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| I think whats needed for RL to progress in England is a larger player pool. And to get that it's a long, hard road and it starts at grass roots level. Getting the game played in schools. This is something that a lot of RL clubs do already (community projects and the like) but really there needs to be more insentive to get school kids to want to carry on and try to attain professional level. Which is where the RFL need to step in.
Francising is there to try and improve the professionalism of the sport off the field and to mean clubs don't have to try and buy success/survival and can blood youngsters. However, I think a re-think on salary cap regarding young players is long over due.
Now I'm not upto speed on current salary cap rules and I'm sure someone will correct me on this but is the current cap £1.8m and include both 1st team and juniors? If so, this really needs to be looked at. Bradford are guilty as any of allowing junior development to fall by the wayside infavour of short term gains for the 1st team and we're currently experiencing the backlash of that.
However, I think that clubs should be rewarded for increasing the player pool and developing youngsters, but I think that a monopoly on young players at a single club should be avoided which is why I think that something along the lines of a 25% exemption of the salary cap for players under 23 who've come through the club ranks would be adequate. This gives clubs an incentive to produce players and keep them on the books til they're at least 23 as some players bloom later than others.
Now, while the drawbridge is up on SL, I don't think SL clubs should completely ignore NL1 and NL2 clubs. Infact, it may be benifical to both parties to forge links between clubs, a practice I believe most NRL clubs employ. It allows young potential stars 1st team rugby at a level that's slightly above their current playing level and it helps lower league clubs in strengthening their positions within their respective leagues.
But the RFL need to increase their own influence within the sporting community. A main problem is how the game of RL is percieved. Now, I'm not saying a lot of sports journos are a little bias but it does seem to come across that way. So, instead of sabre rattling at the media, we need to bring them on side. VIP invites to RL events, free food, free booze and we'll soon have a few new friends in the redtops. Now, as for TV, that might be a little harder. However, SL and the RFL need to get together and sort out a strategy for getting more RL on the box. There's only 2 SL games on a week. That's 2 out of 7 and there's only 1 NL1 game per week!! I don't think going to Satanta is the solution as that's a channel that only reaches a limited audience. We need to get ourselves onto terrestrial channels. Or at the very least free to air channels. If you flick round on Sky there's a lot of special interest channels popping up for things like religion, low budget movies, even professional wrestling. So why not an RL channel? It wouldn't need a huge budget for the programming, and it would enable people to not only watch the game (there's got to be some deal that can be struck for classic matches, ESPN classic shows them!!) but profiles of clubs, programs on the history of the sport and explaination of the rules so that people new to the sport can understand it. After all, if you don't understand a game it can seem confusing and possibly uninteresting.
Now, on to stadia. I'm not in possession of the facts, but how hard does the RFL back clubs who are attempting to get financing and planning permission for new stadiums? Surely it would be in the RFL's interest for new stadiums to be built? Not only can we present the game in modern stadia, which will help with the shedding of the flat cap and whippet image that I think the game is still labelled with in some quarters but it will also give us a choice of stadia for international and special event games (CC Semi's etc). Also new stadiums will generate more revenue for the clubs involved, both from increased corporate sponsership oppotunities as well as encouraging supporters, both home and away, to visit.
So that's my view. It's also what I've done today when I should have been working
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| Quote ="Roofaldo"I think whats needed for RL to progress in England is a larger player pool. And to get that it's a long, hard road and it starts at grass roots level. Getting the game played in schools. This is something that a lot of RL clubs do already (community projects and the like) but really there needs to be more insentive to get school kids to want to carry on and try to attain professional level. Which is where the RFL need to step in.
Francising is there to try and improve the professionalism of the sport off the field and to mean clubs don't have to try and buy success/survival and can blood youngsters. However, I think a re-think on salary cap regarding young players is long over due.
Now I'm not upto speed on current salary cap rules and I'm sure someone will correct me on this but is the current cap £1.8m and include both 1st team and juniors? If so, this really needs to be looked at. Bradford are guilty as any of allowing junior development to fall by the wayside infavour of short term gains for the 1st team and we're currently experiencing the backlash of that.
However, I think that clubs should be rewarded for increasing the player pool and developing youngsters, but I think that a monopoly on young players at a single club should be avoided which is why I think that something along the lines of a 25% exemption of the salary cap for players under 23 who've come through the club ranks would be adequate. This gives clubs an incentive to produce players and keep them on the books til they're at least 23 as some players bloom later than others.
Now, while the drawbridge is up on SL, I don't think SL clubs should completely ignore NL1 and NL2 clubs. Infact, it may be benifical to both parties to forge links between clubs, a practice I believe most NRL clubs employ. It allows young potential stars 1st team rugby at a level that's slightly above their current playing level and it helps lower league clubs in strengthening their positions within their respective leagues.
But the RFL need to increase their own influence within the sporting community. A main problem is how the game of RL is percieved. Now, I'm not saying a lot of sports journos are a little bias but it does seem to come across that way. So, instead of sabre rattling at the media, we need to bring them on side. VIP invites to RL events, free food, free booze and we'll soon have a few new friends in the redtops. Now, as for TV, that might be a little harder. However, SL and the RFL need to get together and sort out a strategy for getting more RL on the box. There's only 2 SL games on a week. That's 2 out of 7 and there's only 1 NL1 game per week!! I don't think going to Satanta is the solution as that's a channel that only reaches a limited audience. We need to get ourselves onto terrestrial channels. Or at the very least free to air channels. If you flick round on Sky there's a lot of special interest channels popping up for things like religion, low budget movies, even professional wrestling. So why not an RL channel? It wouldn't need a huge budget for the programming, and it would enable people to not only watch the game (there's got to be some deal that can be struck for classic matches, ESPN classic shows them!!) but profiles of clubs, programs on the history of the sport and explaination of the rules so that people new to the sport can understand it. After all, if you don't understand a game it can seem confusing and possibly uninteresting.
Now, on to stadia. I'm not in possession of the facts, but how hard does the RFL back clubs who are attempting to get financing and planning permission for new stadiums? Surely it would be in the RFL's interest for new stadiums to be built? Not only can we present the game in modern stadia, which will help with the shedding of the flat cap and whippet image that I think the game is still labelled with in some quarters but it will also give us a choice of stadia for international and special event games (CC Semi's etc). Also new stadiums will generate more revenue for the clubs involved, both from increased corporate sponsership oppotunities as well as encouraging supporters, both home and away, to visit.
So that's my view. It's also what I've done today when I should have been working'" The first £3k juniors earn doesn't count against the salary cap.
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| Quote ="Tiger Beer"You would have been better off at work
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I'm at work. I'm just not doing much
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| Quote ="Roofaldo":15xh2427I'm at work. I'm just not doing much
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[Roofaldo's boss modeMaybe not the most diplomatic of things to say when there are an increasing number of people who are not, through no choice of their own, who would dearly like to be? [/RB Mode'"
I should point out I work for norwich union and am facing redundancy.
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| Quote ="cieranblonde"Its all well and good having these opinions but until things change with the popularity of the sport nationally it's never ever ever going to happen.
Good use of time tho'"
so you missed the part where i talk about encouraging a more favorable position with the media?
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| Quote ="Roofaldo"I should point out I work for norwich union and am facing redundancy.'"
Hopefully the house insurance I've just taken out with you will help. It's about a days wages.
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| Quote ="Roofaldo"so you missed the part where i talk about encouraging a more favorable position with the media?'"
IMO the only thing that will expand the game is positive media spin. Sadly, the media is so Londoncentric I can't see it happening. At the moment F1 is the media's darling - a sport to rival yawnion in the Emperor's New Clothes category - in newspapers & on TV. Viewing figures are, reportedly, rocketing. People watch it because they think they should watch it. Other sports also do not have to contend with the old boy network still with its stereotypical view of RL.
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| Quote ="tigertot"IMO the only thing that will expand the game is positive media spin. Sadly, the media is so Londoncentric I can't see it happening. At the moment F1 is the media's darling - a sport to rival yawnion in the Emperor's New Clothes category - in newspapers & on TV. Viewing figures are, reportedly, rocketing. People watch it because they think they should watch it. Other sports also do not have to contend with the old boy network still with its stereotypical view of RL.'"
... I thought it was bad enough that we have to compete with Union for column inches ... competing with F1!! Maybe the track should be reinstated at Odsal and the stock car racing brought back
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| Quote ="tigertot"Hopefully the house insurance I've just taken out with you will help. It's about a days wages.'"
Wow, that must be cheap insurance
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| Quote ="Roofaldo"Wow, that must be cheap insurance
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Or I'm overpaid.....
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| Quote ="tigertot"IMO the only thing that will expand the game is positive media spin. Sadly, the media is so Londoncentric I can't see it happening. .'"
I turned on Sky Sports this morning and was greeted with that usual scrolling matrix at the bottom of the screen that gets to rugby league news and they then have adverts. This morning however I was lucky and as I red about succcessful cricket teams, Andy Murrays continuing sucess, competition for places in the lions squad etc I though to myself "I wonder what it will say about League, its the Magic Weekend this weekend."
When it did get to rugby league news the first story that came up was about Leon Price being given a formal warning for assualt. the second page of this story went on to describe how he had previous for assault.
What will the next page bring........
Oh; Catalans Captain guilty of lying to police and wounding girlfriend. This brings up yet another story of one of elite players and his off field antics. And so the Sky sports scrolling thing moves on to athletics news. Oh teh Joy....I get annoyed and turn on the local news:
Im met with: Queens v Doncaster RL match....Police are looking for these people. A photo fit of 10 or so people who are wanted for brawling at a match appears.
Is it any wonder we're not improving out games image???? its everyone in RL's responsibility to try and give it the best image possible however im said to say that a few are spoiling it for everyone. Some of those few being top earners in our game and role models. Im a fan of the magic weekend, and whilst I know alot of people see it as a gimic and extra travelling and expense etc and i fully appreciate that and in most cases sympathise. What we have to realise however is that the RFL are trying an innovative and brave step to try and broaden who can watch our game.........This has been lost in the media however because of negative press regarding some of our games stars. This weekend should be bang in the media spotlight, but its not. And im afraid thats how I see it for the forseeable future.......Bad Publicity will always get the nod no matter how much good we try and do.
Without the dilution of bad publicity that the likes of football can enjoy (So many teams that the bad news is outweighed by the good and other news) RL needs to make an effort to be on its best behaviour. Thats all the way up from fans, right to the top and to the RFl. Without that we don't stand a chance....
Oh...And Sack Jonathan Edwards. the fact that the only rugby league on terrestrial has that little see you next tuesday on is not a good thing.
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| Quote ="SDB" Snip.'"
I do wonder how much news RL marketing put out, I see Metro most days on the train. We are lucky to get a paragraph. The paranoid cycnic in me thinks this is part of the grand right-wing plot of Metro's owners in collusion with other media editors to starve us of the oxygen of publicity. Similarly the concentration of negative news stories about RL. We are a working class sport who wears its heart on its sleeve, we give plenty of opportunities to our detractors. However, compare us with how lightly yawnion got off when Dick Best said "You've got to have a coloured boy in your team".
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| Quote ="tigertot"However, compare us with how lightly yawnion got off when Dick Best said "You've got to have a coloured boy in your team".'"
When was this?
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| Quote ="Bullseye"icon_eek.gif
When was this?'"
If you google him at work, make sure you click news and not images.
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| Quote ="af"If you google him at work, make sure you click news and not images.'"
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| Quote ="Bullseye"icon_eek.gif
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A week or so back. I'm sure you've googled it by now. Obviously he was misunderstood in a Ron Atkinson stylee. Looking forward to Ray's new avatar.
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