No, I'm not talking about the Lance Hohia (sp) try/no try or even the goal that clearly went over but wasn't given.

I caught the very end of the under 20's match and witnessed the strangest decision I have ever seen! Saints under 20's were trailing 32-30 and then very late on in the match were given a penalty about 35/40 metres out from the sticks, fairly central. Saints understandably opted to kick at goal and get a draw. Foster slotted over the goal, but the referee gave a penalty to Widnes for offside, saying the Saints players were stood in front of Foster when he kicked it!! A truly baffling decision as none were chasing the kick as they knew it was going over and they had earnt the draw!

Very strange decision that cost Saints the match as the final whistle went very shortly after!

The only thing strange was that the call should have been a scrum to Widnes, not a penalty.

Saints number 6 wad stood well offside at the kick. Robinson was right not to award the. goal, but offside at a penalty kick at goal is a scrum to the non kicking team.

I seen you and your little one today

Really mate? Was that when we were off to the baby changing??! He kind of enjoyed the whole experience!! U should have said hello mate! Next time!

Thought saints were unlucky to get a penalty against them for being offside on the kick off. Ridiculous decision in a situation where you could penalise 4/5 players on every kick restart. Obviously only done it to make up for the conversion decision but I don't think he had to because it was down to the touch judges, not him.

Hate to say it but the decision was spot on. There was definitely a Saints player in front when the kick went. But well done to the Widnes crowd for bringing it tot he referee's attention.

Credit where credit is due. The crowd must have been watching your lot at KR for years who insisted on bringing things to the refs attention. "FORWARD"

i remember one that the great(sic) karl kirkpatrick was once involved in at K.R. i cant remember who we was playing? i think it was something like 30-28 to saints in the dying minutes? they got a penalty. the ref stood infront of the player with the ball,the player tapped it and ran and was tackled immediately. he then looked at the ref and pointed to the goal posts(indicating he wanted to go for "two"icon_wink.gif K.K then allowed him to kick it

the game ended in a draw...

Saints 32-32 Castleford in 1998 possibly?

That ended with Cas kicking a penalty with seconds to go and included a Dean Sampson 1st half hat-trick!Crazy game played in a howling gale.

could be the one mate

Worst one I've seen was John Holdsworth in the Kevin Ward 8-8 match at CP. He gave a penalty to Wigan (which they kicked) for Alan Hunte being offside at our PTB. In those days the players had to be 5m behind the PTB. Techinally the penalty was correct but I'd never seen one given before or since.

Is it a different rule if your in front of the kicker at a restart or drop out?

Yes, because that is a kick to restart play. A penalty is just a chance to win 2 points, the ball is not deemed to be out of play.

What he said.

Offside at kick off is penalty on half way. Offside at drop out is penalty 10m out bang in front. Offsdie at 20 drop out is penalty on 20m line.

Offside at a penalty kick at goal is scrum to non-kicking team. Strange but true.

Learn something everyday, cheers.

What's the official penalty for taking a drop out in front of the line. I know the NRL were clamping down on this but I don't know what the resultant penalty would be. I guess a penalty in front of the posts??

Mr H used to coach us when I played RL at Leeds Uni in the early '80s. One match away at Salford in the cup the ref didn't show up so he offered to officiate. We were a poor side (I believe they are much better now

) and didn't win many. With a couple of minutes to go, with the score at 8-8, they were in possession about 20m out. Mr H's eagle eyes spotted a very similar offence at the play the ball - penalty to Leeds Uni and a 10-8 victory.

Good decision

And if anyone's not heard my tale of the '10 point try' I was on the receiving end of when I was coaching, just let me know and I'll repeat it!

How on god's earth can you have a 10 point try?

Wasn't such a good decision at CP, especially when you consider how close we were to winning the league that year.

An inexperienced referee!

Our centre slid in with the knees as the other side were scoring. No problem with a penalty after the conversion but the referee had obviously heard the term '8 point try' bandied around and somehow got it into his head that it was 6 points for the try, two for the conversion and then two points for the penalty as well making a total of ten points. He wasn't having it when I tried to point out, rather calmly (

) the error of his ways!

Absolutely. I was at that game and remember being devastated when we ended up with a draw. If I recall we had to rely on Warrington to beat or draw with Wigan, which of course they didn't. Didn't we come second on points difference?

Yes. They had Wire and Cas left to play and won them both. Tea Ropati was a guest in the studio for Sky at the Cas game and Eddie asked him how he felt as Shaun Edwards was running round with the cup, I'll never forget the look on Tea's face!!!

At least we beat them in the Premiership Final at OT. Connolly's last game for us I think.

I remember that season well, we lost to Leigh before Christmas in a terrible match which basically cost us the league. It was typical Saints of the time sadly as we then went on to give the Goons a good shellacking 41-6 at boxing day (one of my favourite ever games). Was a great season overall (Not bad for a bunch of part timers) it's just a shame we then flogged Connolly at the end of the year and went backwards