Is there any reason why we would ask Wello to kick a last minute, pressure penalty when the guy hasn't kicked a goal all evening? ? ?

Stupid decision if you ask me, if he has missed 5 kicks before the last minute, then what suddenly makes him good enough at kicking, to slot over a last minute equalising goal.

Bizarre.

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It's Potter's fault or whoever decided to let Wellens kick it. What has happened to Matt Gidley? He's got a left peg like a Nick Faldo 9 iron and would have popped about three of those attempts over with ease.

It's arrogant and unprofessional of us to let Wellens kick. We should chose a kicker in the starting 13, even if they hide on the wing all game and just kick goals.

If he wasnt heavily strapped requiring late fitness tests to see if he could even play and then not being able to run properly

Sorry i cant blame Wellens for missing those kicks, once in a blue moon we ask him to do the job and he does it. There was unecessary pressure put onto him tonight.

I do agree that the 5th tackle plays were shocking though.

Well, we ask him to do the job and usually he doesn't do it.

Tonight showed that Wilkin is no 7.

Gidley kept pace with Atkins on his run to the line, granted Atkins was probably laughing his butt off but still. Wilkin then, anyone.

Francis Meli could have done better.

I agree, he has never been a good goal kicker.

I meant he takes the responsibilities

I think we are lacking a leader at the minute aswell. No-one taking control ordering the players about. No organisation. Some of the more experienced players have got to help the youngsters out.

When you end up giving the ball to your prop forward on the last tackle that shows that there is a lack of leadership and organisation in the team.

Let's face it, our game plan looks bloody shaky every time it rains, no matter who is on the pitch. Unless we learn how to play better in poor conditions pretty fast, we may as well tell Leeds not to bother to bring the trophy to Old Trafford.

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I think you will find its not so much the weather, but the slowing down of the play the balls thats killing our open style of rugby. If it gets any worse we might as well call it a hybrid form of rugby union.

Maybe. Refs are prone to allow slower tackles in the rain, but I didn't see that as the problem tonight. When we had the ball, we just looked clueless. At first we tried to pass it and dropped it, and then we stopped passing it and discovered that you can't just barge your way over like some sort of park game. Our kicking game was utter pants (not just at goal), and we looked so slow I thought we were Bradford when Atkins and then Wilkin made their breaks. None of that is much to do with slow PTBs.

Wilkin had 1 good game at 7 and that was a freak of a game.

He wouldn't make a scrumhalf as long as he lives.

That's all I'm saying on wilkin as most know what I think of him






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A Saints win would have been better for us tonight, but Brough and Obst kicked you to death.

Saints lacked a leader, someone with the nous to play the game at the right end of the park.

You had enough experience out there to do it, but maybe not the right man. The young second rowers tried hard but struggled (understandably) and the loss of Lomax made it hard for you to change things.

Can't argue with any of that.

You mean it's killing our ability to run from dummy half.

I think the rain affects our kick returns a great deal.

Neither winger is particularly confident under the kick which means we let the ball run further than other teams do as they dilly dally before picking up the ball, and Wellens is as slow as they come these days. This means that on most kick returns we're starting the set a good 10 metres further back than we could/should be.

Nobody asked him to mucker, he said he is kicking on friday night, and thats what he did. The guy put his hand up and just went on with it, maybe he should have bailed after kick 4 or 5, but by this time and with the kick being EASY , he just continued onwards with the job he said he would do, unfortunatley it wasnt his night. Still got a massive willy though.