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| Got on the score sheet for Leigh at the weekend. Seems to be going down quite well with the Leythers.
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| [qu[iGood luck to the lad,but another one not quite good enough for the top leval,doubt we will see him in the red vee any time soon,or later for that matter.iote="Offside Monkey"Got on the score sheet for Leigh at the weekend. Seems to be going down quite well with the Leythers.
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| Scored again in Leigh's rout of the Vikings.
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| He's developing nicely under a good coach.
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| I do wonder whether we've made the right decisions with Armstrong. It's clear that he has scoring power (he's demonstrated it in his brief first team career) and that's one of the best attributes you can pin to any player. Given Gardner and Meli's creaky form over the last two years I'm surprised we haven't given Tom more of a chance. I'm sure there's something about him we don't like the look of. Perhaps he's weak under the high ball. Perhaps he's slow on the turn. Or perhaps he just doesn't have the necessary level of professionalism. All such criticism would be understandable if it weren't for the fact that the same accusations have been leveled at Gardner and/or Meli throughout their careers.
It's impossible to coach talent. But there are many other facets of the game that can be and I suspect a strong leader might be able to turn Tom, at the very least, into a credible first team candidate who, if he did nothing else, would force the likes of Meli and Gardner (the latter of which has never really been put under pressure for his position) to look over the shoulders and buck up.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"He's developing nicely under a good coach.'"
Correct, just as long as we don't send any young second rowers over there
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| Quote ="Mugwump"I do wonder whether we've made the right decisions with Armstrong. It's clear that he has scoring power (he's demonstrated it in his brief first team career) and that's one of the best attributes you can pin to any player. Given Gardner and Meli's creaky form over the last two years I'm surprised we haven't given Tom more of a chance. I'm sure there's something about him we don't like the look of. Perhaps he's weak under the high ball. Perhaps he's slow on the turn. Or perhaps he just doesn't have the necessary level of professionalism. All such criticism would be understandable if it weren't for the fact that the same accusations have been leveled at Gardner and/or Meli throughout their careers.
It's impossible to coach talent. But there are many other facets of the game that can be and I suspect a strong leader might be able to turn Tom, at the very least, into a credible first team candidate who, if he did nothing else, would force the likes of Meli and Gardner (the latter of which has never really been put under pressure for his position) to look over the shoulders and buck up.'"
Maybe we've just pimped him out to Leigh for the season until Ade's contract runs out and we could perhaps give him a run in our first team if he does well this season.
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| Quote ="Mugwump"I do wonder whether we've made the right decisions with Armstrong. It's clear that he has scoring power (he's demonstrated it in his brief first team career) and that's one of the best attributes you can pin to any player. Given Gardner and Meli's creaky form over the last two years I'm surprised we haven't given Tom more of a chance. I'm sure there's something about him we don't like the look of. Perhaps he's weak under the high ball. Perhaps he's slow on the turn. Or perhaps he just doesn't have the necessary level of professionalism. All such criticism would be understandable if it weren't for the fact that the same accusations have been leveled at Gardner and/or Meli throughout their careers.
It's impossible to coach talent. But there are many other facets of the game that can be and I suspect a strong leader might be able to turn Tom, at the very least, into a credible first team candidate who, if he did nothing else, would force the likes of Meli and Gardner (the latter of which has never really been put under pressure for his position) to look over the shoulders and buck up.'"
I always thought Tom showed good hands in receiving tricky kicks. He seemed solid in defence and finished well. He'd certainly be a cheaper alternative to Gardner and give us cover for the centre.
We'll see how his form contiues for Leigh.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"He's developing nicely under a good coach.'"
Yes, he improved massively over the last two years.
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| Is he on loan, dual reg or has he left Saints?
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| Quote ="Billinge_Lump"Yes, he improved massively over the last two years.'"
Had he done that, he wouldn't be out on dual reg!
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Had he done that, he wouldn't be out on dual reg!'"
Why not?
Maybe the club feel that Wheeler, Foster and Lomax are better than him as centre/wing options, but him playing in the U 20's is no longer improving him. Dual reg is the perfect solution, he's playing at a better standard and we can recall him if he's ever needed.
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| Quote ="Billinge_Lump"Is he on loan, dual reg or has he left Saints?'"
Dual reg, whereas Frodsham is on season long loan.
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| Quote ="Billinge_Lump"Maybe the club feel that Wheeler, Foster and Lomax are better than him '"
There you go.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"There you go.'"
What's that got to do with him improving or not though?
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| Quote ="Billinge_Lump"What's that got to do with him improving or not though?'"
The fact that he needs improving is what it has to do with him improving! He wasn't good enough for immediate first team action so he's been sent to Leigh to get more education. If he had been a serious doubt, he would have been sent to Widnes on loan!
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"The fact that he needs improving is what it has to do with him improving! He wasn't good enough for immediate first team action so he's been sent to Leigh to get more education. If he had been a serious doubt, he would have been sent to Widnes on loan!'"
He was in a funny position, scoring for fun fr the 2nds, but there was a lot of competetion for spaces between Eastmond, Wheeler, Dean and such, so he wasn't really getting chance to prove himself, but the U20s was obviously too easy for him.
I've a feeling he'll make a decent superleague player.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"The fact that he needs improving is what it has to do with him improving! He wasn't good enough for immediate first team action so he's been sent to Leigh to get more education. If he had been a serious doubt, he would have been sent to Widnes on loan!'"
I fail to see the relevance to you dismissing my post about him improving over the last two years, of course that could be down to your perverse stance on not crediting Potter with anything positive...
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| [url=http://www.leighcenturions.com/report.php?id=7068Another try for Tom for Leigh.[/url This time in the NR Cup competetion.
Also, a couple of tries for young Jamie Ellis.
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| tom is developing niceley here at leigh he is gettin alot of game time as well. tom has scores 6 trys in 6 games for us thus far and is going to be a top top player. He is also proof that the dual reg system works when used correctly.
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| Quote ="leyth1978"tom is developing niceley here at leigh he is gettin alot of game time as well. tom has scores 6 trys in 6 games for us thus far and is going to be a top top player. He is also proof that the dual reg system works when used correctly.'" How does Jamie Ellis look?
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| jamie is quality as well 8 games 10 trys and 8 goals seems to have recoverd well from his knee injury last year. at min he and our stand off matyn ridyard are controling games for us, he will be back in sl next season i think but the diffrence with ellis is that you let him go and we signed him up on a years contract so he may end up anywhere.
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