a) purchasing the leasehold at Odsal - why did they do it really?, what was the due diligence?, did they know or had they even considered the ramifications such a decision would have on the club and their credit position?

The answer to this is very simple.
The RFL had lent peter hood £750k which they were in danger of losing if the club went bust.
So by paying an additional 450k and spinning it as they did they covered their a***s

I know it was agreed ago back when we still had daylight at 8:00 pm but as Mark Sawyer said at the fans' forum - no one was willing to step in and save the club, and with the deal to move to Dewsbury in jeopardy IF the club ended up in administration, then you can see why Mark has stepped in on albeit in an advisory capacity.

Eric Perez is doing a lot of the day to day running through Tracey and Paul until the club finds a chief executive.

Did anyone in here seriously want the club to go under for a fifth time? I'd be surprised if that was the case.

Quote ="bulls2487"=#0000BF[iThe club was already liquidated when Thorne came to an agreement with the administrator[/i, he created a new business in Jan 2017. Like I said a bit of research helps'" That's actually somewhat of a fallacy, bulls2487. The truth is that it was Nigel Wood who on 3 January 2017 mistakenly announced to the press and media c/o a bogus press release that Marc Green's BBNL was 'liquidated' (see below): https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/38418199 The truth is that BBNL entered into liquidation in February 2017, as evidenced on Companies House website. Everbody fell for the RFL's (or in reality Nigel's) charade. Worse still the RFL, and in particular Nigel, elected not to correct their blatant error. Why was this? Because it paved the way to allow the RFL's (and Nigel's) chosen one, Chalmers, to very shortly thereafter be gift wrapped the club, its remaining assets and an operating licence for zilch, and for BB17 to be incorporated on 13 January 2017. Given our RFL insider connection, 'we' have 100% proof of the above, but have been advised at this stage not to upload it on to a public forum. A court of law would be a far better place to make such a disclosure. Moreover, with the benefit of litigation privilege then 'we' would be suitably protected in respect of such disclosure and related assertions as part of for example any possible anticipated legal proceedings! Regardless of the above legal mumbo jumbo, the fact is that what happended to the Bulls, in particular towards the end of Marc Green's reign, was to all intents and purposes a scandal, and to date we have only hinted at circa 20% of the truth in this regard.

Quote ="bulls2487"=#0000BF[iThe club was already liquidated when Thorne came to an agreement with the administrator[/i, he created a new business in Jan 2017. Like I said a bit of research helps'" That's actually somewhat of a fallacy, bulls2487. The truth is that it was Nigel Wood who on 3 January 2017 mistakenly announced to the press and media c/o a bogus press release that Marc Green's BBNL was 'liquidated' (see below): https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/38418199 The truth is that BBNL entered into liquidation in February 2017, as evidenced on Companies House website. Everbody fell for the RFL's (or in reality Nigel's) charade. Worse still the RFL, and in particular Nigel, elected not to correct their blatant error. Why was this? Because it paved the way to allow the RFL's (and Nigel's) chosen one, Chalmers, to very shortly thereafter be gift wrapped the club, its remaining assets and an operating licence for zilch, and for BB17 to be incorporated on 13 January 2017. Given our RFL insider connection, 'we' have 100% proof of the above, but have been advised at this stage not to upload it on to a public forum. A court of law would be a far better place to make such a disclosure. Moreover, with the benefit of litigation privilege then 'we' would be suitably protected in respect of such disclosure and related assertions as part of for example any possible anticipated legal proceedings! Regardless of the above legal mumbo jumbo, the fact is that what happended to the Bulls, in particular towards the end of Marc Green's reign, was to all intents and purposes a scandal, and to date we have only hinted at circa 20% of the truth in this regard.

Well said - you've encapsulated everything that needs to be done.

Question C was answered by Ken Jones on the full eighty minutes last year after the Shane Spencer scandal.

Quote ="nestegg"That's actually somewhat of a fallacy, bulls2487. The truth is that it was Nigel Wood who on 3 January 2017 mistakenly announced to the press and media c/o a bogus press release that Marc Green's BBNL was 'liquidated' (see below): https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/38418199 The truth is that BBNL entered into liquidation in February 2017, as evidenced on Companies House website. Everbody fell for the RFL's (or in reality Nigel's) charade. Worse still the RFL, and in particular Nigel, elected not to correct their blatant error. Why was this? Because it paved the way to allow the RFL's (and Nigel's) chosen one, Chalmers, to very shortly thereafter be gift wrapped the club, its remaining assets and an operating licence for zilch, and for BB17 to be incorporated on 13 January 2017. Given our RFL insider connection, 'we' have 100% proof of the above, but have been advised at this stage not to upload it on to a public forum. A court of law would be a far better place to make such a disclosure. Moreover, with the benefit of litigation privilege then 'we' would be suitably protected in respect of such disclosure and related assertions as part of for example any possible anticipated legal proceedings! Regardless of the above legal mumbo jumbo, the fact is that what happended to the Bulls, in particular towards the end of Marc Green's reign, was to all intents and purposes a scandal, and to date we have only hinted at circa 20% of the truth in this regard.'" Thats why the TUPE was invoked which cost the Club and Sod Hall money and also the chance to stay up because of the Players and Staff being refused it and then having to go to a tribunal!

Quote ="nestegg"That's actually somewhat of a fallacy, bulls2487. The truth is that it was Nigel Wood who on 3 January 2017 mistakenly announced to the press and media c/o a bogus press release that Marc Green's BBNL was 'liquidated' (see below): https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/38418199 The truth is that BBNL entered into liquidation in February 2017, as evidenced on Companies House website. Everbody fell for the RFL's (or in reality Nigel's) charade. Worse still the RFL, and in particular Nigel, elected not to correct their blatant error. Why was this? Because it paved the way to allow the RFL's (and Nigel's) chosen one, Chalmers, to very shortly thereafter be gift wrapped the club, its remaining assets and an operating licence for zilch, and for BB17 to be incorporated on 13 January 2017. Given our RFL insider connection, 'we' have 100% proof of the above, but have been advised at this stage not to upload it on to a public forum. A court of law would be a far better place to make such a disclosure. Moreover, with the benefit of litigation privilege then 'we' would be suitably protected in respect of such disclosure and related assertions as part of for example any possible anticipated legal proceedings! Regardless of the above legal mumbo jumbo, the fact is that what happended to the Bulls, in particular towards the end of Marc Green's reign, was to all intents and purposes a scandal, and to date we have only hinted at circa 20% of the truth in this regard.'" Thats why the TUPE was invoked which cost the Club and Sod Hall money and also the chance to stay up because of the Players and Staff being refused it and then having to go to a tribunal!

Some changes have been made to the list of directors on Companies House website. Mark Kilgallon and Sandra Wood are now shown as being active, The Orcas Rugby League Ltd has resigned, but Andrew Chalmers is shown as still being a director.

and The Orcas are still the person with significant control.

Good and valid questions.

We may have had our differences of opinion in the past, but let's' try to get on to the same page moving forward.

A brief answer to your 3 queries as quoted above is as follows:

a) Odsal land grab.

b) All except AC were chosen because the RFL had a strong hunch or desire that they would fail, or if they didn't terminally fail, then the RFL hierarchy (Wood, RR and Moorhouse) knew that they could craftily impose fines, withhold central funding etc and consequently the owner incarnations of Hood, then OK, then Green would be thrown under a bus c/o the RFL. This is NOT a conspiracy theory; it's based on facts that we have to hand, and they will be released in to the public arena within say the next 4-6 weeks, and/or passed on to a truly independent body as part of a fair and thorough 'investigation'. In summary over the past 8 years it is alleged that the RFL and Wood have been doing their utmost to stop the Bulls being successful. Why?; see a) above.

c) Up to circa mid 2017 we understand that the RFL's fit and proper person test (FPPT) only vetted a pending owner's business background/ dealings in the UK geographic region. That conveniently meant that AC's failed businesses etc in the ANZAC region were not accounted for. According to one of our RFL insiders the FPPT rules have changed since. Regardless, the FPPT process adopted by the RFL is allegedly a sham and has for the main part been based upon wholly subjective and partial decisions. For example AC's FPPT was signed off by AC's friend - NW.

Trust is thin on the ground.

Things need to change, and we are reasonably confident that they will. Watch this space !

Charles c/o the NEC.

Agree completely with that.

I've nothing against expansion, the more the better, to be honest, but the Euro/Nth American league should be a separate division from our domestic league, all be it with some of our better teams involved. If the overseas clubs 'take over' our domestic league it will kill the game in the UK.

Instead of hanging onto the information for an independent enquiry why don't you release the information into the public field. Perhaps that would then force an ennquiry.

Changed now to BBBBB LTD.

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Interesting that "Nestegg Bulls RL" has just been added. And the main director is listed as none other than Bruce Craig, the multi-millionaire owner of Bath Rugby! None of that is true. Or is it?! No.

Bulls' biennial bankruptcy becoming boring

At least you'll not need to run the fantasy league in 2020. Every cloud....

Not quite....both BBBBB LTD and the Orcas are shown as PWSC and both as owning 75% or more of shares or voting rights? BBBBB has 2 officers: Kimberely Stather (sole shareholder) and Charlotte Louise Monkman. Not sure where Wood fits in all this?

Quote ="nestegg"That's actually somewhat of a fallacy, bulls2487. The truth is that it was Nigel Wood who on 3 January 2017 mistakenly announced to the press and media c/o a bogus press release that Marc Green's BBNL was 'liquidated' (see below): https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/38418199 The truth is that BBNL entered into liquidation in February 2017, as evidenced on Companies House website. Everbody fell for the RFL's (or in reality Nigel's) charade. Worse still the RFL, and in particular Nigel, elected not to correct their blatant error. Why was this? Because it paved the way to allow the RFL's (and Nigel's) chosen one, Chalmers, to very shortly thereafter be gift wrapped the club, its remaining assets and an operating licence for zilch, and for BB17 to be incorporated on 13 January 2017. Given our RFL insider connection, 'we' have 100% proof of the above, but have been advised at this stage not to upload it on to a public forum. A court of law would be a far better place to make such a disclosure. Moreover, with the benefit of litigation privilege then 'we' would be suitably protected in respect of such disclosure and related assertions as part of for example any possible anticipated legal proceedings! Regardless of the above legal mumbo jumbo, the fact is that what happended to the Bulls, in particular towards the end of Marc Green's reign, was to all intents and purposes a scandal, and to date we have only hinted at circa 20% of the truth in this regard.'" Thanks Nestegg (first on here im guessing) has a bit of a chip on his shoulder at times

Quote ="nestegg"That's actually somewhat of a fallacy, bulls2487. The truth is that it was Nigel Wood who on 3 January 2017 mistakenly announced to the press and media c/o a bogus press release that Marc Green's BBNL was 'liquidated' (see below): https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/38418199 The truth is that BBNL entered into liquidation in February 2017, as evidenced on Companies House website. Everbody fell for the RFL's (or in reality Nigel's) charade. Worse still the RFL, and in particular Nigel, elected not to correct their blatant error. Why was this? Because it paved the way to allow the RFL's (and Nigel's) chosen one, Chalmers, to very shortly thereafter be gift wrapped the club, its remaining assets and an operating licence for zilch, and for BB17 to be incorporated on 13 January 2017. Given our RFL insider connection, 'we' have 100% proof of the above, but have been advised at this stage not to upload it on to a public forum. A court of law would be a far better place to make such a disclosure. Moreover, with the benefit of litigation privilege then 'we' would be suitably protected in respect of such disclosure and related assertions as part of for example any possible anticipated legal proceedings! Regardless of the above legal mumbo jumbo, the fact is that what happended to the Bulls, in particular towards the end of Marc Green's reign, was to all intents and purposes a scandal, and to date we have only hinted at circa 20% of the truth in this regard.'" Thanks Nestegg (first on here im guessing) has a bit of a chip on his shoulder at times

Wonder if she's related to the recent University Challenge legend. Or maybe she's a really poor superhero...


On a more serious note, a quick google shows that Ms. Monkman actually used to have what appears to be a H.R. style role at the RFL. Edit: Never mind, found it. She was Ralph Rimmer's P.A. and is now Secretary of BBBBBBBBB Ltd [urlhttps://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/steve-prescott-man-of-steel-petition-handed-to-rfl/[/url

Surprisingly your not a milion miles away Pumpety ..... you're a smart cookie with an excellent sense of humour. So may we politefully suggest that you don your best thinking hat .... and who knows you might get it right ! Another obscure clue ..... [iEngland[/i.

As for BBBBB Ltd it's based out of what appears to be a Council House; nowt wrong with that, but when Charles paid a visit to the property at lunchtime he got a surprisingly hostile reception .....

Yeah. It looks like she works for a company called Global Rugby League Solutions Ltd. who has one officer: Ms. Wendy Wood.

Popular surname that is, at the moment...

How dare you infer that Ralph's (former?) PA is involved with Nigel Wood and the Bulls c/o BB17 - scandalous

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He's lucky to have found a council house in East Bierley.....