced at less than £10 a game for adults, less than £2 a game for kids and single game offers like today where adults paid £5 and kids got in for free?
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