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| I can't see how he rates diskin deserving a contract more than Langley. They both spend a lot of time injured . But when on. The field Langley easily the better defender and does more work in my opinion .
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| Depending on who replacements are,I don't think this is a bad thing.Langleys work rate is as good as anyone's but he can't help the team when he's sat in the stands as often as he is.When he signed his last contract I reckon he would of been one of the top earners so hopefully we can get a decent replacement,or maybe we already have Carvell,Ferguson for Langley and Whitehead
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| Thing is with lest range likely to leave we don't want to lose both senior hookers at once so keeping disk in makes sense. It's not a direct comparison with Langley where we have more options in his position. It says we may offer him something later, presumably if both Donna and addy turn down our offers. Again makes sense to prioritise the younger players.
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| I guess it may come down to the cost of contract, I'd imagine Diskins is reduced where Langley's may not be. FC has got to make a decision about his funds available and where best it needs spending. Langley does the hard yards but the one thing that frustrates me is his passing and off load game.
To be fair it's be rumoured for a while.
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| That is a bold move by FC to not offer your longest serving player a new contract.
The Diskin thing has already been discussed, I think that is just a case of FC covering the position if Heath chooses to leave. O Brien will step up next season, and not before time too.
Great news that Donno has been offered a deal, I just hope he signs it!
Still no mention of several other players ooc at the end of this season - Scruton? Kearney? We could end up with an even smaller squad than the one we have now if we aren't careful.
Edit: Forget Scruton, he's signed up to 2014. Not sure why I thought he was ooc. Relief!
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| Langley - Tigers bound ?
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| Reading between the lines of the article it seems like FC has prioritised Donaldson over and above Langley
That works for me. Donaldson is the future for the Bulls at loose forward
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| If Donno maintains the improvement he's shown in the last few weeks he's well worth a new deal. However his injury record is worse than Langley's so I hope he's had his share now.
Langley's been a great servant to the club. He's still well capable of doing a job but I suspect he's on a fair bit and the club aren't willing to offer anything like that any more.
With the doubt over L'Estrange it's obvious why Diskin was re-signed. With O'Brien more than ready to come in we should be fine at hooker, if needs be with have Conroy to add cover too.
The major holes in the squad seem to me to be in the pack if we lose Langley, the centre (particularly if Blythe goes along with Lulia) and at halfback cover (if Addy's definitely gone). FC has some work to do to cover those gaps.
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| Bad hair day.
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| Quote ="tigertot"Bad hair day.'"
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| Good to see FC has no ties that are affecting his decision making with re signings.
Walker has clearly done more than Langley to earn a new deal.
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| Remember Walker and Langley would command vastly different salaries.
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| I'd guess Langers is one of the higher wages in the club at the moment, given the time he's been here.
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| Although when fit Langley is a huge asset, too many injuries these past couple of years plus being a high earner I think FC has made the right decision. Diskin on the other hand
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| But if L'Estrange is off FC would want to keep one experienced hooker wouldn't he?
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| Langley has been a good player for a long time, however, from a business perspective the correct decision has been made. Donaldson is still a developing player, one you would hope would be a foundation piece for the Bulls when they are equipped and ready to contend again. With his age and injury record, the same probably cannot be said for Jamie, despite what a solid pro he has been.
If it's simply down to fund allocation then it's always the right move to keep the younger guy, especially when an organization is in a rebuilding phase. Hopefully some cap space would be freed up by the departure of Langley which could be put to good use in bolstering a thin squad.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Remember Walker and Langley would command vastly different salaries.'"
Agreed. Considering what they offer to the side then that would be fair.
Wonder if FC has ever looked at the defensive stats. There's probably a few Whinos OOC though so FC will probably want to save the money for those.
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| Jamie has been a great servant but I think it`s the right decision for the club to off load him now, his injuries are catching up with him. I just wish he had been more constructive with ball in hand, if he had have been he could have been thought of in the same vain as Koncrete Karl.
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| Correct decision has been made RE Langley. He has been forced out of the back row due to the emergence of Bateman, Donaldson etc He is a make shift prop at the moment. With our budget so right, we can't afford our higher earner to be a make shift prop.
Everyone mentions his work rate, but in attack I always thought it hindered the team. He always seemed to take it in twice a set, hardly making a busy or producing an off load. I wish him well as he has been a good servant.
It makes good sense to spend a larger chunk of our cap on areas we desperately need to improve on, centre, half back etc.
Very very pleased to hear Donnos been offered new deal!
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| i can't imagine he counts on your cap a lot or if at all, over 10 year exemption and academy exemption?
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| Only a maximum 50k exemption for long service. Not sure what academy exemption your talking about is. Is it new this year?
Anyway amount he takes on salary cap isn't relevent as we aren't spending anything like the full cap. It's the amount he takes out of our player budget that matters.
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| Thought he was back to his best last year but there's always been a sense he never quite became the player he looked like becoming. Maybe playing his peak years under the worst coach in SL history didn't help.
I'm 50/50 on him going now as he's not a prop and I'd sooner see Donno given the 13 shirt. On the 'keep' side the squad is looking wafer thin. Carvell and Ferguson are good signings but we need about 8.
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| Quote ="Blotto"Could become "perm"anent!
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Just like I thought life was not worth living after Nathan took his hair with him, I feel the same about Langers. But there is hope with Jamie Foster & his locks.
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| Quote ="mat"
Anyway amount he takes on salary cap isn't relevent as we aren't spending anything like the full cap. It's the amount he takes out of our player budget that matters.'"
Is the right answer.
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