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| [i6[/i Quote ="Towns88"Hackson Jastings to Wigan confirmed. Bet he will be on some coin there.'"
As opposed to every other clubs signings who will be playing purely for honour
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| Quote ="Towns88"Hackson Jastings to Wigan confirmed. Bet he will be on some coin there.'"
Radlinski trying to make out as if f Hastings turned down bigger money elsewhere to join them, who exactly? If an NRL team put in an offer he’d have been straight back to Australia and the only other team strongly into him here in Leeds didn’t have a marquee spot left so unlikely we were offering him more as ALL his wage would’ve counted on the cap whereas it’s just £150k at Wigan with him becoming marquee. Plus Leeds had no interest in agreeing to an NRL release clause which made any potential wages irrelevant. Still, makes them/him sound better if they stay he turned down more to go to them even if it isn’t true.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Radlinski trying to make out as if f Hastings turned down bigger money elsewhere to join them, who exactly? If an NRL team put in an offer he’d have been straight back to Australia and the only other team strongly into him here in Leeds didn’t have a marquee spot left so unlikely we were offering him more as ALL his wage would’ve counted on the cap whereas it’s just £150k at Wigan with him becoming marquee. Plus Leeds had no interest in agreeing to an NRL release clause which made any potential wages irrelevant. Still, makes them/him sound better if they stay he turned down more to go to them even if it isn’t true.'"
Thing is you don't know it isn't true but it obviously suits your argument. FWIW I was told Leeds offered more but wanted three years and no get out clause, and as for Marquee spots it's not like Leeds haven't been known to move players on at the drop of a hat is it ? maybe thats why Sinners went for Lui after the Hastings deal was dead in the water.
By the way Sinners would have got shut of Merrin or Hurrell at the drop of a hat if he could have got Hastings .
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| Quote ="Salford red all over"Thing is you don't know it isn't true but it obviously suits your argument. FWIW I was told Leeds offered more but wanted three years and no get out clause, and as for Marquee spots it's not like Leeds haven't been known to move players on at the drop of a hat is it ? maybe thats why Sinners went for Lui after the Hastings deal was dead in the water.
By the way Sinners would have got shut of Merrin or Hurrell at the drop of a hat if he could have got Hastings .'"
Not sure about the latter. Merrin has arguably been their player of the year.
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| Quote ="Salford red all over"Thing is you don't know it isn't true but it obviously suits your argument. FWIW I was told Leeds offered more but wanted three years and no get out clause, and as for Marquee spots it's not like Leeds haven't been known to move players on at the drop of a hat is it ? maybe thats why Sinners went for Lui after the Hastings deal was dead in the water.
By the way Sinners would have got shut of Merrin or Hurrell at the drop of a hat if he could have got Hastings .'"
You mean Merrin who they’ve just made captain? Yeah of course. Sinfield has moved players on but not ones he’s just brought in himself several months ago.
At least my argument has some logic with Leeds unable to make him marquee thus severely affecting how much he’d cost us on our cap, whereas you’ve just plucked Sinfield moving on Merrin or Hurrell on out of thin air. Without him being able to be marquee for Leeds then we simply don’t have the cap space to have offered him big money.
And if Leeds wouldn’t agree to a NRL clause then he didn’t turn us or our money down we turned him down.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"You mean Merrin who they’ve just made captain? Yeah of course. Sinfield has moved players on but not ones he’s just brought in himself several months ago.
At least my argument has some logic with Leeds unable to make him marquee thus severely affecting how much he’d cost us on our cap, whereas you’ve just plucked Sinfield moving on Merrin or Hurrell on out of thin air. Without him being able to be marquee for Leeds then we simply don’t have the cap space to have offered him big money.
And if Leeds wouldn’t agree to a NRL clause then he didn’t turn us or our money down we turned him down.'"
So you don't think sinfield is capable of getting shut if there was a better option really ? remind me how it went with his good mate Furner not to mention your mate Mcdermott. Sinfield would stab his own granny in the back .
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| Quote ="Salford red all over"So you don't think sinfield is capable of getting shut if there was a better option really ? remind me how it went with his good mate Furner not to mention your mate Mcdermott. Sinfield would stab his own granny in the back .'"
He didn’t get shut of Furner, Hetherington sacked him, and it wasn’t because their was a better option as we’re still without a permanent new coach. McDermott again was sacked by Hetherington.
No I don’t think he’d get rid of either player that he signed and is very happy with and has tied to long contracts for a guy who could be gone within 12 months and need you starting all over again.
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| Nobody knows the money side. We do know Leeds really wanted Hastings. It seems the NRL clause became a big problem though, as at one stage Leeds were willing to pay a fee to get him this year.
Anyway, Maloney is now the big question. I know Leeds have been linked but I wouldn't be surprised if he goes elsewhere.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Quote He didn’t get shut of Furner, Hetherington sacked him, and it wasn’t because their was a better option as we’re still without a permanent new coach. McDermott again was sacked by Hetherington.'"
Of course the head honcho pulled the trigger but sinners loaded the gun, wasn't the club rotten in his opinion and it was him or Furner in that Carney interview ?
Quote for a guy who could be gone within 12 months and need you starting all over again.'" '"
This bit I agree with and just shows what state the game is in when a Rugby League giant has bent over backwards to the players demands. In regards to the two year deal Jacko made it clear he only wants a year so the NRL clause will kick in sooner rather than later I believe. So hardly building a team around him. Good luck to Jacko he will return to Aus with a sackfull of cash and my guess Cooper Cronks number 7 shirt at the chucks once he hangs his boots up.
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| Quote ="TonyM19"[i6[/iAs opposed to every other clubs signings who will be playing purely for honour'"
great signing for Wigan. Congrats, although i'm a bit jealous!
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| Quote ="Salford red all over". Good luck to Jacko he will return to Aus with a sackfull of cash and my guess Cooper Cronks number 7 shirt at the chucks once he hangs his boots up.'"
No. The Sydney Roosters will have Lachlan Lam (son of Adrian Lam) and perhaps Kyle Flanagan (son of former Cronulla coach Shane Flanagan) as carefully groomed but inexpensive candidates to replace Cooper Cronk. The Roosters want a relatively inexpensive half to partner Luke Keary because they will need lot of money to retain Latrell Mitchell. So the Roosters will not be bidding for Jackson Hastings.
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| Quote ="Salford red all over"This bit I agree with and just shows what state the game is in when a Rugby League giant has bent over backwards to the players demands. In regards to the two year deal Jacko made it clear he only wants a year so the NRL clause will kick in sooner rather than later I believe. So hardly building a team around him. Good luck to Jacko he will return to Aus with a sackfull of cash and my guess Cooper Cronks number 7 shirt at the chucks once he hangs his boots up.'"
Depends if he can replicate his Salford form at Wigan which isnt a guarantee. If he doesn't, his stock may fall
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| Quote ="Salford red all over"So you don't think sinfield is capable of getting shut if there was a better option really ? remind me how it went with his good mate Furner not to mention your mate Mcdermott. Sinfield would stab his own granny in the back .'"
McDermott?? Sinfield didn't return until after he was sacked. And while he was probably partly responsible for sacking Furner - though to what extent is uncertain - Furner himself was hardly blameless, given results and performances.
But I forget: Salford have never, ever in their history sacked a coach.
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| Quote ="Clearwing"But I forget: Salford have never, ever in their history sacked a coach.'"
We have but it always took some doing John Harvey didn't even get the boot after our worst result ever that 96-16 defeat at Bradford.
John Wilkinson was always too loyal to his coaches, and nowadays we couldn't pay one off.
Wouldn't be surprised to see sinners come back to Salford this time for Watto, although at the moment you may be in danger of Agar getting the gig.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Radlinski trying to make out as if f Hastings turned down bigger money elsewhere to join them, who exactly? If an NRL team put in an offer he’d have been straight back to Australia and the only other team strongly into him here in Leeds didn’t have a marquee spot left so unlikely we were offering him more as ALL his wage would’ve counted on the cap whereas it’s just £150k at Wigan with him becoming marquee. Plus Leeds had no interest in agreeing to an NRL release clause which made any potential wages irrelevant. Still, makes them/him sound better if they stay he turned down more to go to them even if it isn’t true.'"
The Wigan board are kings of bad spin.
Hastings joined Wigan as they're essentially offering him a one year contract on very good money. Plus he might have a chance at a trophy which will be next to impossible at Salford next year.
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| Quote ="MadDogg"The Wigan board are kings of bad spin.
Hastings joined Wigan as they're essentially offering him a one year contract on very good money. Plus he might have a chance at a trophy which will be next to impossible at Salford next year.'"
Wigan have basically signed Hastings for 1 season before the NRL release clause comes into force (IF an NRL club then actually wants to sign him after this time ?)
If not then Wigan could have him for longer (But with the constant threat that Hastings could return home at the drop of a hat when an NRL club comes calling)
IMO Leeds wanted him badly and were even willing to pay a transfer fee to Salford in order to get him in for the remainder of the 2019 season plus for a further guaranteed 3 seasons beyond,But without an NRL release clause!
IMO this is the best decision for the Rhinos at this moment in time.
What happens if Hastings does get the call during pre season of 2021,How will Wigan deal with that at such a late time before the new season?
Or more to the point how would the Rhinos have dealt with this?
Perhaps Wigan fancied the gamble more than the Rhinos did and only time will tell.....Fantastic player though
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| Quote ="Budgiezilla"Josh Johnson: Barrow Raiders to Salford (Signed for the remainder of the season)'"
Not a bad signing, was very highly rated at the Giants it was just unfortunate that he had the likes of Kopczak, Crabtree, Ta'ai etc etc to compete with when he was coming through. Good luck Josh.
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| Quote ="The Biffs Back"Wigan have basically signed Hastings for 1 season before the NRL release clause comes into force (IF an NRL club then actually wants to sign him after this time ?)
If not then Wigan could have him for longer (But with the constant threat that Hastings could return home at the drop of a hat when an NRL club comes calling)
IMO Leeds wanted him badly and were even willing to pay a transfer fee to Salford in order to get him in for the remainder of the 2019 season plus for a further guaranteed 3 seasons beyond,But without an NRL release clause!
IMO this is the best decision for the Rhinos at this moment in time.
What happens if Hastings does get the call during pre season of 2021,How will Wigan deal with that at such a late time before the new season?
Or more to the point how would the Rhinos have dealt with this?
Perhaps Wigan fancied the gamble more than the Rhinos did and only time will tell.....Fantastic player though'"
I think the release clause will come with conditions. There will likely be a time frame where the clause is active. I doubt he will be able to up sticks and go whenever he feels like it
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| Quote ="The Biffs Back"Wigan have basically signed Hastings for 1 season before the NRL release clause comes into force (IF an NRL club then actually wants to sign him after this time ?)
If not then Wigan could have him for longer (But with the constant threat that Hastings could return home at the drop of a hat when an NRL club comes calling)
IMO Leeds wanted him badly and were even willing to pay a transfer fee to Salford in order to get him in for the remainder of the 2019 season plus for a further guaranteed 3 seasons beyond,But without an NRL release clause!
IMO this is the best decision for the Rhinos at this moment in time.
What happens if Hastings does get the call during pre season of 2021,How will Wigan deal with that at such a late time before the new season?
Or more to the point how would the Rhinos have dealt with this?
Perhaps Wigan fancied the gamble more than the Rhinos did and only time will tell.....Fantastic player though'"
I think the release clause will come with conditions. There will likely be a time frame where the clause is active. I doubt he will be able to up sticks and go whenever he feels like it
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Radlinski trying to make out as if f Hastings turned down bigger money elsewhere to join them, who exactly? If an NRL team put in an offer he’d have been straight back to Australia and the only other team strongly into him here in Leeds didn’t have a marquee spot left so unlikely we were offering him more as ALL his wage would’ve counted on the cap whereas it’s just £150k at Wigan with him becoming marquee. Plus Leeds had no interest in agreeing to an NRL release clause which made any potential wages irrelevant. Still, makes them/him sound better if they stay he turned down more to go to them even if it isn’t true.'"
Well with Tui going and Lui coming in, Watkins not getting marquee there has to be a spot at Leeds. They didnt want an NRL clause in there thats why hes at Wigan. I reckon Leeds offered more to try ofset the clause. The fact Leeds probably offered marqueeprobably tells you there will be 3 marquee spots in SL next year
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| Quote ="thepimp007"Well with Tui going and Lui coming in, Watkins not getting marquee there has to be a spot at Leeds. They didnt want an NRL clause in there thats why hes at Wigan. I reckon Leeds offered more to try ofset the clause. The fact Leeds probably offered marqueeprobably tells you there will be 3 marquee spots in SL next year'"
Aren't Merrin & Hurrell the Leeds marquee players?
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