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| no no ive not come on here to slag him off, but im watching the png v aus game, and ray french just said that shenton has torn his ankle ligaments and may miss the rest of the tournament!
just thought id share that!
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| He's on crutches at the moment, and was supposedly having a scan earlier today.
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| Another one to chlak up to sick bay.
Maybe it is time we got Leonard McCoy on board.
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| As long as he's back for the start of super league I don't really care.
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| I heard it differently. I heard that he had sustained an ankle injury in the first half of the game against the Kiwis but had recovered from it enough to play in the second half. Ray French described it as an 'ankle knock', and he made the comment when Shenton made the break for the second try.
Just looked at the Sky website. Bugger.
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| Very disappointing - he was one of our few bright sparks yesterday.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"I heard it differently. I heard that he had sustained an ankle injury in the first half of the game against the Kiwis but had recovered from it enough to play in the second half. Ray French described it as an 'ankle knock', and he made the comment when Shenton made the break for the second try.
Just looked at the Sky website. Bugger.'"
maybe that was my hearing then, but im sure its what he said! anyway, it could be due to the fact id been awake since watching our game yesterday morning and wasnt thinking straight lol!
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| Quote ="seanm89"maybe that was my hearing then, but im sure its what he said! anyway, it could be due to the fact id been awake since watching our game yesterday morning and wasnt thinking straight lol!'"
Quote "It doesn't look good but we will be monitoring the injury and keeping an eye on what progress Michael makes.'"
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Doesn;t look good
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| Quote ="seanm89"maybe that was my hearing then, but im sure its what he said! anyway, it could be due to the fact id been awake since watching our game yesterday morning and wasnt thinking straight lol!'"
Well, the BBC crew referred to an ankle knock that he'd recovered from but since typing the first bit of my last post I read the Sky website and found that it was a sprained ankle rather than an ankle knock. And we know what they can be like from our experience with Kyle babes.
So much about this England side remind me of Saints ala 2010, actually. Poor defence, dropping the ball, giving away penalties, no halfbacks, poor kicking game, a handful of players performing well, and one of them subsequently out injured with an ankle sprain ...
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Well, the BBC crew referred to an ankle knock that he'd recovered from but since typing the first bit of my last post I read the Sky website and found that it was a sprained ankle rather than an ankle knock. And we know what they can be like from our experience with Kyle babes.
So much about this England side remind me of Saints ala 2010, actually. Poor defence, dropping the ball, giving away penalties, no halfbacks, poor kicking game, a handful of players performing well, and one of them subsequently out injured with an ankle sprain ...'"
Let's hope we can make a final then : )
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| we need to get him back and treated asap. dont want him missing the season start
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| If its torn ankle ligaments, you are looking at 2 months before you can even walk again, let alone train
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| Quote ="MacBlondie"If its torn ankle ligaments, you are looking at 2 months before you can even walk again, let alone train'"
More like 6-8 weeks maybe 3 months prior to being able to start training again.
Thought he was poor first half but upped his game second half.
Despite someone who has posted on this thread blaming Goulding for the first try, for actually making a tackle, he was ball watching on the TL pass on the next play and got caught out as we had the numbers. Not the last time he struggled in defence in the first half.
Better than Atkins though by a country mile.
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| Quote ="jonh"Despite someone who has posted on this thread blaming Goulding for the first try, for actually making a tackle, he was ball watching on the TL pass on the next play and got caught out as we had the numbers. Not the last time he struggled in defence in the first half.'"
Not alot he could do about the try. They had an overlap on that side and Shenton was effectively marking 3 men.
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| Quote ="Blobbynator"Not alot he could do about the try. They had an overlap on that side and Shenton was effectively marking 3 men.'"
Thats what I thought at the time but looking back the inside defenders had moved across and it was a 3 on 3.
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| Quote ="jonh"Thats what I thought at the time but looking back the inside defenders had moved across and it was a 3 on 3.'"
I think that try should go down to great vision and execution from Leuluai rather than a defenseive error. I think that play won't have been stopped 99/100 times.
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"I think that try should go down to great vision and execution from Leuluai rather than a defenseive error. I think that play won't have been stopped 99/100 times.'"
Be careful praising any Wigan player, "Saints Fan" will be asking questions.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Well, the BBC crew referred to an ankle knock that he'd recovered from but since typing the first bit of my last post I read the Sky website and found that it was a sprained ankle rather than an ankle knock. And we know what they can be like from our experience with Kyle babes.
So much about this England side remind me of Saints ala 2010, actually. Poor defence, dropping the ball, giving away penalties, no halfbacks, poor kicking game, a handful of players performing well, and one of them subsequently out injured with an ankle sprain ...'"
I know HP was poor at times but surely he was better than that clown McBanana who said after the game
"We dipped our toe in the water on Saturday and as soon as we realised it wasn't as cold as we thought, we managed to find our feet in the second half."
The best comment of the game goes to the BBC match commentator who said when Luke came on "here comes Isaac Luke the rubber faced man"
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Quote ="BackrowSaint"I think that try should go down to great vision and execution from Leuluai rather than a defenseive error. I think that play won't have been stopped 99/100 times.'"
I disagree, it was a 4 on 3 and Shenton got the read very wrong, in fact he made no read at all and got caught flat footed ball watching. Basic error, having said that the vision was good but the ball was also forward.
He also made the initial miss that caused Goulding to come in, he should have done better on both occasions but his inside defenders also have to put their hand up, most notably Brown.
news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 121138.stm
2 minutes 30.
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I disagree, it was a 4 on 3 and Shenton got the read very wrong, in fact he made no read at all and got caught flat footed ball watching. Basic error, having said that the vision was good but the ball was also forward.
He also made the initial miss that caused Goulding to come in, he should have done better on both occasions but his inside defenders also have to put their hand up, most notably Brown.
news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 121138.stm
2 minutes 30.
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| Quote ="jonh"snip'"
Mmm, could have done better, although the initail trouble when goulding had to come in seemed rife whenever the ball was going wide. [iTeam[/i defence outwide seems to be one of the biggest problems england has.
Shenton did miss another one on Pritchard later in the game, which was poor, but he made a couple of good calls in defence later on and started to do a bit with the ball.
Reasonably encouraging veiwing for the saints fans though, i'd say, as he does apparently possess the one thing we crave at the moment - pace.
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| Quote ="MacBlondie"If its torn ankle ligaments, you are looking at 2 months before you can even walk again, let alone train'"
[url=http://www.sportsinjuryclinic.net/cybertherapist/front/ankle/anklesprain.htmNot necessarily.[/url It all depends on how bad the ankle sprain is. And he will have access to the kind of facilities us mere mortals don't have when we sprain our ankles!
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| Quote ="Offside Monkey"Reasonably encouraging veiwing for the saints fans though, i'd say, as he does apparently possess the one thing we crave at the moment - pace.'"
Definitely.
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| Kevin Brown was at fault for the first try imo. Too slow moving across the defensive line which resulted in a overlap. Brown did this a number of times in the game.
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| Shenton could do with the rest so disappointing from an England point of view but not disastrous for us.
I echo the sentiment about him being better than Atkins the other day, in fact I would go one step further and say that Shenton's done more in a handful of games at this level than many other more celebrated and decorated players.
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| He really impressed me in the 2nd half, and I have never been a huge fan of him in the past. Atkins was a liability IMO.
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