I don't know why but I've got a sneaky feeling that our game on Thursday against London will end up being a close call. Brown should put our first choice 17 out, but I suspect we will see a makeshift team similar to Widnes last week, and as a result, London will prove to be a tougher test than the table suggests. We really do need to wrack up some points, not only for confidence, but because the league positions could come down to points difference at the back end of the season.

If Brown shafts us again with a weakened team selection for what could be important home game, will you feel short changed as a season ticket holder?

I think he will pick a strong team but suspect Walsh, Amor and the pansy (turner) won't play.

Walsh obviously has done his elbow.

Amor played with rib damage and now facing a long spell out with his knee.

Pansy (turner) chipped a nail.


I think we will beat London by a decent score but the bulls will beat us the following week.

Agree, he will put out his strongest team thats available, I'm hoping Brown does make a statement and drop LMS and Turner though.

Why was Lance not in the 17 yesterday was he injured or just not selected, I'm hoping it wasn.t the latter.

I believe injured but up to Thursday dinner he was in at 6.

yep, big game confidence wise. We could do with racking up a big score, i'd settle for a win and not dropping the ball on the first carry!

I can't see a big score but if we did, certain people will be spouting "we're back" etc.


A win is a must as I think we will lose the following week.

Our goal in the next two games should be to physically bully London and Bradford. We need to set out to make those games horrible experiences for our opposition. If we do that the score will look after itself.

You're predicting we'll lose against Bradford? We're not that bad!

Yes. These games are a test of attitude and will to win now. We have nothing left but the league, so every league game is now our sole purpose. Doing "just enough" to win is not acceptable. This is where Saints should be demonstrating that they have the ruthlessness to put teams to the sword, and keep stabbing the corpse.

Point difference might well decide play-off placings come the end of the year. London and Bradford are terrible. We should be racking up very large scores against them, or there really will have to be questions asked about the players' commitment and desire to win.

Currently Bulls are weaker than we are at London? it should be a walk in the park both matches, Saints need to do what they are good at that is all, they don't need to be nasty or hard! 80 plus score lines do the game no good, even if it is the points difference that counts.

Yep I think we could possibly lose at the bulls. The Wigan game will have give them a kick up the backside, they are bringing in a few loan players and I bet they really fancy it against us.

We are a team you'd look forward to playing against as we are so soft.

I bet they dont! It'd be a massive shock if we don't win by a good margin

Best Catalan today and lee Gaskell apparently was very good.

well thats his one game for the year then!

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if we lose to the bulls. Any team that attacks and has enough ball will trouble is as he can't tackle, in fact, we don't want to tackle.

Put a fiver on bradford, you'll get very good odds! but you'll lose your money

Think I'll do that, if the odds are good I'll put £10 on it.

I wouldn't be the first person who's associated with saints to bet against them at the bulls

I know! thought you'd like that!

put a grand on the bulls like they did!

I would back us to beat landan by 10-20. Wello and wilkin in this trott are really important.

We will think about the bulls after that

If you're right again then I'm out.

We haven't got any really important games now until September.

Thursday's game is simply about winning and restoring a bit of confidence. I'm confident we'll win our next 2 games fairly comfortably even with our dodgy form.

We will beat London.

I'm not so sure on the bulls game. They beat Catalan who are in good form.

I'm no longer confident about winning any games.

I'd like to know how we got to looking like the disorganised rabble on display at Headingley from the team that rocked up at the Halliwell Jones a couple of months back. Really, really disappointing.

Who cares, it's only two points.

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