Wire played ok, Wigan not so good. Week off for teams can potentially damage a team. On the other hand if Wigan turn up, people will just say Wigan had weeks rest and it damaged wire in 2nd half.

It's no secret our 2015 props are soft as s***. You could pick a pack off this forum to outmuscle them.

Wigan's props are all defensive props, they don't have one prop who gives consistent go-forward, and their play makers are too one dimensional to compensate for their lack of space the forwards don't create.

I enjoyed that match - bit scrappy in places and not a lot of skill on show, but plenty of blood and thunder, and a manful display from Wire after a short turnaround; they out Wigan'd Wigan, which is quite satisfying.

Am I the only one however getting a bit sick of hearing Mr Thaler sneering at the players to "Gerrup - play the ball?!" He seems to have decided to take a stance against milking but in my view, has taken that way too far; he ignores some fairly blatant infringements in the tackle/ruck for the sake of avoiding being old-manned, and it causes escalation - if the Wigan players had the energy, that game could have boiled over at several points.

That said, I thought Wane's comments were disingenuous - "you need a strong ref when you come here?" I would have thought that the last thing Wigan want is a strong ref...

A strong ref would've sent Sims off for a shoulder to the face and then 2 sly punches on a half-back!

Any prop forward putting in sly punches on a HB should be sent off. My daughter would have laughed at taking them. Unless you're going to break his jaw you're not a proper prop. However as it was against Wigan & it has contributed to the pie board's biennial meltdown & 'falling out of love with the game' I will embrace it.