Just wondering how people are going to react as a result of the poor season we have had.

Are you waiting to see how we finish the season or will our new signings (Penrith) for next year encourage you to go for a season ticket renewal.

Performances at home this season have been poor, generally. So I can understand a drop off, but I think there is a lot to be positive about next season. I don't think I would ever not renew purely because of performance though.

I will be renewing, but I'm moving from the West to the South so I am waiting for seats to be up for grabs first.

I'll be renewing, it'd have to get a lot worse than this season for me not to.

unlikely I'll renew but thats because I've got to watch the pennies for the next few months. I might consider asking for one for xmas

Got my letter re my 5yr deal last week, so im sorted!

I'm renewing, moved from West to South this season, and it's been much better, don't have to turn up so early to make sure my lad can see, and I am optimistic, as always, for next season

About 10 games in I thought I might not bother , but the 2 new players from the NRL and the crop of young players like Percival, Thompson etc I,ve decided to renew.

Got mine, back to the West from the North this year.

I'll probably have mine bought for me, but I'd hope to see some better signings to show that the club actually care about winning trophies. We're a stand off and prop short still.

I agree, I'd like to see us get shut of Laffranchi and Hohaia and replace them with some quality but I have a horrible feeling we might have to make do with a standoff at best.

I can't because of starting university, but it's heartening that a few of my friends who have attended games with me have opted to get a season ticket in the west next year because they enjoy the experienceicon_smile.gif

Uni runs from the end of September to may, so that's no excuse

Ha ha true but have to miss the first few games so will just pay on the gate for the games that I can attendicon_smile.gif)

Go watch your soon to be local club whilst you're at uni. Take some of your newly made pals there that may not have seen the sport too. I did that with 2 geordies, a manc and a brummie and they all loved it.

I'll renew but I'm not very excited for 2014 yet. We need few more players and with the exception of Walsh, I don't think the squad is better for 2014.

But not worse then

Perry is easily replaced, we could replace him with a young Lad who plays more than 20 mins and can do half the games in the season then we on a winner.

Meli will be tough to replace. I'm happy for him to go if we replace him with better but I doubt we will.

TP isn't great these days but he's still very important on and off the field. He can break tackles and has good pair of hands. When TP is on form he's devastating. Again, I'm happy to let him go if we can
Replace with better but I don't think we will.

Our backs don't fill me with excitement and I think we will struggle at prop.

I think we have already replaced him with better in Swift.

But Meli has been swifts Centre

Can Swift cover centre ?

Swift looks a great prospect but I never get carried away with youngsters until the end of their 2nd season and swift ain't had one full season yet.

I'm sure you can recall the theads of our team for the future, the "golden generation". Matty ashurst, Dixon, foster, Gaskell, tyrer etc hahaha

I think we'll be in much better shape next season.

Brown will have a better idea of his team next season as he's figured out where players are best suited e.g. Lomax, Jones, LMS etc whereas this season he was still trying to figure things out along with dealing with the worst injury crisis I've ever seen at this club.

Meli is the only player I think we'll miss of the players leaving and I am a little concerned we're short at Centre. The others we won't miss as they have been poor all season or have barely played. TP is good on his day, but he hasn;t been anywhere near the same player as he was a couple of years ago. In Masoe we have a younger player who should fill that void quite comfortably. Add in that the younger props will be a year older and the addition of Beaumont and we look better up front next season. I'd like us to sign another prop but we're in better shape in that area.

Most importantly we have an actual half back with a kicking and goal kicking game. This immediately makes us stronger. I'm really looking forward to seeing Walsh in action, I think our wingers will score plenty of tries with his kicking and Lomax will receive plenty of good ball on the edges to cause problems.

We're short of a stand off, prop and centre but we'll be much improved next year and hopefully we won't lose Roby for 20 weeks of the season. He's been a big miss for us.

I agree with pretty much all of that.

The potential improvement as a result of having a half-back, a kicking game and a goal kicker can't be underestimated. We could do with a specialist 6 to run alongside him, and there's no sign of any meaningful back up (particularly if we're not keeping hold of Yates, as I've heard), so as it stands we'll be relying on Walsh staying fit all year, which is something of a gamble.

Having watched all of the Panthers games for the last couple of months I think Masoe will be a real breath of fresh air for us. He has his limitations but he really does change a game when he comes on. As has been discussed at length, though, we are short of a dependable, grafting front rower who can knock out 50-60 minutes a game. Maybe one of Richards/Thompson et al is earmarked for that sort of role, but they're all too young for us to be depending on them yet. Having said that, if Beaumont plays more than three matches this season and doesn't run for negative metres in each of them then he will be an improvement on Perry. I suspect we'll start to see Andre Savelio in the first team next season (I think he would have been in this year were it not for illness and injury). Given the size of him he just might be the kind of youngster that could come in and make an immediate impact.

I also think we'll miss Meli. He's at the right sort of age for us to let him go, but we don't seem to have a replacement lined up. I can see Percival and Swift getting much more gametime, which is great, but my only concern is that we're going to be left with a pretty lightweight backline and might have trouble clearing our lines. We'll see.

So, overall, we'll be in much better shape and should be competitive amongst the current big teams. However, I think we're leaving a few too many things to chance, so I'm struggling to see us taking out the title.

Did you all walk into a bar? It sounds like the opening line of a joke

I don't think Swift is big or strong enough for centre; a bit like Crooks at Hull where he tried but didn't have the strength to line burst against Wigan.

Meli on the other hand certainly hasn't got fantastic pace but he takes a lot of stopping. We will miss him and I see next season similar to this season as we are still one HB light.

I don't think people should be putting so much faith in Luke Walsh just yet. He's a player that has clearly blown hot and cold in the NRL and could very easily be another disaster of a signing.

The club is still a bit of a joke at the moment. We've got very little depth in any position.

Fullback - Covered
Wing - Two very average players in Swift and Makinson. No Ryan Hall's here
Centres - Turner is average, struggling to see who the other centre is at the moment?
Stand off - We don't have any
Scrum half - One experienced player who may be great, but is inconsistent and seems very much a confidence player in Walsh. No backup at all
Hooker - Roby, but no depth beyond him unless we sign Howarth
Prop - Possibly the worst set of props in the top half? Walmsley is progressing nicely, Masoe is unproven but hopefully won't be a Feka-esque farce. Clough, Beaumont are all very average players. Have I missed any?
Backrow - Sia and Manu are quality, Wilkin should be a bench player now. Jones adds some depth here as well.
Loose - LMS has been an absolute revelation there in the last few games. Can he keep it up? Flanagan, if he's resigned is depth, but another very average player.

Any talk of us winning trophies is still very premature. We haven't got a good enough backline to rival the likes of Leeds, Wigan or Warrington in a meaningful game, we've got no stand off and a decent prop light.

We will also no doubt still have Paul Wellens and Anthony Laffranchi stinking the place out for another season, wasting a spot in the 17 each week.