If that was not a red card last night I have no idea what is. Yet again a ref chickens out and sticks them on report.

However, big game on next week so a slap on the wrist and a silly fine will no doubt suffice.

Looked pretty bad on TV. As ever, depends on how he is charged. If it is seen as accidental use of the forearm, then that is grade B (1-2 matches) . At the other end of the scale and seen as deliberate use of the elbow then that is grade D or E which is 3-8 matches. It will more likely be 2-3 matches I would think.

my cousin went to school with carl and apparently he was the soft lad at school and used to get knocked about all the time.

after last night he deserves a ban!

If ref hadnt bottled it and either yellow or red carded ablett, and to a lesser extent bailey, Then given theres a cup semi next week ,you can bet disciplinary would have given sending off sufficient.
By putting them on report ganson has removed that option from there nal and increased likelyhood of them being banned for cup semi. Which just happens to be against team he openly acknowledges being a supporter of. Or am I being too cynical

Ablett deserves banning for the rest of the season, raised elbow, he could of broke Tomkins neck.

It showed how daft it was when Coley got sin binned for something that was harsh for just a penalty, never mind a yellow card. And yet Ablett nearly breaks Tomkins' face and only gets a penalty against him (since "On Report" means absolutely nothing, they can get cited for anything anyway).

The mind boggles.

Is this the same Ganson that sent Morley off after the first minute during a GB game? The whole sin binning with Coley was ridiculous in comparison.

Foul play such as this from Ablett should have resulted in action being taken while the current game is in progress. OK he could potentially get a ban, but how does that help the team where the foul play was deemed against.

Noticed Ryan Bailey was up to his old tricks last night too.

I have long defended Ganson because he's always had the balls to show a straight red when its warranted instead of doing a Russell copout Smith and putting it on report.

I was genuinely suprised he didn't show the straight red last night. I can only presume he was looking at the onside situation or some other facet of play and that his touchies failed to give him the right info.

you can't beat a good old over reaction every now and again

what has the fact that your cousin was the soft lad at school and that he used to get knocked about at school got to do with ablett getting banned?

Why is it an over reaction? It was a malicious and dangerous challenge and should have resulted in a red card and could have resulted in a season and possibly a career ending injury.

Can I just ask what your opinion of Ablett's "challenge" was?

i thought tomkins was going down with the ball and was ducking into ablett, i admit it looked far worse than it was and i don't believe that their was any malice intended.
if he had been stood upright then i can agree with you,but it's very hard to determine a pre-meditated head high shot when a player is going down before contact is made

if he gets banned then that will obviously be the benchmark for all similar incidents for the next week or so by our disciplinary, but i bet that self same tackle will go unpunished come GF play-off time

It looked bad but Ablett's arm didn't even go that high, not even to neck level.

Some good aggressive RL last night, at least games when the top teams play each other are worth watching, because not a lot of SL is at the moment.

couldn't agree more mate

That's classic. Dirty git Tomkins trying to break poor Carl's elbow by "neck-butting" it.

Jeez, I didn't know such blue-tinted spectacles existed

Makes no odds, he led with elbow and connected with elbow..if it was elbow to chest and he puncutred his lung could have been even more serious..the head high doesnt come into it..he led with elbow which is worse..they cant ban him for deliberate head high, but can for delibertaley leading with elbow..a dangerous tackle is a longer ban.

Newton got banned for head high on thackray, who admitted he was falling and newton would have got him round chest, but he still ended up in neck area..heck ive sent a player off for head high and player he hit was slipping and nigh on on the floor, but he ended up hitting him in neck with a clenched fist, the player deliberately went into injure by his actions so walked, wont say what ban he got tho cos he gave me some erm unpleasantaries as he walked off.

Precisely what my point was going to be. The fact he hit him in the face was mainly down to Tomkins going down. The challenge itself, regardless of whether it hit in the face, neck or chest, was a shocker. If it HAD hit in the neck (which would have been throat in this case), it could have caused much worse damage.

The contact point is irrelevant. The type of challenge is entirely relevant.

Yup, shocking tackling technique for sure.

Still doesn't warrant some of the reactionary nonsense being spouted off about it.

Could have easily broke Tomkins jaw and put him out for the rest of the season, there was no need to tackle like that with forearms in the face.

I'm shocked and disgusted McLennan tried to defend Ablett instead of saying 'It's up to the disciplinery commitee to decide'.

Under McLennan Leeds have turned into cheap shot merchants, even the likes of Sinfield and Buderus who I had a lot of respect for for being fair and good players but now they are just as bad as the likes of Bailey for thugging it.

If I was on the disciplinary the question I would ask Ablett is, when you came in to tackle Tomkins, instead of wrapping him up with your arms as you would normally do, and were in the perfect position to do, why on this occasion did you choose to bunch your arms up ahead of you so that you struck him with the forearms?

Send this question in, I don't think the disciplinary panel would have thought about asking something like this

It didnt go neck level, his right forearm hit him in the jaw, just watched the replay and paused it, clear as day.

For me you can add cowardly dirty barsteward. If you look, he looks at Tomkins who has his eyes firmly on the dropping ball. There was only one thing in Abletts mind and i dont care what anyone says, if Gansons had had any balls he would have red carded Ablett straight away. Ablett may as well as hit him from behind! And as for Bailey it is pedictable that he would return to his thuggish ways. He will never be a world class prop as long as he has a hole in his backside. He is a cheap shot merchant who gives facials when players are being held on the ground big man!!!!!

Cheats never prosper and Rhinos fully deserved to lose on Friday!