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| got told this morning..(i know another got told blah blah blah) ..that brown was for the high jump and kieron and scully are taking over!
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| Quote ="RIGSBY"got told this morning..(i know another got told blah blah blah) ..that brown was for the high jump and kieron and scully are taking over!'"
Unless they're putting their boots on, I can't ee how that's going to help.
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| Quote ="RIGSBY"got told this morning..(i know another got told blah blah blah) ..that brown was for the high jump and kieron and scully are taking over!'"
The would be another sensible move!
Get a half decent coach but give him the worst squad we've had in SL then remove his only real half back and when we get injuries and the paper thin squad is exposed SACK him!
Hardly likely....
I HOPE!
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| Brown won't be going anywhere yet.
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| Any talk of brown going now with the squad he's had is ridiculous !
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| we all know browns downfalls, main one being having no plan B when things start to go wrong.
but he was good for huddersfield..look at the players he brought on!
cudjoe (made him an international centre)
wardle (gave debut)
mcgillvary (gave debut)
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robinson (international hooker)
lunt (debut)
patrick (debut)
we have alot to thank him for
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| Quote ="RIGSBY"got told this morning..(i know another got told blah blah blah) ..that brown was for the high jump and kieron and scully are taking over!'"
I'd be VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY surprised if that was the case and VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY uneasy if that was the case. McManus would, with that move, seem to place the blame onto the coaching when it is not atm.
I like Brown and I cannot see why people are failing to see that it is the team that is the problem and not him.
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| I'd be inclined to believe any rumours about Brown, as there was always the question over his desire to take the job in the first place. He's been trying to get a job back in the NRL pretty much since he joined Huddersfield. He clearly doesn't want to be coaching in England if he can help it.
So it might not be him getting sacked as such, perhaps the size of the challenge and lack of investment in helping with it has made him question his desire to do the job?
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| Quote ="Saddened!"I'd be inclined to believe any rumours about Brown, as there was always the question over his desire to take the job in the first place. He's been trying to get a job back in the NRL pretty much since he joined Huddersfield. He clearly doesn't want to be coaching in England if he can help it.
So it might not be him getting sacked as such, perhaps the size of the challenge and lack of investment in helping with it has made him question his desire to do the job?'"
Don't you think it's just the usual inane rumour that arises when a team goes through a rough patch?
It would be outrageous to sack Brown at this stage given the materials he's been able to work with.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"I'd be inclined to believe any rumours about Brown, as there was always the question over his desire to take the job in the first place. He's been trying to get a job back in the NRL pretty much since he joined Huddersfield. He clearly doesn't want to be coaching in England if he can help it.
So it might not be him getting sacked as such, perhaps the size of the challenge and lack of investment in helping with it has made him question his desire to do the job?'"
Given that he couldn't get a job in the NRL before he took the job at Saints, I don't think he's going to get one now.
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| Quote ="Albion"I like Brown and I cannot see why people are failing to see that it is the team that is the problem and not him.'"
Maybe because it isn't wholly the team which is the problem. For example, it wasn't the team who decided to mess around with the pivot positions just before our biggest game of the season and it wasn't the team who decided to dispense with our one remaining fit 6. There are other questions too which go to the coach rather than the team. And, at the end of the day, the buck stops with the coach regardless of how good or not the team is.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"And, at the end of the day, the buck stops with the coach regardless of how good or not the team is.'"
Ultimately, yes. But I think it would be harsh not to acknowledge that he has inherited a number of problems from previous regimes. He needs some time to sort these problems out before we can judge him on his own merits.
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| Quote ="Dux"Ultimately, yes. But I think it would be harsh not to acknowledge that he has inherited a number of problems from previous regimes. He needs some time to sort these problems out before we can judge him on his own merits.'"
Exactly, it's all about context.
How can a coach be questioned when he has inherited a squad with ZERO half-backs?! I am completely baffled as to any question of his ability currently. If that is sorted (a big if!) this season and the problems persist then I would agree with SaintsFan. We shown a lot of effort and desire on Sat and that shows that Brown said the right things at half-time as they came out a different team, or was that the team that did that?
Quote ="SaintsFan"Maybe because it isn't wholly the team which is the problem. For example, it wasn't the team who decided to mess around with the pivot positions just before our biggest game of the season and =#FF0000it wasn't the team who decided to dispense with our one remaining fit 6. '"
Someone who was bang average last season and this season? Gaskell did a similar job to Hohaia when he has played #6 for Saints yet everyone hates Hohaia but thinks Gaskell is the saviour? It makes no sense.
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| Quote ="Dux"Ultimately, yes. But I think it would be harsh not to acknowledge that he has inherited a number of problems from previous regimes. He needs some time to sort these problems out before we can judge him on his own merits.'"
I don't think he's suffering anything from previous regimes. McManus has the cheque book at the end of the day. He wouldn't even open it at one point! (Claiming that the club 'believed in bringing through the youth' - remember those days?!) I just think in terms of recruitment generally we have suffered due to all focus and finance being directed towards the stadium. However, that doesn't excuse the coach from getting the best out of what he has and I don't believe Brown is doing that just at the moment.
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| Quote ="Albion"Exactly, it's all about context.
How can a coach be questioned when he has inherited a squad with ZERO half-backs?! I am completely baffled as to any question of his ability currently. If that is sorted (a big if!) this season and the problems persist then I would agree with SaintsFan. We shown a lot of effort and desire on Sat and that shows that Brown said the right things at half-time as they came out a different team, or was that the team that did that?
Someone who was bang average last season and this season? Gaskell did a similar job to Hohaia when he has played #6 for Saints yet everyone hates Hohaia but thinks Gaskell is the saviour? It makes no sense.'"
Not true but what I will say Gaskell has never defended as badly as Hohaia did on Saturday.
Gaskell was binned for a lot less,Im intrested In Browns tollerance levels this week.
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| Quote ="Dux"Don't you think it's just the usual inane rumour that arises when a team goes through a rough patch?
It would be outrageous to sack Brown at this stage given the materials he's been able to work with.'"
Could well be. I don't think we would sack him, it would be utterly stupid to do that. However I wouldn't rule out him walking. If he's got a massive uphill battle on his hands (As realistically, he has) he might not fancy it. He's in the same boat as Harry Potter was before he left, he only took the Saints job as he couldn't get a job back home and took the Bradford job out of sheer desperation. When a chance came to leave them and go home, he did.
I certainly don't see Brown staying at Saints long term, unless he's had a massive change of heart.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Could well be. I don't think we would sack him, it would be utterly stupid to do that. However I wouldn't rule out him walking. If he's got a massive uphill battle on his hands (As realistically, he has) he might not fancy it. He's in the same boat as Harry Potter was before he left, he only took the Saints job as he couldn't get a job back home and took the Bradford job out of sheer desperation. When a chance came to leave them and go home, he did.
I certainly don't see Brown staying at Saints long term, unless he's had a massive change of heart.'"
I don't think that he will walk or be sacked, the season is not half over yet.
IF he were to walk then he will struggle to ever get another RL Coaching job (except of course at Halifax or Leigh). If Saints were to sack him then it would send out a massive sign to any prospective job applicant. 'Win win win or we will sack you fast fast fast'.
After you beat us at the HJ earlier this year & we then got beat by Leeds, there were some on our board asking if TS had run his time at Warrington.
Warrington will make the last 4 of this years play off's, it would not surprise me at all to also have Saints in the last 4.
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| Something I don't really like about Nathan Brown is what he says post match. On the Saints website, he says that he is not worried about our discipline. Well, given that three of our players will be missing for at least one week on top of those we have missing through injury, he bloody well should be.
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| Quote ="Fatbelly"I don't think that he will walk or be sacked, the season is not half over yet.
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Isn't that about the time he usually announces he's f******g off to a mythical job in Australia?
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| Quote ="brearley84"we all know browns downfalls, main one being having no plan B when things start to go wrong.
but he was good for huddersfield..look at the players he brought on!
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wardle (gave debut)
mcgillvary (gave debut)
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robinson (international hooker)
lunt (debut)
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we have alot to thank him for'"
Agreed we do have a lot to think him for, certainly all the above. But as I've said for a few years now, Brown is a great Player Developer. His role should be Head of Player Development, not Head Coach.
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| Quote ="Albion"
Someone who was bang average last season and this season? Gaskell did a similar job to Hohaia when he has played #6 for Saints yet everyone hates Hohaia but thinks Gaskell is the saviour? It makes no sense.'"
Gaskell is most certainly not our saviour but he's probably better the Hiho and I suspect 1/10 the cost. It's a shame we cant get Salford to take Hiho off our hands
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| Quote ="Fatbelly"I don't think that he will walk or be sacked, the season is not half over yet.
IF he were to walk then he will struggle to ever get another RL Coaching job (except of course at Halifax or Leigh). If Saints were to sack him then it would send out a massive sign to any prospective job applicant. 'Win win win or we will sack you fast fast fast'.
After you beat us at the HJ earlier this year & we then got beat by Leeds, there were some on our board asking if TS had run his time at Warrington.
Warrington will make the last 4 of this years play off's, it would not surprise me at all to also have Saints in the last 4.'"
It's way too soon to be sacking a coach. tbh I like Tony Smith and would love him to coach Saints but even he would struggle to polish this turd
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Something I don't really like about Nathan Brown is what he says post match. On the Saints website, he says that he is not worried about our discipline.'"
I find it slightly irritating the way he always speaks in questions, don't I? It's a little bit unnecessary, isn't it?
But on the whole I don't mind the content of what he says.
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| Quote ="Dux"I find it slightly irritating the way he always speaks in questions, don't I? It's a little bit unnecessary, isn't it?'"
I think that is just speaking Australian?
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"I think that is just speaking Australian?
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Or Californian, they have that annoying habbit too
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