The old regime broke the rules of the salary cap at some point. If that's the case you have never been punished for this. Could RFL rules still give you another points deduction for this?

To go with our 6 points this season and massive financial penalty for the next two seasons....oh yes that would be fair. Unless they have given us the extra two points that Wakefield didn't get for just that.

And if we did break the sc rules, then we need a better bl00dy accountant.

you mean this from 2006/2007? www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2007/ju ... gue.sport2

you mean this from 2006/2007? www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2007/ju ... gue.sport2

Six point deduction this season, no more Sky money. Reduced Sky money for the next two years. How much more punishment do you want to give us? Not bad compared to the paltry four point deduction Wakey got is it? Why don't you just come out and say you wish we had gone bust? It must be gutting for you that we are still in super league.

Old news and was done with years ago. If supercat gets any new news I'm sure (s)he'll pass it on - some time before 2020...

Yes of course all the other teams have always followed the cap rules to the letter?

No payments for consultancy, side jobs, cheap cars , family members employed at non-market rates. Ever looked at some of the current squads and thought how do they get all that for £1.6m? The reality is that teams which are strictly following the cap rules are probably only doing it because they don't have any more cash not because of any high moral standpoint.

Yes the Bulls along with several other clubs were "caught" in the past and had points deducted, however it's like the current arguement about the level of tax the rich pay - if you have enough money you can avoid paying a lot of tax - and if a club has enough backing it can get round the cap.

Old news.

I think you will find over the past 3 years the RFL have been monitoring everybody’s Salary spending on a monthly basis.
Also why should we get less SKY money! Did Wakefield get the same when they went bust, the idea is to get the club moving again not keep crippling them so there is an excuse to send them down!!

Does anyone remember the argument Keith Senior had with the Rugby League when the Crusaders opted out? There was a quote from the League at the time saying that Senior had signed a very modest playing contract (i.e. within the cap) and the company of which he was a director had agreed a more substantial "consultancy" contract.
That said it all for me

Joke.

Disgrace.

They say monitoring over last 3 years but all we can do is take their word for it. You get less Sky money as you had advanced payments from Sky money to keep you afloat. Wakefields admin process was very swift compared to Bulls therefore didn't need to ask for these payments. They raised money through player sales during this small period of time.

No.

Bulls received the payments that they would have received anyway. I do wish people like you would stop repeating this disingenuous nonsense. Saying something is so will not change what was actually so.

The reference is to the reported no more Sky money this year, and 50% deduction next two years.

no we had our best players cherry picked for pennies, we payed our creditors and were prepared to be playing in the championship and had to rebuild a complete new team instead so which would you prefer

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Did you?

Could you give us a summary of the creditors according to the filed Statement of Affairs, and note against them which ones were actually paid? In particular, how much did you repay HMRC?

I understand Mr Glover settled with some smaller local creditors (I suppose the club's credit standing was probably shot given it was the second time in recent years your club defaulted on its debts - I seem to recall the noteworthy example of the husband-and-wife catering supplier who lost was it £11k (or £19k?) last time round as a particular example) but I never heard that he had settled with the larger creditors? Could you update us please? Ta.

In todays sports news a late surge Wakefield moves them ahead of Keighley and Halifax in the bitter and twisted, hard done by league table.

I've been quite fond of Wakey since the late 70s when a mate played there. But even back then we used to laugh at the constant booing & screams of bent & cheat. They make your average paranoid, myopic Wigan fan seem only bitter & twisted.

There you are wrong old fruit, we were fined £25,000 for what was a minor breach, and docked 2 points. St Helens were in a similar situation but the amount over the breach wasn't as much as the Bulls so they were just fined £22k with no points deduction.

So please don't make comments you can't substantiate my good fellow.

I think the next step will be a public flogging for anyone that supports the club, having just listened to the Glove Puppet, I think he's called Paul Cullen on Boots and all, I think he is not one of our fans, his comments were purely nasty and upsetting for all our fans and certainly I don't think we could welcome him with a red carpet at Odsal anymore...

Regarding Cullen's comments. I did not take his outburst as a pop at Bulls fans but rather a diatribe against the previous owners/ management. What he failed to acknowledge was that the new owners had nothing to do with the mess created & that there has been a penalty imposed . I could not believe his statement that having 16 contracted players was 16 more than Widnes and Wakefield had "this time last year". At least when he calmed down a little , he did say that SL could not afford to lose our fan base.
Then 5 minutes later he's bemoaning the fact that so many in our game concentrate on the negative stories !!

I never watch the programme, but Cullen is great value. I used to imagine he would lead GB to victory over the convicts.

Then you sobered up!

Cullen's views were well expressed and fair comment, imo not everyone is going to be in favour of our position. To be fair to the Sky team in general, on Tuesday night the SLBackchat people all backed the new owners, with Stevo, Rod Stud, and both the journos coming out in our favour and against the loss of funding.

As for Paul Cullen I find him to be generally articulate and thoughtful. As a player he was the sort that every fans likes in their team but which opposition fans tend to dislike and he's a rugby league person through and through. I didn't particularly agree with his comments but there are a million different views out there and I guess he's entitled to his.

I've been doing lone battle on the Wigan board for a couple of weeks as all dissenters appear to be banned. It is very refreshing to read mature debate on here. That's the last nice thing I am going to say about you lot.