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| Quote ="SAINTSAM"For the first time I actually believed the build timescales that the club advised which would have meant the project starting about now! especially as its our last season at KR
However I had a chat with some wire fans who work for some construction company involved with the tender process and they say nothing has been decided at this time as to who's got the job. Obviously they are hoping its Barrs as they would do the foundations and footings for the stadium.
When it comes to steelwork and the subcontracting out of the various phases are we realistically looking at months rather than weeks.
I hope I am wrong but the loud silence from the club is worrying me.'"
Not necessarily. Should Barr be successful, they have in-house capabilities for; steelwork, precast concrete (terrace units) and cladding. Bowmer and Kirkland also have steelwork and cladding as part of their group structure.
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Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"Not necessarily. Should Barr be successful, they have in-house capabilities for; steelwork, precast concrete (terrace units) and cladding. Bowmer and Kirkland also have steelwork and cladding as part of their group structure.'"
Just reading your post shows how tricky finding the best value for money tender application.
Barr also have an agreement with Tesco, dont know if that would be of any help to Barr with this tender.
www.barr.co.uk/retail.html
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Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"Not necessarily. Should Barr be successful, they have in-house capabilities for; steelwork, precast concrete (terrace units) and cladding. Bowmer and Kirkland also have steelwork and cladding as part of their group structure.'"
Just reading your post shows how tricky finding the best value for money tender application.
Barr also have an agreement with Tesco, dont know if that would be of any help to Barr with this tender.
www.barr.co.uk/retail.html
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Quote ="The Doghead"Just reading your post shows how tricky finding the best value for money tender application.
Barr also have an agreement with Tesco, dont know if that would be of any help to Barr with this tender.
www.barr.co.uk/retail.html'"
Tesco and their agreements are a little loose at the moment.
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Quote ="The Doghead"Just reading your post shows how tricky finding the best value for money tender application.
Barr also have an agreement with Tesco, dont know if that would be of any help to Barr with this tender.
www.barr.co.uk/retail.html'"
Tesco and their agreements are a little loose at the moment.
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| Ok people our regular Sunday update is here
The piles of rubble are on the retail side of the linkway, and its where the roundabout is going
amd as you can see there is quite a lot of banking already gone
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"Not necessarily. Should Barr be successful, they have in-house capabilities for; steelwork, precast concrete (terrace units) and cladding. Bowmer and Kirkland also have steelwork and cladding as part of their group structure.'"
I heard a little whisper that the precast will be made near the site and not brought in.
Is bowmer kirkland in for job? they have been subbing there ground work out to a firm called abbey civils.
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| Quote ="St pete"I heard a little whisper that the precast will be made near the site and not brought in.
Is bowmer kirkland in for job? they have been subbing there ground work out to a firm called abbey civils.'"
Bowmer and Kirkland are bidding as a joint venture. B&K are looking at the Tesco side of things and a Leeds based contractor is looking at the stadium side (can't think of their name at the mo).
As for the precast side of things, are you saying they would be cast in-situ? I really can't see that as bringing the moulds to site would be as big a logistical task as bringing the units to site. That is even before considering the space required.
The only guys who have the capablity locally to manufacture terrace units are based in Bolton, but at the end of the day it will be a commercial decision.
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| So, given there are a few bods posting on this thread that appear to have a bit more knowledge than 'Why aren't I being told anything. It's a disgrace!' type posts, a question.
Seeing as there are still buildings on the land that don't look like they've been touched since the big one came down, and the land is reported to need some kind of decontamination, is this groundwork be factored into the build time or will be added on? And will they wait for the road to be finished before starting it so the heavy equipment will have access to the site?
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| Quote ="Billinge_Lump"So, given there are a few bods posting on this thread that appear to have a bit more knowledge than 'Why aren't I being told anything. It's a disgrace!' type posts, a question.
Seeing as there are still buildings on the land that don't look like they've been touched since the big one came down, and the land is reported to need some kind of decontamination, is this groundwork be factored into the build time or will be added on? And will they wait for the road to be finished before starting it so the heavy equipment will have access to the site?'"
The reason behind no news, I would imagine, is there is no news to tell. Procuring construction work is incomparable to almost every other form of procurement.
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"The reason behind no news, I would imagine, is there is no news to tell. Procuring construction work is incomparable to almost every other form of procurement.'"
I get that, I meant more knowledge of the building industry rather than this project.
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"Bowmer and Kirkland are bidding as a joint venture. B&K are looking at the Tesco side of things and a Leeds based contractor is looking at the stadium side (can't think of their name at the mo).
As for the precast side of things, are you saying they would be cast in-situ? I really can't see that as bringing the moulds to site would be as big a logistical task as bringing the units to site. That is even before considering the space required.
The only guys who have the capablity locally to manufacture terrace units are based in Bolton, but at the end of the day it will be a commercial decision.'"
Leeds based firm, is it Marshalls?
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"Bowmer and Kirkland are bidding as a joint venture. B&K are looking at the Tesco side of things and a Leeds based contractor is looking at the stadium side (can't think of their name at the mo).
As for the precast side of things, are you saying they would be cast in-situ? I really can't see that as bringing the moulds to site would be as big a logistical task as bringing the units to site. That is even before considering the space required.
The only guys who have the capablity locally to manufacture terrace units are based in Bolton, but at the end of the day it will be a commercial decision.'"
I would say that tayban in Bolton will do precast as is prob nearest to site.
I know the will be concrete going to site tomoz around dinner time. It looks like Tarmac topmix will be doing the concrete.
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| Quote ="St pete"Leeds based firm, is it Marshalls?'"
No. Something beginning with 'W'. Really can't remember.
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"No. Something beginning with 'W'. Really can't remember.'"
If you think of the name let me know. Il be able to tell you if they have put price in for job.
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"No. Something beginning with 'W'. Really can't remember.'"
The brother in law's golf partner owns a very large building firm in Yorkshire, Williams.
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"Something beginning with 'W''"
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| ok folks , new sunday update pictures
near the cutout for the roundabout, presumably this is going to be the road into the site
showing the cutout on the retail park side of the linkway
and just the normal views of the site

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| Grutnfuttock, Thanks for the updates I'm in Brisbane till May 9th, first run out in the car, guess where??
Keep up the good work, hope Rogues logs onto this post, he'll be green with envy.
Do you think Mr Mcmanus will let the Piemen play their home games here, When Whelan kicks them out, or, will they doff their cap the Village.
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|  Your welcome mate this is ewhat the thread is all about , people who are out of town and cant see the wonderful things happening, will keep you all updated every week come rain hail or snow (and this is during the summer ! ,well maybe if the snow is not too deep !!  )
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| Quote ="Benidorm John"Grutnfuttock, Thanks for the updates I'm in Brisbane till May 9th, first run out in the car, guess where??
Keep up the good work, hope Rogues logs onto this post, he'll be green with envy.
Do you think Mr Mcmanus will let the Piemen play their home games here, When Whelan kicks them out, or, will they doff their cap the Village.'"
John you need to correct your sig from Saints have never won the 2nd division Title, so there!!
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Have a safe flight home, and we'll have beer or three when you get back, so that we can trade insults face to face. 
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"John you need to correct your sig from Saints have never won the 2nd division Title, so there!!
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Have a safe flight home, and we'll have beer or three when you get back, so that we can trade insults face to face.
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Dear Rogues, My Sig is absolutely correct , politically or otherwise, so I shall not acceed to your request, (rather belatedly as it is), thank you for calling and enjoy our pictures of our stadium,
We may get a petition together to consider a request for you to play your home fixtures at our new ground when DW gets rid. we're not all bad this side of the lump. I wouldn't like you to have to go to the Village doffing your cap!!!
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| BJ
A brilliant politicians answer, when are you back 
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| May 9th, if we can find Manchester through the Volcanic Cloud, a late night tonight, Channel 9 are showing Saints and Leeds at midnight QLD time, It's all good, plenty of Stubbies in the fridge.
Thanks for the reply, hope you are at peace with the world, kind regards John B
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| [iIt's a similar story in St Helens, Merseyside, where Tesco is building a stadium for St Helens rugby league club, but the new superstore and massive car park will dominate, relegating the stadium to round the back of the site.[/i
Doesn't seem very inspiring.13th para.[url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/may/05/urban-development-tesco-townsSource[/url
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| Quote ="Waketrin Wild"[iIt's a similar story in St Helens, Merseyside, where Tesco is building a stadium for St Helens rugby league club, but the new superstore and massive car park will dominate, relegating the stadium to round the back of the site.[/i
Doesn't seem very inspiring.13th para.[url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/may/05/urban-development-tesco-townsSource[/url'"
To be fair it makes sense , stadium used every 2 weeks for part of the year or a superstore used everyday and mostly 24hrs a day, the store should obviously be at the front
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"To be fair it makes sense , stadium used every 2 weeks for part of the year or a superstore used everyday and mostly 24hrs a day, the store should obviously be at the front'"
Not really, the stadium should be something to be proud of not hidden. But we'll see how it looks when the build is somewhere near starting.
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