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| Quote ="Dave Lister"The most frustrating thing is our big game players have had shockers. Tomkins has probably put in his worst performance all season for club and country. Ellis has been poor. Sinfield poor. Even Roby hasn't been up to his usual standards. Very disappointing all round.'"
and whilst this is a very good Aussie team, we have faced much better historically and had we played to our potential surely this would have been closer.
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| Quote ="just_jillie"This has to be Tompkins worst match ever! Yeaman and Briscoe are asleep!'"
I think Yeaman's made some decent tackles in defence, he's not International quality but to question him over players like Chase. Wilkin is an idiot with the ball at times too, instead of sending it out wide he always cuts inside.
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| Has anyone thrown to Hall since the Try?
Why can't Macnamara pick a team/players that can play? Rangi = useless, Briscoe = missing, Yeaman = asleep, Morley = one or two good plays but nothing else! Sinnys kicks not doing what they should...
Woeful, just woeful...
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| Where has expansive Rugby like that move there been hiding in this half?
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| Wilkin cutting inside...AGAIN!
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| Quote ="dubairl"there hasn't been a backs move from england in this game, played to much one up rugby no change up what the aussies are great at'"
Indeed. Sheens has got his tactics absolutely spot on, as much as it pains me to say it. Restricted us big style (that is if we ever had any illusions of passing the ball about a bit).
Unfortunately we struggle in the backs for quality, as was said before the tournament. I was flamed for daring to suggest Briscoe wasn't as good as people claim he is at the start of the season, and this performance has summed his talents up. Same goes for Yeaman. Although, I cannot see any English players coming through that can live with the Australian backs. Sheer class, a threat every time they get the ball.
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| Lets play up the middle ..........
NO!!!! it doesn't bloody work!!
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| Well done Locky.
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| Happy for Darren. A true servant to the game. We've been terrible though.
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| Great kick locky!
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| LOCKYER!
HAHAHAHAH! That is magic.
HAHAHHAHAHAHH! That conversion wasn't!
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| Fantastic to see Lockyer score on his farewell. Without doubt one of the greatest rugby players I've ever had the pleasure of watching.
Different mind-set from the Aussies. They play basic rugby then once the opposition have settled into that they come up with something special. Endless patience from 1 to 17 which compared with our headless chicken approach looks so clinical and ruthless.
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| saying this was one of the weakest australian teams, they seemed to play like real champions, we looked like rabbit in the headlights and panicked far too often.
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| Quote ="Catalancs"Fantastic to see Lockyer score on his farewell. '"
Once the result wasn't in doubt, you couldn't begrudge him that.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"saying this was one of the weakest australian teams, they seemed to play like real champions, we looked like rabbit in the headlights and panicked far too often.'"
Indeed. I don't think this Australian team is as week as people make out, people are just determined to detract from any English improvement.
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"Indeed. Sheens has got his tactics absolutely spot on, as much as it pains me to say it. Restricted us big style (that is if we ever had any illusions of passing the ball about a bit).
Unfortunately we struggle in the backs for quality, as was said before the tournament. I was flamed for daring to suggest Briscoe wasn't as good as people claim he is at the start of the season, and this performance has summed his talents up. Same goes for Yeaman. Although, I cannot see any English players coming through that can live with the Australian backs. Sheer class, a threat every time they get the ball.'"
Lol Briscoe.
I was flamed for saying Briscoe was terrible returning the ball after game 1, accused of being biased, shouted down as being retarded. Told he had tons of line breaks - Turns out he had 1, the least in the england backs.
Same game I said I'd never seen anyone as slow as him. Told I was an idiot........ He was chased down the next game by SIMON MANNERING.
Briscoe is a myth. But don't let the rlfans here you say it, or they'll call a psychiatric doctor to your house
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| Should never have taken that penalty to make it 8-8
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| Briscoe & Yeaman aren't good enough, Sinfield & Jones-Buchanan made far too many mistakes and looked generally clueless.
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| Quote ="r a n c i d"Lol Briscoe.
I was flamed for saying Briscoe was terrible returning the ball after game 1, accused of being biased, shouted down as being retarded. Told he had tons of line breaks - Turns out he had 1, the least in the england backs.
Same game I said I'd never seen anyone as slow as him. Told I was an idiot........ He was chased down the next game by SIMON MANNERING.
Briscoe is a myth. But don't let the rlfans here you say it, or they'll call a psychiatric doctor to your house
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You've never seen anyone slower than him? What a ridiculous statement, that's why people tell you you're an idiot.
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"Indeed. Sheens has got his tactics absolutely spot on, as much as it pains me to say it. Restricted us big style (that is if we ever had any illusions of passing the ball about a bit).
Unfortunately we struggle in the backs for quality, as was said before the tournament. I was flamed for daring to suggest Briscoe wasn't as good as people claim he is at the start of the season, and this performance has summed his talents up. Same goes for Yeaman. Although, I cannot see any English players coming through that can live with the Australian backs. Sheer class, a threat every time they get the ball.'"
Briscoe is capable of some brilliant things, but he still needs to learn to read the game a bit. I dont think he did too much wrong tonight though. He was left in no mans land a few times in defence and never even got a sniff of a chance in attack. He carried the ball ok off our line.
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| Quote ="Gronk!"Briscoe & Yeaman aren't good enough, Sinfield & Jones-Buchanan made far too many mistakes and looked generally clueless.'"
Disagree. Briscoe is good enough, he didn't play well tonight but neither did plenty of players - Tomkins was terrible but he and Briscoe are clearly good enough. Chase was much, much worse than Sinfield.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"saying this was one of the weakest australian teams, they seemed to play like real champions, we looked like rabbit in the headlights and panicked far too often.'"
One of the weakest Australian teams? Give your head a wobble.
Carvell, Westwood and JJB stood up when it mattered but we shot ourselves in the foot. We've had a good overall tournament, beating the previous Four Nations holders and the World Champions and we really need to grab hold of the positives and move on. We lost but for the first time in a long long time many people thought we could beat Australia tonight.
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| Thurston(especially) Lockyer and Smith controlled the game with ease and untill we get some top quality half backs we're going to struggle like this.
A quality kicking game would of made a huge difference, instead it was Australia who continually pinned us back and we could never build any pressure.
Absolutely gutted but there are some positives to take from this tournament(Hammering the World and 4N champions the best) and hopefully we can bring some half backs through before the world cup in 2013.
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| Quote ="Gronk!"Briscoe & Yeaman aren't good enough, Sinfield & Jones-Buchanan made far too many mistakes and looked generally clueless.'"
Agree with all that, add Chase and Peacock into the mix, time for Morley to to be put out to pasture, Wilkin tried hard but isn't up to the standard required.
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