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| Chuck them in the Championship, see how smart he is then.
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Ah, but you miss the point. What we really need is 10 more years of this cap, or better still a lower one, so that eventually all the lower clubs will catch up and, even though we won't have any star players, the fans will roll up in huge numbers because the competition will be close. Millions I tell ya! Oh, and a bit better marketing by the clubs. That'll fix everything, yay!
Good on him by the way. He's right, and moreover, it's good to see him putting the sport to the test: "do you want money in the game, or do you not? Make up your tiny minds!" If he wins his battle, we've a chance. If he doesn't, just sit back and watch further decline.
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Ah, but you miss the point. What we really need is 10 more years of this cap, or better still a lower one, so that eventually all the lower clubs will catch up and, even though we won't have any star players, the fans will roll up in huge numbers because the competition will be close. Millions I tell ya! Oh, and a bit better marketing by the clubs. That'll fix everything, yay!
Good on him by the way. He's right, and moreover, it's good to see him putting the sport to the test: "do you want money in the game, or do you not? Make up your tiny minds!" If he wins his battle, we've a chance. If he doesn't, just sit back and watch further decline.
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| Who are these investors he mentions?
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| Quote ="rover49"Chuck them in the Championship, see how smart he is then.'"
With what reason? Come on we all know how bent RL is and this is the biggest reason why it's dying a slow and painful death, the same clubs every year hogging all the talent with underhand tactics from this winning competitions then from that get the big crowds. Basically you have about 5 teams who can ACTUALLY win something the rest are just cannon fodder with no hope what's so ever it's like their only there for the big sides to smash up. Well Koukash has seen this with his own eyes and knows the whole sports attitude needs to change!
I was told by an ex Warrington wolves academy player about how brown packets full of money were handed out like toffees to certain players an now it's all come out in public. Don't forget we now have people at te club who experienced salary cap breaches and not to mention our CEO who used to be the NRL finance director he knows how easy this pathetic salary cap is to fiddle and this is the only reason why the big clubs like wire and Wigan and Leeds for that matter don't want a raise because their already benefiting with underhand tactics while other club who can't spend it are none the wiser.
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| What a prick. There's only one way this is going to end. And it will end sooner rather than later and will involve him taking his bat and ball home.
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| I liked the guy when he first came in but now he really does come across as a total k*ob
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| Quote ="littlerich"What a prick. There's only one way this is going to end. And it will end sooner rather than later and will involve him taking his bat and ball home.'"
You tell me how it will end then? All he is doing is underlining the cheating that everyone knows that's going on at the big 4. Just been reading on the total RL.com forum and a lad on their a Leeds fan has admitted being told by a player who played for Leeds and now Catalan (wonder who that could be) used to collect extra money in Hong Kong on the way back to Australia. Outrageous!
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| Quote ="RED LEAGUE"With what reason? Come on we all know how bent RL is and this is the biggest reason why it's dying a slow and painful death, the same clubs every year hogging all the talent with underhand tactics from this winning competitions then from that get the big crowds. Basically you have about 5 teams who can ACTUALLY win something the rest are just cannon fodder with no hope what's so ever it's like their only there for the big sides to smash up. Well Koukash has seen this with his own eyes and knows the whole sports attitude needs to change!
I was told by an ex Warrington wolves academy player about how brown packets full of money were handed out like toffees to certain players an now it's all come out in public. Don't forget we now have people at te club who experienced salary cap breaches and not to mention our CEO who used to be the NRL finance director he knows how easy this pathetic salary cap is to fiddle and this is the only reason why the big clubs like wire and Wigan and Leeds for that matter don't want a raise because their already benefiting with underhand tactics while other club who can't spend it are none the wiser.'"
Tight squad limits, but no cap, sorts it out. 13 players on £50k or more (but as high as you like). If you're rich you can bring superstars in, but you can't fill the bench and reserves with all the talent in the league, nor will you have much chance of winning the title unless you've got great development resources ( with injuries, chances are you'll do well to get 8 or 9 of your 13 stars on the field at any one time, and you need a match day squad of 17). Even clubs without lots of money will be able to do OK - even the mega rich club will only want one scrum half in their 13 'star list' so the next best scrum halves in the UK are available to the next team etc.. Even a smaller club has a chance - they can be smart about which positions they fill with 'stars' and try to be the best development squad ( those who take most seriously the players behind the 13 stars will have a great chance to be competitive). Put *exactly* the same rules in the championship, but drop it to £40k.
The gap between 'stars' and sub £50k players will remove any suspicion of wives on payroll, etc. It would be completely obvious if you had more than 13 'star' players.
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| Quote ="littlerich"What a prick. There's only one way this is going to end. And it will end sooner rather than later and will involve him taking his bat and ball home.'"
That's right. Send him packing - we don't want a guy who understands business better than any of the halfwits at the RFL, and who's bringing money into the game ( yes, money into Salford *is* money into the game - put it this way, if he signed SBW, I'd turn up to watch them play my team )
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| He done fack all so far apart from mouth off but we're so desperate and weak that people like you fawn and hail his clumsy entrance into the game as the last saviour of Christ. And I can't take Red League's dumb rants seriously either. A Salford fan obviously taken in. It will end in tears.
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| Quote ="RLBandit"That's right. Send him packing - we don't want a guy who understands business better than any of the halfwits at the RFL, and who's bringing money into the game ( yes, money into Salford *is* money into the game - put it this way, if he signed SBW, I'd turn up to watch them play my team )'"
How does ' understanding business ' fit in with tipping money down a black hole?
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| Investors Starbug. Koukash talks about "investors".
No such thing. They're called benefactors for exactly the reason you describe.
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| Quote ="littlerich"He done fack all so far apart from mouth off but we're so desperate and weak that people like you fawn and hail his clumsy entrance into the game as the last saviour of Christ. And I can't take Red League's dumb rants seriously either. A Salford fan obviously taken in. It will end in tears.'"
Still not told me how legally he could be sent packing? And I've not been taken in I've know RL was bent since 2006 and the Wigan farcical!
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| Oh dear.
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| Quote ="RLBandit"That's right. Send him packing - we don't want a guy who understands business better than any of the halfwits at the RFL, and who's bringing money into the game ( yes, money into Salford *is* money into the game - put it this way, if he signed SBW, I'd turn up to watch them play my team )'"
He is openly bragging about breaking the salary cap rules and how he is going to do it FFS.
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| Quote ="rover49"He is openly bragging about breaking the salary cap rules and how he is going to do it FFS.'"
He's basically saying the salary cap isn't worth the document it's written on! It's totally flawed! Legally there's no way of stopping a business paying its employees any amount of money they want? There's no way of 100% keeping everyone in line with their spending. Look at man city in football with this financial FairPlay rule coming in they will get around this by Etihad airways huge sponsor people not realising Etihad is owned by the family of their owner. And the rules state you can spend as much money on academy as you like so what does he do starts building a 200 mill training complex claiming it will be and academy complex. Then he will get that sponsored for stupid amounts too. Nothing bus totally legally binding there's always loop holes it just depends if you have the right advisors to help you manipulate such flaws. Which clearly Marwan Koukash has.
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| What will Marwan do when he's got his multi millionaire team and only 6,000 people bother to watch? Will he break the law and kidnap people and forcibly drag them to the matches? What other things doesn't Marwan like? Maybe he should make a definitive list and publish it.
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| Quote ="littlerich"What will Marwan do when he's got his multi millionaire team and only 6,000 people bother to watch? Will he break the law and kidnap people and forcibly drag them to the matches? What other things doesn't Marwan like? Maybe he should make a definitive list and publish it.'"
Ye because your mystic meg an will know how many of the Salford/Manchester public will turn our to watch a winning team, you really are a clown basically the guy is showing the game up for what it is (corrupt) and people like you are moaning about it. It's about time someone went into the corrup melting pot of RL with a big feck off water hose to put the fire out.
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| Quote ="wire quin"Who are these investors he mentions?'"
Money launderers or faceless overseas consortiums maybe?
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| Quote ="RED LEAGUE"He's basically saying the salary cap isn't worth the document it's written on! It's totally flawed! Legally there's no way of stopping a business paying its employees any amount of money they want? There's no way of 100% keeping everyone in line with their spending. Look at man city in football with this financial FairPlay rule coming in they will get around this by Etihad airways huge sponsor people not realising Etihad is owned by the family of their owner. And the rules state you can spend as much money on academy as you like so what does he do starts building a 200 mill training complex claiming it will be and academy complex. Then he will get that sponsored for stupid amounts too. Nothing bus totally legally binding there's always loop holes it just depends if you have the right advisors to help you manipulate such flaws. Which clearly Marwan Koukash has.'"
' Advisors ' ? , seriously, it isnt rocket science, so why tell everybody what youre going to do, just do it like the others
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| Quote ="Starbug"' Advisors ' ?
, seriously, it isnt rocket science, so why tell everybody what youre going to do, just do it like the others'"
Because he probably knows that the Wigans Leeds and wire spend near enough what he wanted the cap raised to anyway, so to get it legally raised the league and teams in it WOULD be on an even keel but with it being at 1.8mil max you have chairmen/investors spending the 1.8 mill at clubs who don't cheat and the 4 clubs we all know about spending well above the 1.8 cap illegally. And tbh he probably wants the world to know the corruption going on in the game so it will fire the people who run it to pull their fingers out and do something!
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| Quote ="RED LEAGUE"Because he probably knows that the Wigans Leeds and wire spend near enough what he wanted the cap raised to anyway, so to get it legally raised the league and teams in it WOULD be on an even keel but with it being at 1.8mil max you have chairmen/investors spending the 1.8 mill at clubs who don't cheat and the 4 clubs we all know about spending well above the 1.8 cap illegally. And tbh he probably wants the world to know the corruption going on in the game so it will fire the people who run it to pull their fingers out and do something!'"
Do what? , exactly, are you suggesting the RFL dont know the loopholes?
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| Quote ="littlerich"He done fack all so far apart from mouth off but we're so desperate and weak that people like you fawn and hail his clumsy entrance into the game as the last saviour of Christ. And I can't take Red League's dumb rants seriously either. A Salford fan obviously taken in. It will end in tears.'"
I don't think Halifax have won anything since they were allowed to breach the salary cap a few years ago,have they ?
Why did Feisel/Faisal leave ? I bet you weren't taken in,were you ?
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| He's like a kid in a sweet shop, I'll have those 2 cola bottles from Hull KR, that gobstopper from Wigan and the flump from Warrington...
Wonder if Noble will be allowed full control of the club?
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