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Another 12 months for Wellens.
1. Jonny Lomax, 2. Thomas Makinson, 3. Jordan Turner, 4. Josh Jones, 5. Adam Swift, 6. Travis Burns, 7. Luke Walsh, 8. Mose Masoe, 9. James Roby, 10. Kyle Amor, 11. Atelea Vea, 12. Jon Wilkin, 13. Louie McCarthy-Scarsbrook, 14. Alex Walmsley, 15. Mark Flanagan, 16. Lance Hohaia, 17. Mark Percival, 18. Luke Thompson, 19. Greg Richards, 20. Paul Wellens, 21. Joe Greenwood, 22. Matty Dawson, 23. Anthony Walker, 24. Jordan Hand, 25. Andre Savelio, 26. Lewis Charnock, 27. Dave Hewitt, 28. Jack Ashworth, 29. Olly Davies, 30. Matty Fleming, 31. Matty Fozard.
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Another 12 months for Wellens.
1. Jonny Lomax, 2. Thomas Makinson, 3. Jordan Turner, 4. Josh Jones, 5. Adam Swift, 6. Travis Burns, 7. Luke Walsh, 8. Mose Masoe, 9. James Roby, 10. Kyle Amor, 11. Atelea Vea, 12. Jon Wilkin, 13. Louie McCarthy-Scarsbrook, 14. Alex Walmsley, 15. Mark Flanagan, 16. Lance Hohaia, 17. Mark Percival, 18. Luke Thompson, 19. Greg Richards, 20. Paul Wellens, 21. Joe Greenwood, 22. Matty Dawson, 23. Anthony Walker, 24. Jordan Hand, 25. Andre Savelio, 26. Lewis Charnock, 27. Dave Hewitt, 28. Jack Ashworth, 29. Olly Davies, 30. Matty Fleming, 31. Matty Fozard.
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That is a very strong "top 20" players with good potential in the remaining numbers.
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If thats relating to some sort of "pecking order" then Percival for me deserves a no 3 or 4 number.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"If thats relating to some sort of "pecking order" then Percival for me deserves a no 3 or 4 number.'"
I agree he should be our first choice centre. Maybe it's the clubs way of keeping the pressure off him and/or motivating him to overtake Jones and Turner.
Having said that I think he will start pretty much every week he is fit. In terms of our strongest 17 I would take out Jones and Flanagan from the "top 17" and replace them with Richards and Thompson. |
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Where do 26 - 31 play
27. Hewitt is an half back is all i know?
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| Quote ="Judder Man"If thats relating to some sort of "pecking order" then Percival for me deserves a no 3 or 4 number.'"
Percy is a right sided centre and was never gonna overtake Turner after the end of this season ... I'm sure he'll get plenty of game time though
Interesting list, after 1-13 it seems pretty random, but based on merit ... I'll be interested to see Hand a bit more this season, and the reason we kept him over Forster. Hopefully a few more kids can poke their way through  |
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| Quote ="Rommel"Where do 26 - 31 play
27. Hewitt is an half back is all i know?'"
26. Lewis Charnock - Originally played at half back but then had stints at 1 and 13 before finishing the season at 9.
28. Jack Ashworth - Centre/2nd rower
29. Olly Davies - 2nd rower
30. Matty Fleming - Centre
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"26. Lewis Charnock - Originally played at half back but then had stints at 1 and 13 before finishing the season at 9.
28. Jack Ashworth - Centre/2nd rower
29. Olly Davies - 2nd rower
30. Matty Fleming - Centre
31. Matty Fozard.- Officially a hooker but weirdly has also played prop and also at 13.'"
Thought Davies had played prop as well?
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| Quote ="Magic Superbeetle"Thought Davies had played prop as well?
We don't seem to need a centre with that list!
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"www.saintsrlfc.com/news/page/4528
Another 12 months for Wellens.
1. Jonny Lomax, 2. Thomas Makinson, 3. Jordan Turner, 4. Josh Jones, 5. Adam Swift, 6. Travis Burns, 7. Luke Walsh, 8. Mose Masoe, 9. James Roby, 10. Kyle Amor, 11. Atelea Vea, 12. Jon Wilkin, 13. Louie McCarthy-Scarsbrook, 14. Alex Walmsley, 15. Mark Flanagan, 16. Lance Hohaia, 17. Mark Percival, 18. Luke Thompson, 19. Greg Richards, 20. Paul Wellens, 21. Joe Greenwood, 22. Matty Dawson, 23. Anthony Walker, 24. Jordan Hand, 25. Andre Savelio, 26. Lewis Charnock, 27. Dave Hewitt, 28. Jack Ashworth, 29. Olly Davies, 30. Matty Fleming, 31. Matty Fozard.'"
No surprises there and I guess all the rumours of us signing someone else were just speculative. For me one big forward short of winning a trophy next season. We need a big angry Samoan to top things off IMO. |
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"Yeah Davies has played prop too mate.'"
Not at under 19 level he hasn't. He had a very good second half of last season. |
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| Quote ="Saddened!"No surprises there and I guess all the rumours of us signing someone else were just speculative. For me one big forward short of winning a trophy next season. We need a big angry Samoan to top things off IMO.'"
I think were a good quality prop away from dominating the league 2006 style. The above squad is good enough to replicate this years achievements, but probably with the same rollercoaster ride!
Since we still have a chunk of cap space it can be used to keep what we have and add to it next year so it can only be good |
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| Quote ="jonnythesaint"Not at under 19 level he hasn't. He had a very good second half of last season.'"
He has mate. I've seen him play there myself. |
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"He has mate. I've seen him play there myself.'"
Well it must have been in the one academy game I missed last year, because he was ever present in the second row in all season long, playing 80 minutes in most, if not all, games. He's a good lad. |
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"He has mate. I've seen him play there myself.'"
I thought he'd played a few at prop this year as well, but i've just looked through all the reports from the u19s this year and he's named at second row in them all. |
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| Quote ="SecondRowSaint"I thought he'd played a few at prop this year as well, but i've just looked through all the reports from the u19s this year and he's named at second row in them all.'"
He's moved to prop during games I meant sorry. Twice I've been there and he has moved to prop to cover someone going off. |
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If Wellens' wages are stopping us from adding another forward to that squad, then that is annoying. Was made for him to retire after OT.
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| Quote ="Carlos Alberto"If Wellens' wages are stopping us from adding another forward to that squad, then that is annoying. Was made for him to retire after OT.'"
We have cap space, but for whatever reason we just aren't going for another forward. I think we could even afford the winger we were after (and he was on a lot!) but we decided it wasn't worth it (rightfully so)
Our lack of recruitment is by choice at this point, I can only hope it's because we have a plan for next year (keeping Walsh/ Masoe/ Jones) and targeting some of the quality available, as there's quite a few very good players available next year imo... |
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| Quote ="Magic Superbeetle"We have cap space, but for whatever reason we just aren't going for another forward. I think we could even afford the winger we were after (and he was on a lot!) but we decided it wasn't worth it (rightfully so)
Our lack of recruitment is by choice at this point, I can only hope it's because we have a plan for next year (keeping Walsh/ Masoe/ Jones) and targeting some of the quality available, as there's quite a few very good players available next year imo...'"
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How do you know we have cap space???
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Decent squad. We look better placed than last season I think in terms of depth looking at the numbers. Variables tho with a new head coach and attacking coach....
Just looking at other team's squads and the wolfs squad is the most competitive on paper.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"How do you know we have cap space???'"
We do definitely have space. We were looking to sign another back but a deal fell through.
We have room under the cap to move mid-season if something comes up. |
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"We do definitely have space. We were looking to sign another back but a deal fell through.
We have room under the cap to move mid-season if something comes up.'"
Sounds like a more sensible option as we have no obvious gaps.
A lot of people on here want a prop but we have several young props that could come through and give us too many options in that area.
We could go after a back (a winger according to the St.Helens secret handshake society) but we have plenty of cover there too and our first choice line up is pretty settled.
If someone comes up mid-season a lot of clubs will be up the cap and out of the running. |
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| Quote ="Noel Cleal"Sounds like a more sensible option as we have no obvious gaps.
A lot of people on here want a prop but we have several young props that could come through and give us too many options in that area.
We could go after a back (a winger according to the St.Helens secret handshake society) but we have plenty of cover there too and our first choice line up is pretty settled.
If someone comes up mid-season a lot of clubs will be up the cap and out of the running.'"
It's a nice position to be in where we can move for someone during the season should we be hit by injuries in a particular position or some NRL star disgraces themselves and needs a club over here |
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"It's a nice position to be in where we can move for someone during the season should we be hit by injuries in a particular position or some NRL star disgraces themselves and needs a club over here
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