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| probably right jock
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| Quote ="roger daily"yes thats the one
dont tell me you are fooled by that
would you really expect us to get up to the top 6 with him calling the shots
and dont let one decent performance cloud your judgement. lets look at the bigger picture'"
You're right, the fact he's our top try provider, that he's improving his game and growing into more of a leader every week should not detract from the bigger picture of you talking out of your backside
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| I'm sure I am not the only one who rates the credibility of this latest incarnation "roger daily" at around 1% of that of Dave Parker?
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| where do we get this idea from that everything is rosy in the garden, herbert has been there all season and he is below average, we all know this so after a decent performance we think hes the answer to our problems
get real everybody we are in 10th for a reason
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| Indeed.
And the blame can be laid at the door of quite a few whose performances this season have been well "below average".
It is either very unhealthy or very mischievous to single out one player.
And no-one is suggesting everything in the garden is rosy. It is of course very disingenuous - I will go as far as to say dishonest - to try and put words in peoples' mouths in that manner.
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| I realise statistics don't always tell the full story, but Marc Herbert is 5th in the entire Super League for try assists. He's created more tries than Kevin Sinfield, Lee Briers, or Michael Dobson.
So, we're going to get rid of him and bring in someone who has created less tries and is one of the worst players in the competition for missed tackles
I'd be happy to lose Herbert IF we can guarantee that he will be replaced by someone significantly better. But that someone is NOT Luke Gale
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| Quote ="roger daily"if we keep herbert for next season think the club have will have shown their intention we are happy to be fighting for 9th place for another season
we must sign a quality half back
luke gale is on his way so herbert has to go'"
Mmm, nah you'll have to come with a better reason than that....
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Indeed.
And the blame can be laid at the door of quite a few whose performances this season have been well "below average".
It is either very unhealthy or very mischievous to single out one player.'"
im not singling out one player, as i have said before, get rid of donaldson, crookes, platt, sykes, plus couple more
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| Quote ="Bulliac"Mmm, nah you'll have to come with a better reason than that....'"
im not saying gale is any better than herbert, im saying we have signed one half back, so if we are gonna sign a quailty one then herbert would have to make way
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| And how would you propose to get rid of players who are on longish contracts like Sykes and Platt? Given that the compo you would have to pay them would count under the next two years' salary caps, and thereby restrict our ability to sign replacements?
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| Adeybull Platt's runs out soon doesn't it??
And roger said I was talking poop hahahahaha Gale for Herbert your having a laugh??? Get rid of a average halfback for an even worse stand off which we have 2/3 of? You are one daft git. Suppose you want to sign Worrincy back as well???
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| Quote ="Bulls Boy 2011"Adeybull Platt's runs out soon doesn't it??
And roger said I was talking poop hahahahaha Gale for Herbert your having a laugh??? Get rid of a average halfback for an even worse stand off which we have 2/3 of? You are one daft git. Suppose you want to sign Worrincy back as well???'"
idiot where have i said gale is better than herbert
read it right you tit
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| Well if we have signed Gale that must mean Herbert is to be released at the end of the season as Briggs and Jeffries are both contracted for next year. Unless Briggs goes early by mutual consent?
Dissapointing.
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| Gale for Herbert? Forget fighting for 10th we'll be bottom.
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| ok rd, what do you propose we need in a new half back?? you stated you preferred jeffries to herbert, why?
and who would you replace him with?
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| Quote ="roger daily"im not singling out one player, as i have said before, get rid of donaldson, crookes, platt, sykes, plus couple more'"
So say now that you have reduced the squad by 4 to 6 players, who would you replace them with that are better? Also bear in mind that some of the onse that you would get rid off are under contract, so even after paying them off still count towards the cap.
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| herbert is too slow, jeffries takes the line on,is that good enough to start with
and bulls boy read in full before you type garbage
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| Quote ="Adeybull"I'm sure I am not the only one who rates the credibility of this latest incarnation "roger daily" at around 1% of that of Dave Parker?'"
not at all, he's quite good at fetching a few nibbles though.
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| mate your talking out your on 2 threads. You have no fecking idea at all.
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| its a start, but hopefully you have a little more than that or is that the only reason he s better.
obv defence, kicking, passing are all overated attributes for a half back?
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| Quote ="roger daily"im not singling out one player, as i have said before, get rid of donaldson, crookes, platt, sykes, plus couple more'"
Yes you are.
Quote ="roger daily"if we keep herbert for next season think the club have will have shown their intention we are happy to be fighting for 9th place for another season
we must sign a quality half back
luke gale is on his way so herbert has to go'"
What's that if it's not singling out a player? Add to the fact that you then go on about getting rid of other players who are under contract, thus putting the Bulls in a weaker position as we'd be 4 players shorter next year and still have their salaries cutting a wedge out of our salary cap all goes to show what an idiot you are. Especially as your original point gets blown out the water so you start back peddling to try and get yourself out of the idiot hole you've dug for your self.
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| Quote ="roger daily"im not saying gale is any better than herbert, im saying we have signed one half back, so if we are gonna sign a quailty one then herbert would have to make way'"
If we sign a half, my guess would be a (hopefully) quality, specialist no.7, since we have Jeffries and Briggs on longer contracts it may well be Herbert, who is OOC at the end of the year, who goes, especially as he is on quota. That depends on a signing being made though, and obviously who is available. Whether Potter decides to go with what we have is the joker in the pack, my thoughts being that he probably won't, but again, it will quite probably depend, to a large extent, on who of the right quality and price, is available.
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| Quote ="Roofaldo"Yes you are.
What's that if it's not singling out a player? Add to the fact that you then go on about getting rid of other players who are under contract, thus putting the Bulls in a weaker position as we'd be 4 players shorter next year and still have their salaries cutting a wedge out of our salary cap all goes to show what an idiot you are. Especially as your original point gets blown out the water so you start back peddling to try and get yourself out of the idiot hole you've dug for your self.'"
where have i back peddled bum face
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| and those who are saying they are under contract, wasnt dave halley under contract,players do move even though they are still in contract
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| Quote ="Bulls Boy 2011"mate your talking out your booty on 2 threads. You have no fecking idea at all.'"
suppose playing for dudley hill thunderbirds makes you qualified
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