Just going off the Warrington match we will be lucky to get in the top 3! our defence at times was appalling and must admit people have been saying our defence is poor but also we look lost when we try and attack at times. According to Saints website they want to attract people to come down to the Widnes ground but going off that performance they will scare people off, i was only going to go down a few times this season but its making me think again




Now iv stopped the moaning and will admit Warrington deserved the win and played awsome and really give us a kick up the backside

I tell you whats a real joke, your fans doing a no show.

Widnes, its MILES away from St Helens, not to mention Saints were putting on free buses I heard.

Poor.

Yeh fair enough we should go down and give it a chance but going off that performance they dont deserve my money tonight!

We were crap.

However, you have to give a lot of praise to Warrington.

Their defence was excellent and their attack was determined.

The scoreline absolutely flatters Saints, it was a very comfortable win for Wire.

Well played to them.

one defeat..cheer up its not the end of the world,or is it losing to us lot

Come on Jamie.... I am not exactly a fan of the Saints but I think they deserve better than tonights following for such a massive game.


Or maybe all you Saints fans are saving yourselves for sunday, battle of the champions

Fucking useless s, can't score in a brothel.

Yeh i would have gone with ' Its only one defeat ' but the way we lost was appalling IMO, and yeh we can get better but it looks we need a good shake up and all of our heads smashing together if we even want to win any silverware

Correct Widnes is miles away from St Helens, well done. Who was your source regarding the buses? They were wrong.

I stand corrected, free buses for under 16 season ticket holders and £40 for adults.

Apologies.

very surprised at the lack of saints fans tonight.

I love the caviat to say 'free buses IVE HEARD', grow some and have commitment in your trolling.

We'll make top 4 imo, Wire deserve all the credits they are getting tonight- totally outplayed us, shut up our half backs with heavy contact. Its game 3 of the season Quins are top of the table and Longs still playing uninjured (just). Lots of things will change and nothing is decided Feb.

Jamster, you grow some fool.

I was quick enough to correct myself. Idiot.

And if you want to get into it, £40 for transport to 13 home games, hardly going to break your dole money is it ?

We shoud really be getting in the top 3 but i doubt that and i very highly doubt we will win any silverware at all, i really dont know what we need if we want to win silverware

Deserved win for the wire tonight, their forwards got on a roll and you were on the back foot all night, wires kicking games was also far superior, Wellens made more yards turning around to collect the ball than the saints forwards did all night. I still wouldn't write you off though, early days yet.

I'm pretty worried about our attack. I know we scored big score against Salford last week but we lack ideas, predictable and don't look to have any players that look like beating a man.

We seem to just go through the motions and stick to simple rugby. Nobody is taking the line on and it's just pass pass pass like in a training ground session.

I'm not sure if if eastmond is sticking to what the coach is saying or got his mind on other things. He's gone from a real live wire that tajes the line on to a predictable pass pass pass scrumhalf.

We let 25 points in but two was off kicks, our defence ain't been great but it's our attack that has me worried.

I wasn't making excuses for the poor Saints turnout, also i wasn't pointing out you getting your basics facts wrong, i was merely indicating that if you wish to hijack a topic about a poor Saint's on-field performance to take it down the line of being a snipe at the fans then do it with some conviction. As for name calling... well i never

Fully agree as i stated earlier, our defence is a issue as we all know but our attack is shocking, we look like we are in no mans land when we have the ball in hand and we just dont know what to do at all which is very unlike us. Hope we improve.... Dramatically!

It's what "they" do.

The issue with our attack is a total lack of leadership, Roby's doing his best but its the Half Back pairing that need to to be the generals.

not sure how you will do with no half backs.... you need pryce back and quick.

you can't win the big games without at least one good half back calling the shots and a good hooker running the show from dumby-half...Roby can't do it on his own.

your back line was very quiet tonight...particularly the .

Spot on mate. IMO you can't go in to big games with two young inexperienced halfbacks. Not putting the blame on the halfbacks but they didn't go to line and couldn't do anything to change the game.

I said during the week that I'd have played wilkn at 6 to provide help and leadership to help Kyle and take all the pressure off him.

Our kicking game is terrible!

Did you expected him to win the game on his own...... yes he made a few mistakes, but he didn't play that badly..... he was your biggest threat all game..... we just defended him well.

I think you're using him as a scapegoat, which is the easy thing to do because he appears to be leaving.

Tonight showed that Wellens time as FB is over.I would go with Lomax there.

Clueless in attack ,with no kicking game near their line(not surprising with Eastmond at 7)