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| Joseph Burgess has done nothing wrong that would justify his being dropped. He is the most distinguished rookie in the game. He must be retained!
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| Smith will swap with Williams and Mcilvary in for Burgess.
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| Quote ="B.Rowlins"Smith will swap with Williams and Mcilvary in for Burgess.'"
I'm going for Smith for Williams as the only change
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| I am at a complete loss to understand what Smith adds to the team. It wouldn't surprise me if he partnered Smith with Williams. The term 'organiser' is invariably reserved for those with limited abilities; ironically Deacon was also defended for those mystical abilities, but at least he was an excellent kicker. He creates nothing, he is too much of a lard ass to support breaks, his kicking is mediocre. Brough, McGuire, Sneyd, Sinfield, Gale, Williams, Ratchford put him to shame in virtually every stat - tries, assists, missed tackles, tackle busts, metres made, average gain, clean breaks, missed goals.
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| Quote ="tigertot"I am at a complete loss to understand what Smith adds to the team. It wouldn't surprise me if he partnered Smith with Williams. The term 'organiser' is invariably reserved for those with limited abilities; ironically Deacon was also defended for those mystical abilities, but at least he was an excellent kicker. He creates nothing, he is too much of a lard ass to support breaks, his kicking is mediocre. Brough, McGuire, Sneyd, Sinfield, Gale, Williams, Ratchford put him to shame in virtually every stat - tries, assists, missed tackles, tackle busts, metres made, average gain, clean breaks, missed goals.'"
I don't actually think Smith is a poor player, he isn't, and probably justified his place last year.However, this year he has been off the pace and his GF performance was woeful, where he was outshone by McGuire.There are clearly better options this time. And to ask an off form player who hasn't played for over a month to come in and change the teams fortunes in a 3rd test is clutching at straws imo.
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| IMO if he picks Smith and drops Williams we lose the series. Widdop has arguably done less than Williams with the ball. It's at the DW, Smith and Williams got Wigan to the Grand Final and they know each other's roles and responsibilities. On the plus side, when we lose, SM will be out of a job thank .
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| I'd leave the halves as they are now. Everyone needs to muscle up for them to have some space.
SM has spoken about Jerry adding a quicker play of the ball and having his tough running game. It suits the England team tactics perfectly. So why is it now he may add him in the team?
Steve has done a decent job... Brought a good squad together and given the younger lads a chance. HOWEVER win, lose or draw I think it's time the coaching set up changed. Freshen things up.. Do it early before the next World Cup.
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| The only change I would of made at this point is getting Bateman out of the centre spot and get him back where he belongs. When Sam Tomkins comes back in the frame he will probley move players out of position again. He just has to ruthless and drop good players because there's better ones in there chosen position.
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| Really hoping for a much better spectacle this time out.The series had so much potential but has been pretty rank as far as entertainment goes so far.
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| It's going to absolutely chuck it down so don't expect any champagne rugby.
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| Smith has a half decent kicking game and experience at international level, this is valuable in a decider. People suggesting Gale, has he ever played in a big game?
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"People suggesting Gale, has he ever played in a big game?'"
1. No he hasn't but he should've played in 2-3 this month.
2. Has Smith ever played well in a big game?
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| I hope they've got the covers on overnight, I think there's a real danger it could get called off if the rain's as heavy as expected...
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| Quote ="loiner81"2. Has Smith ever played well in a big game? '"
Yes. When he won the Lance Todd against Hull.
It was a dire game though played through torrential rain, that day he kicked Hull to death and I expect similar tactics tomorrow but whether it has any bearing on the result not sure.
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| Quote ="Madderzahatter"I hope they've got the covers on overnight, I think there's a real danger it could get called off if the rain's as heavy as expected...'"
it would surely have to be rain of biblical proportions for them to call a decider in front of a full house off.
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| Mc Banana is a fookin idiot he is a coach and should never hav egot the job. I saoid it at the time he was appointed and have said it every season since.
I laugh at thos ewho have taken 3 years to realise it.
I spoke to a bradford player who was their when he coached.
He told me that he came into the changing room and talked in such a way that the players had no idea what he was on about and stopped listening to him.
He then said we ignored him and just talked about what we were going to do.
He was a waste and still is a waste.
But it will be too late for the rfl to realise it and many of the sheep on here.
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| He's that bad Sydney Roosters have just given him a new contract, what a bunch of idiots. And as for all those past and present England players calling for Mcnamara to stay in the job, they haven't got a clue the sheep. If only the RFL listened to Durham Giant and some of the other posters on here.
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"He's that bad Sydney Roosters have just given him a new contract, what a bunch of idiots..'"
Probably because they can't find anyone else willing to put the training cones out. If anything this proves that McNamara is a better assistant than Head Coach.
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"He's that bad Sydney Roosters have just given him a new contract, what a bunch of idiots..'"
Probably because they can't find anyone else willing to put the training cones out. If anything this proves that McNamara is a better assistant than Head Coach.
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| Wigan gave Iestyn Harris a job as coach, and he did a great job with Wales (and Salford)...
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| I think we can do better with the players we have but I am nether sure abput mcnamara nor am I going to blame him out right.
I have the usual feeling of hopelessness getting the train to this match as I have had throughout my life whem it cpmes to an international decider with England involved.
I hopevthey can finally win one but without a fist class coach I doubt we will ever do it.
We see at 3 ish
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| i am completely bewildered by the changes that have been made today, and that sums up my feeling about the current coaching setup.
swapping a wing that didnt do anything wrong, and replacing a half with someone who had their worst season for quite a while.
Matty Smith will give you 100%, and will always reach a certain standard, BUT he's been well off his best this year.
Happy to be proven wrong, but neither of these to me will solve the problem of lack of creativity.
Come on WallOfWhite nevertheless !
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| The bloke is a totally clueless,he picks a scrum half who wasn't even the best this year.....hoping the kiwis win tbh.Watching it on the red button ATM and Noble is cringeworthy
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| Quote ="ShortArse"i am completely bewildered by the changes that have been made today, and that sums up my feeling about the current coaching setup.
swapping a wing that didnt do anything wrong, and replacing a half with someone who had their worst season for quite a while.
Matty Smith will give you 100%, and will always reach a certain standard, BUT he's been well off his best this year.
Happy to be proven wrong, but neither of these to me will solve the problem of lack of creativity.
Come on WallOfWhite nevertheless !'"
Well, tbf, McGillvary deserved a chance, but agree with your other points.
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