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| Quote ="Mars"Unlike Hull KR's squad who almost to a man had the best year of their careers last season.'"
To be fair, that comment is b*llocks and is rightly getting you criticised for it. To say that even the majority of Hull KR players had the "best year of their careers" is blatantly incorrect, let alone "almost to a man".
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| oh goody, another hull v hull arguement
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"To be fair, that comment is b*llocks and is rightly getting you criticised for it. To say that even the majority of Hull KR players had the "best year of their careers" is blatantly incorrect, let alone "almost to a man".'"
My point exactly. Nothing more, nothing less!
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| Quote ="hullkrforever"plz tell me then who we merged with as that piece of history does not contain the word merged you idiot and even if we did it was 100 years ago not 10 years and to save you from relegation and total oblivion you set of sad losers'"
amalgamated (look it up).
I like you, you make me laugh.
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| Quote ="hullkrforever"plz tell me then who we merged with as that piece of history does not contain the word merged you idiot and even if we did it was 100 years ago not 10 years and to save you from relegation and total oblivion you set of sad losers'"
Does the bit in bold mean you realise it happened but still deny it? (And then rather amusingly go on to call said person an 'idiot'?!).
Are you also trying to tell us that what happened a long time ago doesn't matter as much as the present?
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| is this thread still going?
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"To be fair, that comment is b*llocks and is rightly getting you criticised for it. To say that even the majority of Hull KR players had the "best year of their careers" is blatantly incorrect, let alone "almost to a man".'"
Majority = More than half.
Take Fisher (yet to play in a top flight play-off game, I believe), Gene, and Crossman (bit-part players in good teams) off Zod's list and you have, at most, 9 from last seasons squad of roughly 25 who have played [iin teams[/i that have had better seasons than Rovers did last year.
That still leaves 16 who probably have not (don't ask me to list them all as I can't be d). That is a majority.
'Almost to a man' is a bit strong, I admit, but no need to get on your high horse. There are more ridiculous statements on this thread!
The point I was trying to make was that Hull certainly underachieved last season and Hull KR probably overachieved. All things being equal, this will be rectified this season. I stand by that as a fair comment.
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| Quote ="GJB"Guess you missed my point then?'"
Not really. See my reply to Wellsy13. I can't be bothered to repeat.
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| Quote ="Mars"Not really. See my reply to Wellsy13. I can't be bothered to repeat.'"
So your original comment was rather off the mark then, as I stated.
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| Quote ="GJB"So your original comment was rather off the mark then, as I stated.
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I think you've OWNED him
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| if you need any proof why hull schools repeatedly come bottom of the national league reports
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| Quote ="Mars"Majority = More than half.
Take Fisher (yet to play in a top flight play-off game, I believe), Gene, and Crossman (bit-part players in good teams) off Zod's list and you have, at most, 9 from last seasons squad of roughly 25 who have played [iin teams[/i that have had better seasons than Rovers did last year.
That still leaves 16 who probably have not (don't ask me to list them all as I can't be d). That is a majority.
'Almost to a man' is a bit strong, I admit, but no need to get on your high horse. There are more ridiculous statements on this thread!'"
1. Shaun Briscoe - GF Appearance 2006. Finished in the play-offs in every club he has played at apart from this season.
2. Peter Fox - Best year of his career (highest finish and England cap)
3. Chev Walker - GF, WCC and a handful of GB caps.
4. Jake Webster - NRL League Leader and NZ caps.
5. Daniel Fitzhenry - NRL GF winner 2005 and West Tigers top try-scorer
6. Paul Cooke - CC winner 2005. GF appearance 2006. Probably the worst year in his professional career, really (suspensions, being dropped, etc.)
7. James Webster - Got injured and layed off. Definitely not his best year!
8. Garret Crossman - Involved in Melbourne League Leaders squad in 2006 and 2007 (didn't play in final).
9. Ben Fisher - Highest finish of his career.
10. David Mills - Finished 7th twice previously and had better years in both.
11. Clint Newton - NRL GF winner 2007
12. Ben Galea - NRL GF winner 2005
13. Scott Murrell - Highest finish of his career.
14. Stanley Gene - WCC 2006 + highest finish.
15. Ben Cockayne - Best year of his career most likely.
16. Jason Netherton - Highest finish of his career, but played half as many games as the previous year. Arguable.
17. Makali Aizue - Best year of his career most likely,
18. Rhys Lovegrove - Best year of his career most likely.
19. Luke Menzies - Played one game as a sub and went back to Batley because of a clause in his contract.
20. Mick Vella - NRL GF appearance 2001 and NSW/Australia caps.
21. Jon Steel - Best year of his career most likely.
22. Kirk Netherton - Best year of his career most likely.
23. Chaz I’anson - Best year of his career most likely.
24. Liam Watts - Debut season.
25. Kris Welham - Best year of his career most likely.
26. Michael Dobson - Only played half a season for Rovers. The other half he barely got played at Canberra.
27. Lee Gommersall - Played in one game.
28. Chris Chester - CC winner 2005. GF appearances in 2001 and 2006. Retired through injury. Probably the worst year of his career.
12 out of 28 had arguably a better season this year at Rovers than elsewhere. The majority have had better years elsewhere.
The majority of the players that had a better year are up-and-coming youngsters that played a handful of games more than they did the previous year (which was also a handful of games).
If you are going to make a controversial comment, at least look it up. If you aren't sure about something, don't make bold assertations otherwise you will be criticised. That's not riding a high-horse, that's just the facts of life. The comment you made was incorrect.
Quote ="Mars"The point I was trying to make was that Hull certainly underachieved last season and Hull KR probably overachieved. All things being equal, this will be rectified this season. I stand by that as a fair comment.'"
It was close between 7th and 10th in the league, so you could argue that they over-achieved, yes. However, I personally don't see 7th as much of an achievement anyway.
Hull certainly underachieved in the SL, and anyone who tries to argue otherwise is only going to look foolish (I think even the most biased of Rovers fans will accept that Hull had a shocking season and didn't expect them to do so badly). I will say that is a fair comment you have made and one which I agree with.
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| Quote ="Mars"Are you on crack? Swain has been replaced, Carvell has spent most of the last two seasons injured. Domic and Briscoe were surplus to requirements.
Poor attempt. It [iis[/i possible to fluke a CC final but it [iisn't[/i possible to fluke three major finals in four seasons (winning one). This is something you won't have to worry about in your life time.
I would say elevating Hull KR to mediocrity in SL is a bigger achievement than most of these players could have previously claimed. Some I will give you, but you are taking the p*ss with others.
Hull = probable top 6 / possible top 4 contenders.
Hull KR = probable bottom 6 / possible bottom 4 cannon fodder
I thought I was the deluded one...
And as for Rovers improving into the play-offs with the stellar addition of Fozzard and, er, .... , best of luck! Back in the real world you have next to no chance.'"
Nurse, nurse!!!
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| Quote ="number 6"icon_eek.gif christ! what excuse have i got!? i didn't go to any schools in hull!
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I did, and my education was (apparently) fine!
(Well it got me into university in the end so it must have been semi-decent!)
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"Morgan and the players were disappointed that they didn't make the play-offs.
Myself as a fan was happy with the 7th place finsh as it showed progression from the previous season. With a good number of new players to blend in, not having a settled half back pairing all year, a couple of bad injuries to key players, along with some really poor performances at times I really think we could have achieved 6th.'"
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Quote ="hullkrforever"plz tell me then who we merged with as that piece of history does not contain the word merged you idiot and even if we did it was 100 years ago not 10 years and to save you from relegation and total oblivion you set of sad losers'"
Go on www.dictionary.com, and type in the word 'amalgamated.' And who cares how long a go it was, you still merged. and do you know the circumstances of why that merger was made?
Your cnstant slating and obsession with Hull FC and the fact that when you type you come off as a 9 year old makes you the sad loser
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Go on www.dictionary.com, and type in the word 'amalgamated.' And who cares how long a go it was, you still merged. and do you know the circumstances of why that merger was made?
Your cnstant slating and obsession with Hull FC and the fact that when you type you come off as a 9 year old makes you the sad loser
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"Does the bit in bold mean you realise it happened but still deny it? (And then rather amusingly go on to call said person an 'idiot'?!).
Are you also trying to tell us that what happened a long time ago doesn't matter as much as the present?'"
ha ha, you go on about us bringing up 1980 and you are wittering on about something that happened over a century ago!
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"ha ha, you go on about us bringing up 1980 and you are wittering on about something that happened over a century ago!'"
I'm glad someone brought it up, that was my point. We are a merged club. But so are you. Hull fans don't bring up the merger, Rovers fans do (despite the fact that they are a merged club themselves).
The point I am making is the hypocrisy of forgetting about an event that happened so you can have a dig about the same thing at a rival club (because it happened a long time ago), yet the same set of fans will also bring up something else that happened a long time ago (granted not as long, but nearly a decade before I was born!) in order to have a dig.
There is just no consistancy with most Rovers fans (this happened a long time ago so doesn't count. But this counts even though it happened a long time ago).
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| Quote ="Eurob0y"Briscoe and Cooke are rubbish though'"
Cooke is a fantastic player with a dreadful attitude, it's best not to confuse the two.
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