Perhaps they sold 2,327 tickets? It's not unknown for clubs to count those who still don't turn up despite having a ticket.

You are the only one questioning the validity of the crowd, why not accept you are wrong? Maybe take an eyesight test?

I am questioning the validity of the attendance on the basis that the three stands I could actually see on TV contained no more than a few hundred spectators. I'm also questioning the validity of the attendance on the basis of comments made by others earlier in this thread when some questioned the accuracy of Salford's announced attendances last season, claiming they were exaggerated.

The other problem for Salford is that the fans have been promised a bright future with challenging for trophies.......so why turn up in 2013?

Its clear the team will struggle, so why not effectively 'take a year' off and save yourself some cash for these promised 'glories' just around the corner?

What remains to be seen is how much will the crowds improve when the good Doctor starts to make some serious signings, will they reflect the quality of player brought in?

Your eyesight is appalling if you thought there were a few hundred spectators visible. Several hundred Wakefield fans alone were clearly visible in the main stand, along with the Salford fans. Not sure why I'm still arguing with such a blatant troll, but yeah.

Compare last nights crowd with one from last season and tell me it is 3000 smaller.. go on.

It must be quite exciting to be a Salford fan at the moment with their chairman promising success so surely the feel good factor should entice some stay aways back.

[uDELAYED SL Round 4 attendance - comparison to same fixture last year[/u

Leeds V Widnes in 2013 = 12,782
Leeds V Widnes in 2012 = 13,326
% decrease = -4.08%

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Out of 118 fixtures played thus far in 2013 (not including magic weekend fixtures), 29 out of 118 have shown an increase in attendance compared to the corresponding SL fixtures last year. 89 out of 118 fixtures have shown a decrease in attendance compared to the corresponding SL fixtures last year.

[uRound 1 Fixtures (7 in total)[/u
Total attendance in 2013 = 64,387 (Avg: 9,19icon_cool.gif
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2012 = 63,376 (Avg: 9,054)
% increase = +1.59%

[uRound 2 Fixtures (7 in total)[/u
Total attendance in 2013 = 69,809 (Avg: 9,973)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2012 = 71,989 (Avg: 10,284)
% decrease = -3.03%

[uRound 3 Fixtures (7 in total)[/u
Total attendance in 2013 = 58,711 (Avg: 8,387)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2012 = 71,246 (Avg: 10,17icon_cool.gif
% decrease = -17.59%

[uRound 4 Fixtures (7 in total)[/u =#FF0000**UPDATED 17/06/2013**
Total attendance in 2013 = 58,948 (Avg: 8,421)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2012 = 68,803 (Avg: 9,829)
% decrease = -14.32%

[uRound 5 Fixtures (7 in total)[/u
Total attendance in 2013 = 50,207 (Avg: 7,172)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2012 = 57,593 (Avg: 8,22icon_cool.gif
% decrease = -12.82%

[uRound 6 Fixtures (7 in total)[/u
Total attendance in 2013 = 67,079 (Avg: 9,583)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2012 = 71,439 (Avg: 10,206)
% decrease = -6.10%

[uRound 7 Fixtures (7 in total)[/u
Total attendance in 2013 = 57,048 (Avg: 8,150)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2012 = 69,941 (Avg: 9,992)
% decrease = -18.43%

[uRound 8 Fixtures (6 in total)[/u
Total attendance in 2013 = 42,216 (Avg: 7,036)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2012 = 60,028 (Avg: 10,005)
% decrease = -29.67%

[uRound 9 Fixtures (7 in total)[/u
Total attendance in 2013 = 80,429 (Avg: 11,490)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2012 = 81,841 (Avg: 11,692)
% decrease = -1.73%

[uRound 10 Fixtures (7 in total)[/u
Total attendance in 2013 = 57,882 (Avg: 8,269)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2012 = 71,601 (Avg: 10,229)
% decrease = -19.16%

[uRound 11 Fixtures (7 in total)[/u
Total attendance in 2013 = 55,117 (Avg: 7,874)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2012 = 62,013 (Avg: 8,859)
% decrease = -11.12%

[uRound 12 Fixtures (7 in total)[/u
Total attendance in 2013 = 53,477 (Avg: 7,640)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2012 = 63,337 (Avg: 9,04icon_cool.gif
% decrease = -15.57%

[uRound 13 Fixtures (7 in total)[/u
Total attendance in 2013 = 49,525 (Avg: 7,075)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2012 = 59,648 (Avg: 8,521)
% decrease = -16.97%

[uRound 14 Fixtures (7 in total)[/u
Total attendance in 2013 = 68,617 (Avg: 9,802)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2012 = 80,737 (Avg: 11,534)
% decrease = -15.01%

[uRound 15 Fixtures (7 in total)[/u
Total attendance in 2013 = 53,274 (Avg: 7,611)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2012 = 57,921 (Avg: 8,274)
% decrease = -8.02%

[uRound 16 MAGIC WEEKEND Fixtures (7 in total)[/u
Total attendance in 2013 = 62,042 (Avg: 8,863)
Total attendance at same event in 2012 = 63,716 (Avg: 9,102)
% decrease = -2.63%

[uRound 17 Fixtures (7 in total)[/u
Total attendance in 2013 = 48,752 (Avg: 6,965)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2012 = 54,966 (Avg: 7,852)
% decrease = -11.31%

[uRound 18 Fixtures (7 in total)[/u
Total attendance in 2013 = 55,384 (Avg: 7,912)
Total attendance for same fixtures in 2012 = 56,180 (Avg: 8,026)
% decrease = -1.42%

[uRounds 1 to 18 Fixtures (125 in total)[/u
Total attendance for 118 fixtures in 2013 = 1,052,904 (Avg: 8,423)
Total attendance for same 111 fixtures plus 7 MAGIC fixtures in 2012 = 1,186,375 (Avg: 9,491)
Cumulative attendance loss = 133,471
% decrease = -11.25%

Thanks for that thrilling update mate

[uClub... Games... 2013... 2012... %gain/loss[/u
Widnes... 9... 56223... 56193... +0.05%
Hull... 8... 97439... 99056... -1.63%
Leeds... 10... 148725... 153423... -3.06%
Wakefield... 7... 55385... 57984... -4.48%
Hull KR... 10... 73833... 78200... -5.58%
Wigan... 7... 104195... 110618... -5.81%
Castleford... 8... 48298... 51585... -6.37%
Warrington... 8... 83443... 89535... -6.80%
Catalan... 8... 61435... 71239... -13.76%
St Helens... 9... 97818... 123727... -20.94%
Huddersfield... 8... 50147... 64778... -22.59%
London... 10... 22306... 29388... -24.10%
Bradford... 7... 63451... 88769... -28.52%
Salford... 9... 28164... 48164... -41.52%

SUBTOTAL... 118... 990862... 1122659... -11.74%

Magic Weekend... 7... 62042... 63716... -2.63%

TOTAL... 125... 1052904... 1186375... -11.25%

[uCurrent Average Attendances V Same Fixtures Last Year[/u
[uClub... SL:2013... (SL:2012)[/u
Wigan... 14885... (15803)
Leeds... 14872... (15342)
Hull... 12180... (12382)
St Helens... 10869... (13747)
Warrington... 10430... (11192)
Bradford... 9064... (12681)
Wakefield... 7912... (8283)
Catalan... 7679... (8905)
Hull KR... 7383... (7820)
Huddersfield... 6268... (8097)
Widnes... 6247... (6244)
Castleford... 6037... (644icon_cool.gif
Salford... 3129... (5352)
London... 2231... (2939)

During the current franchised, 14 club, top 8 play-off system SL era... the total attendances in SL to date remain the lowest we have ever witnessed. Neither the replacement of the poorly-supported Crusaders with the better-supported Widnes, or the establishment of 2 new stadia, or the re-establishment of heavily-discounted SL tickets have prevented 2013 SL attendances from being the worst on record so far.

[uSL Rounds 1 to 18 total attendances comparison (2009 to 2013)[/u
=#FF0000SL 2013 - 1,052,904 from 118 fixtures plus 7 MAGIC fixtures.
SL 2012 - 1,186,375 from same 118 fixtures plus 7 MAGIC fixtures.
SL 2011 - 1,107,657 from same 118 fixtures plus 7 MAGIC fixtures =#FF0000**
SL 2010 - 1,080,686 from same 118 fixtures plus 7 MAGIC fixtures =#FF0000**
SL 2009 - 1,092,910 from same 118 fixtures plus 7 MAGIC fixtures =#FF0000**

[uSL 2013 % decrease in attendances[/u
V SL 2012 = -11.25%
V SL 2011 = -4.94%
V SL 2010 = -2.57%
V SL 2009 = -3.66%

=#FF0000** except replace Widnes with Crusaders

Your generosity of spirit is duly noted.

Almost two-thirds of the regular SL season completed now, or more precisely 66.14% of it.

Solution? Identifiable areas for improvement? Or just criticism?

Everyone fancy chucking in a quid & sorting William Eve an hour with a fille de joie?

Disastrous night for SL attendances, in spite of the decent weather.

UPDATE...
[uSL Round 19 attendances - comparison to same fixtures last year[/u

Castleford V Hull in 2013 = 6,022
Castleford V Hull in 2012 = 9,050
% decrease = -33.46%

Salford V St Helens in 2013 = 3,248
Salford V St Helens in 2012 = 5,447
% decrease = -40.37%

29 out of 120 SL fixtures have shown an increase in attendance compared to the same fixtures played last year. 81 out of 120 SL fixtures have shown a decrease in attendance compared to the same fixtures played last year. (Not including 7 Magic fixtures whose attendance was down on 2012 anyhow).

It is to be hoped that the following offers available...

[list1. Bradford V Widnes - Adults ONLY £9, or 2 Adults ONLY £17, or Family of 4 ONLY £22.
2. Wakefield V London - Adults ONLY £5, KIDS FREE!
3. Hudds V Leeds - Adults double game offer (Leeds & Catalan) ONLY £25.[/list:u
... might inspire enough people to drag SL attendances out of the mire during the rest of the weekend after such a pathetic couple of turnouts this evening.

Just reported on BBC that there are still tickets available for the British GP next week, a sign of the times perhaps

Despite selling 1000 less season tickets we (hkr) are only 500 down on last years crowds, every cloud!

Come on William I’m getting giddy to see whipping boy S.L rabble Wakefield with an increase attendance, thanks to selling tickets for about ten bob.

If I was a Wakey fan who had purchased a season ticket providing an average SL match price of £9.62 per adult or £1.92 per junior, I'd be gutted at the club allowing the great unwashed in today for just £5 and the juniors for FREE!



Nevertheless, a huge well done to Wakefield for clocking up an attendance of over 8,000 for a SL fixture against one of the utterly hopeless SL franchises who hardly anyone wants to watch, and which has almost every other SL club giving away tickets when they play them at home.

Please excuse me for a few minutes whilst I get all giddy inputting today's numbers on to the spreadsheet

Make sure you use the correct Catalans attendance of 14,858 rather than the incorrect 12,000 being spouted by the BBC.

The offer at Wakefield today was taken up by a few.... adult tickets were a fiver if bought before the game. On the day it was ten quid and the attendance was 8203. The corresponding fixture last year was attended by 5876. An increase of 40% (if my mental arithmetic is right).

UPDATE...
[uSL Round 19 attendances - comparison to same fixtures last year[/u

Catalan V Hull KR in 2013 = 14,858 =#FF0000** subject to official paying spectator/non-fudging confirmation **
Catalan V Hull KR in 2012 = 7,337
% increase = +102.51%

Bradford V Widnes in 2013 = 8,124 =#FF0000** £9 adult, £17 2xadult, £22 family-of-four cheap tickets alert **
Bradford V Widnes in 2012 = 10,261
% decrease = -20.83%

Huddersfield V Leeds in 2013 = 7,756 =#FF0000** £25 double game Leeds/Catalan cheap tickets offer alert **
Huddersfield V Leeds in 2012 = 9,128
% decrease = -15.03%

Wakefield V London in 2013 = 8,203 =#FF0000** £5 adult, kids for free cheap tickets offer alert **
Wakefield V London in 2012 = 5,876
% increase = +39.60%

40% increase at Wakey, and a good win. We will take that. Thanks Billy!

A number of loyal-to-the-game, positive-news-only journos got very excited by that attendance yesterday, which is in complete contrast to their otherwise complete lack of interest in SL attendances this season.

Most sources are still claiming the attendance was 12,000 (fudge-fudge) [url=http://www.therfl.co.uk/matchday/results/report?8888including the RFL[/url