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| Quote ="TheElectricGlidingWarrior"Are you still trying to claim there is some doubt as to whether Hall interfered at that PTB?
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No I never claimed that at all, perhaps you're the one drinking if that's what you've read.
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| Quote ="TheElectricGlidingWarrior"The reason it's 11 pages is due to the sense of entitlement of Whinos fans who appear to think referees should ignore their team's transgressions to ensure the win.'"
No it really is because more fans = more posters, hence more people to have a say on the match....simple as that really.
Nothing to do with a bigger outrage or a bigger entitlement.
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| Oh my God. I just overdosed on irony and nearly died. Did I just see a Wigan fan accusing others of believing their teams transgressions should be ignored to ensure the win? Really? A Wigan fan? Wigan? The worst offenders in the sport? Oh, okay then.
Ignore the tone and look at the incidents. 2 clearly incorrect calls directly effected the score, both times in your favour. Why wouldn't we be annoyed?
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"No I never claimed that at all, perhaps you're the one drinking if that's what you've read.'"
So you don't think there's any doubt he interfered, you just don't think a penalty should have been given because he plays for Leeds. Righto
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| Quote ="Big Jim Slade"Oh my God. I just overdosed on irony and nearly died. Did I just see a Wigan fan accusing others of believing their teams transgressions should be ignored to ensure the win? Really? A Wigan fan? Wigan? The worst offenders in the sport? Oh, okay then.
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Just noticed that myself. F**k me
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| Quote ="PurpleCheeseWarrior"It would have been awarded by the VR if no player was impeeded then surely? Oh what's that? You're a biased c**t who doesn't know what he's talking about? Thought so shhhhhhhh!
Also there's no P in Tomkins you absolute spazmoid!'"
Oh dear me.
I would suggest the care worker needs to take your internet privileges away for a while.
And there's no double e in the middle of impeded, remedial.
You're welcome. Now, I think I hear your Mum and your sister calling you in for bedtime. It's just the one voice, mind.
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| Quote ="TheElectricGlidingWarrior"He blamed the Catalans crowd for a defeat claiming they influence the ref. Many of your players are very classy and deserve a lot of respect for the way they conduct themselves, but not all, and certainly not your coach.'"
So that's one occasion. How long ago?
Pretty sure we've lost games since then.
What he hasn't done however, is describe a referee as "bent" live on television. Guess which coach did that recently?
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| Quote ="TheElectricGlidingWarrior"So you don't think there's any doubt he interfered, you just don't think a penalty should have been given because he plays for Leeds. Righto
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No please learn to read.
I think it's a touch and go incident. Unlike an obvious knock on from Smith which isn't debatable or matter of opinion....it was just flat out wrong.
Like I said Sarginson has planted the ball down before regaining his feet so he hasn't exactly tried to PTB correctly so both playing are trying to gain an advantage that you could argue cancels each other out.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"What he hasn't done however, is describe a referee as "bent" live on television. Guess which coach did that recently?'"
Guess who threw a little paddy and described a referee as much worse last night? In fact, who showed their true colours for all to see? Let's have a look, shall we?
Quote ="Andy Gilder on his unfunny Twitter"Terrific two points for @SilversRef there. Bravo. Cheating c*nt. #SLWigLee'" Quote ="Andy Gilder on his unfunny Twitter""Check the onside". Ash Handley a good eight yards behind Sinfield. You're beyond incompetent @SilversRef, you're a cheating c*nt.'" Quote ="Andy Gilder on his unfunny Twitter"No attempt to use his arms, it's a clear shoulder charge. F*cking clueless Silverwood and Cummings, typical scummy Wigan'" Quote ="Andy Gilder on his unfunny Twitter"Oh look. F*cked over by Silverwood again. If Brian Mac wants to speak his mind post-game, I'll pay his fine #SLWigLee'"
Not on live TV, but nevertheless in the public arena. Still, you throwing a strop is funnier than, well, your 'funny' tweets.
And let's not overlook the wonderfully classy but grammatically incorrect [size=85(seeing as you've deemed yourself competent to correct people's spelling)[/size:
Quote ="Andy Gilder on his unfunny Twitter"I sincerely hope that at some point Wigan suffer a rash of ACL injuries caused by cannonball's and deliberate attacks to the knee.'"
All in all, you're a bit of an embarrassment. Worthy of little more than, well, pointing and laughing.
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| All I get from that is that Silverwood is a cheating C U Next Tuesday.
If that's Andys opinion he's entitled to it.
Its common knowledge for decades that some refs love/hate some clubs. The old school talk about it at functions and after dinner speaking.
I've seen Ganson give a pentalty for a forward pass, the team penalised just happened to be in a tight game against Saints! True story.
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| all the non biased whinos fans will be coming up next that ALL the match officials were responsible for the giants defeat at Saints and that Mr silverwood was the reason.
I'll repeat and shout for the hard of joined up thinking!
IF LEEDS RHINOS HAD SCORED MORE POINTS THAN WIGAN WARRIORS THEY WOULD HAVE WON. THEY DIDN'T SO LOST.
Are Leeds supporters prepared to admit they cannot grasp that simple concept?
Next week, next game some other team will "fail to get the rub of the green". That's sport.
Oh, for what it's worth if Sarginson hadn't pulled up, tried a silly flick and passed when instead of going for glory then at least another 12 points for the Warriors. Which of the match officials was responsible for those gaffes?
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| Quote ="Cronus"Quote ="Andy Gilder"What he hasn't done however, is describe a referee as "bent" live on television. Guess which coach did that recently?'"
Guess who threw a little paddy and described a referee as much worse last night? In fact, who showed their true colours for all to see? Let's have a look, shall we?
Quote ="Andy Gilder on his unfunny Twitter"Terrific two points for @SilversRef there. Bravo. Cheating c*nt. #SLWigLee'" Quote ="Andy Gilder on his unfunny Twitter""Check the onside". Ash Handley a good eight yards behind Sinfield. You're beyond incompetent @SilversRef, you're a cheating c*nt.'" Quote ="Andy Gilder on his unfunny Twitter"No attempt to use his arms, it's a clear shoulder charge. F*cking clueless Silverwood and Cummings, typical scummy Wigan'" Quote ="Andy Gilder on his unfunny Twitter"Oh look. F*cked over by Silverwood again. If Brian Mac wants to speak his mind post-game, I'll pay his fine #SLWigLee'"
Not on live TV, but nevertheless in the public arena. Still, you throwing a strop is funnier than, well, your 'funny' tweets.
And let's not overlook the wonderfully classy but grammatically incorrect [size=85(seeing as you've deemed yourself competent to correct people's spelling)[/size:
Quote ="Andy Gilder on his unfunny Twitter"I sincerely hope that at some point Wigan suffer a rash of ACL injuries caused by cannonball's and deliberate attacks to the knee.'"
All in all, you're a bit of an embarrassment. Worthy of little more than, well, pointing and laughing.
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You do realise your comparing a quote from the head coach of one of the sports biggest teams made live on TV to the twitter stream of a supporter, I didn't really Andy Gilder had such a high standing in the game
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| Quote ="Cronus"Guess who threw a little paddy and described a referee as much worse last night? In fact, who showed their true colours for all to see? Let's have a look, shall we?
Not on live TV, but nevertheless in the public arena. Still, you throwing a strop is funnier than, well, your 'funny' tweets.
And let's not overlook the wonderfully classy but grammatically incorrect [size=85(seeing as you've deemed yourself competent to correct people's spelling)[/size:
All in all, you're a bit of an embarrassment. Worthy of little more than, well, pointing and laughing.
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| Quote ="Omar Little"You do realise your comparing a quote from the head coach of one of the sports biggest teams made live on TV to the twitter stream of a supporter, I didn't really Andy Gilder had such a high standing in the game
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Do [iyou [/irealise that Andy was condemning an opposition coach for criticising the ref but openly wanting his own coach to do the same? Hypocrisy at it's finest.
As for the comment wishing injury on players, I suppose you'd defend that as well?
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| Quote ="PurpleCheeseWarrior"Discussion? All I can see is dummies being spat everywhere! Good losers you rhinos fans.'"
Christ. I'd dread to think what the Wigan fan reaction would've been if the shoe was on the other foot. All I can see are fans discussing Silverwoods performances and petty squabbles started by a couple of Wigan fans.
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| Wigan fans are always a good watch after a close game.
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| to be fair this thread would have been 13 pages long had it been either Leeds or Wigan that had lost, a lot those clubs' fans like a good moan and whinge and ref bash when they lose ( as do most other clubs fans, but these have more than most )..
it's done with now, Aiton lost that game for Leeds, not Silverwood, it was 3 days ago it won't change, and i'm pretty sure Leeds have gained points off the back of dubious decisions?
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| Quote ="meast"to be fair this thread would have been 13 pages long had it been either Leeds or Wigan that had lost, a lot those clubs' fans like a good moan and whinge and ref bash when they lose ( as do most other clubs fans, but these have more than most
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it's done with now, Aiton lost that game for Leeds, not Silverwood, it was 3 days ago it won't change, and i'm pretty sure Leeds have gained points off the back of dubious decisions?'"
Leeds haven't had any of the big calls for a couple of years, you should know that more than anyone, Briscoe disallowed try in the last second ring any bells ? We got nothing from the refs last season, and we've had nothing this season, but we're Cup holders, top of the league, and in the semis to defend the Challenge cup. The bad calls against us will change, refs are being outed for their diabolicals and the law of averages dictate we will get a few. From what I've seen this season Wigan and especially Saints have had calls massively in their favour, you did more than well yourselves against Cas, and I've got to say our six fingered neighbours seem to have been on the end of every poor call going. Some refs decisions are down to pure cheating, some are down to missing what actually happened, and some teams are discriminated against because they are easier to discriminate against. We will talk more and more about refs and their decisions because they have to make more decisions than ever before due to the RFL and their indifference to actually enforcing the laws of the game.
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Leeds lost, even with their dubious methods they lost. Like other teams they bend the rules and get away with it, sometimes, like other teams they get caught. It's the players "cheating " not the match officials but then I wouldn't expect most Leeds fans to know that. Let's face it when Bailey was playing for Leeds and being a "thug" the brain cell less than amoeba south stand were praising him yet when he came back with Cas and did the same thing, the south stand were baying for blood.
Based on that the credibility of any Leeds comments need to be taken with a pinch of salt.
The ONLY reason they lost was they were not good enough to score more points than the opposition. It really is that simple!
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| Quote ="Leaguefan"Leeds lost, even with their dubious methods they lost. Like other teams they bend the rules and get away with it, sometimes, like other teams they get caught. It's the players "cheating " not the match officials but then I wouldn't expect most Leeds fans to know that. Let's face it when Bailey was playing for Leeds and being a "thug" the brain cell less than amoeba south stand were praising him yet when he came back with Cas and did the same thing, the south stand were baying for blood.
Based on that the credibility of any Leeds comments need to be taken with a pinch of salt.
The ONLY reason they lost was they were not good enough to score more points than the opposition. It really is that simple!'"
Your input on here is rendered invalid due to your jealousy of the Leeds club. You amuse me with your tantrums towards our successful outfit and for that reason I will continue to read your posts. You are one of those people that tries to annoy but actually amuses the fans of the club you target. Thanks for the laughs.
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| Quote ="Leaguefan"Let's face it when Bailey was playing for Leeds and being a "thug" the brain cell less than amoeba south stand were praising him yet when he came back with Cas and did the same thing, the south stand were baying for blood.'"
Another dreamt up accusation about Leeds on this thread. They're adding up now in opposition fans desperation to have a pop at us because we've highlighted the ref giving us some bad calls.
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| Quote ="leeds owl"Your input on here is rendered invalid due to your jealousy of the Leeds club. You amuse me with your tantrums towards our successful outfit and for that reason I will continue to read your posts. You are one of those people that tries to annoy but actually amuses the fans of the club you target. Thanks for the laughs.'"
Jealous of what or whom?
You are yet another poster who acusses me of this yet has still to provide evidence.
I call it as I see it, but then I don't walk around with designer blinkers on
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| Quote ="leeds owl"Leeds haven't had any of the big calls for a couple of years, you should know that more than anyone, Briscoe disallowed try in the last second ring any bells ? We got nothing from the refs last season, and we've had nothing this season, but we're Cup holders, top of the league, and in the semis to defend the Challenge cup. The bad calls against us will change, refs are being outed for their diabolicals and the law of averages dictate we will get a few. From what I've seen this season Wigan and especially Saints have had calls massively in their favour, you did more than well yourselves against Cas, and I've got to say our six fingered neighbours seem to have been on the end of every poor call going. Some refs decisions are down to pure cheating, some are down to missing what actually happened, and some teams are discriminated against because they are easier to discriminate against. We will talk more and more about refs and their decisions because they have to make more decisions than ever before due to the RFL and their indifference to actually enforcing the laws of the game.'"
Wah wah wah the refs give us nothing and everybody is against us
I'd be surprised if you posted that with a straight face to be honest. If you did and you're serious you've got real issues. You scored from a forward pass on Thursday, as you do most games once or twice, the "flat" pass being something Leeds push to the limits of the referee's ability to call. Next time Leeds win by a score or two, remind yourself that you probably would have lost if not for one or two calls going your way.
Every team gets some calls, every team gets done by some, including Leeds. Take your head out of the sand and move on man!
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i don't tend to remember or pay much attention to things like that after a day or so.
EVERY team gets decisions going for them and against them, it's sport, it's life, no referee's cheat, they make errors like players and coaches do, again, that's life nobody is perfect.
if you don't like your team losing to a bad decision by the officials, then you might as well give up .
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Jealous of what or whom?
You are yet another poster who acusses me of this yet has still to provide evidence.
I call it as I see it, but then I don't walk around with designer blinkers on
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You do have blinkers, just as much as anyone in fact. Your's however are for the referees instead of a team. Any criticism of them even when they've clearly messed up and you come rushing out to defend them as if they've done nothing wrong.
Even when they f**k up an obvious knock on call you try divert attention by saying "oh if they scored more points it wouldn't have mattered".....well if the ref called that correctly Leeds wouldn't have had to scored 6 more points. If the harsh obstruction call was given a try as well then it's a 18-30 score line to Leeds.
Now before anyone gets carried away saying I'm blaming the ref.....I'm not. I'm just pointing out that people simply saying "oh well" is wrong. You can "oh well score more points" but then again how many does a team have to score when a ref can have a shocker and rule out 6 points for your team and gift the opposition another 6 for a 12 point swing? Do we get to the point were you have to aim to beat teams by a certain margin to counter act the influence of the referee's calls?
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