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| As such a professional outfit in all aspects of the game with the obvious exception of goal kicking, I'm bemused and baffled why the Saints take the skill and importance of place kicking so lightly???????????? surely its not inconceivable to wonder why in a club with so many top flight players not one decent kicker can be found I'm lost for words!
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| Quote ="handrags"As such a professional outfit in all aspects of the game with the obvious exception of goal kicking, I'm bemused and baffled why the Saints take the skill and importance of place kicking so lightly???????????? surely its not inconceivable to wonder why in a club with so many top flight players not one decent kicker can be found I'm lost for words!'"
Three of our kickers were injured and the other three were either not chosen (Ellis, Foster) or chosen but hardly played (Lomax). Potter's decision - a wrong one IMO. I'm just hoping Wellens' confidence will be ok after last night.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Three of our kickers were injured and the other three were either not chosen (Ellis, Foster) or chosen but hardly played (Lomax). Potter's decision - a wrong one IMO. I'm just hoping Wellens' confidence will be ok after last night.'"
All the top sides have dedicated place kickers all better than we have at Saints. Long as decided he doesn't want to kick ! Is it beyond the realms of possibility to expect our club to pick and train 3 or 4 players under the tuition of a professional kick coach and get them to at least practice during normal training sessions ? Our approach at the moment seems to be WHO WANTS TO KICK TONIGHT ??? NOT GOOD ENOGH MR. POTTER GET YOUR FINGER OUT.
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| Thats the thing. Last nights defeat was avoidable and was lazy and unprofessional.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Thats the thing. Last nights defeat was avoidable and was lazy and unprofessional.[/quot
When it comes to place kicking we are unprofessional ! I can go back to the likes of Austin Rhodes and his ilk who practiced their art and delivered, our players are after all well paid professionals and to expect a couple who have some ability to put their hand up for intense training is in my mind expected ! pay a bonus for every goal kicked,
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| Quote ="handrags"All the top sides have dedicated place kickers all better than we have at Saints. Long as decided he doesn't want to kick !'"
Long decided he didn't want to kick 6-7 years ago when Sculthorpe started doing it.
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| Quote ="Terry Monster"I always thought Gidley had kicked a few goals in his past.'"
Nope never.
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| Where did this Gidley is a goal kicker idea stem from? He's kicked 6 goals in 3 years.
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| Quote ="Billinge_Lump"Where did this Gidley is a goal kicker idea stem from? He's kicked 6 goals in 3 years.'"
And apparantly non prior to that in any of his previous club & rep games. Seems the JL factor has taken effect and everyone thinks all centres can kick.
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| Is it worth trying to fit Foster in next week if Eastmond isn't fit?
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| Quote ="Carlos Alberto"Is it worth trying to fit Foster in next week if Eastmond isn't fit?'"
I would say so, nto seen the kid since his outing at Widnes in the pre seaon friendly. Were not spending and realying on the youth to take us forward for the future, so lets get the kid a gig. If we carry on with injuries we will have no a-team left as they all be in the big league
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| Saints are in the top 3 for goals in superleague if anybody wants to know.
If they were in the bottom 3 and losing games I'd be worried. Wait till we thrash someone and Eastmond kicks 10 goals in the match.....it will all be a distant memory then
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| Quote ="Judder Man"Saints are in the top 3 for goals in superleague if anybody wants to know.
If they were in the bottom 3 and losing games I'd be worried. Wait till we thrash someone and Eastmond kicks 10 goals in the match.....it will all be a distant memory then'"
Thats not what we need! Thats the whole point in the thead!
We need to kick goals in the close games, not when we thrash teams by big scores.
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| Quote ="Ashmeister"Thats not what we need! Thats the whole point in the thead!
We need to kick goals in the close games, not when we thrash teams by big scores.'"
Like I said, personally I,m not too worried at the moment, think this is the first time we have lost a match this season because we havn't kicked enough goals. Don't think we have had a high percentage goal kicker in all thirteen years of superleague.
The "entertainers tag" is slipping at the moment, once we get to full strength and in form then it will be business as usual.
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| Quote ="BillyRhino"Wellens had a nightmare last night, and has lost a fair bit of what he brought to the game, but in his pomp he would have walked into any RL team.'"
Agreed...well as far as SL goes.....apart from the Wigan or Great Britain side when Radlinski was playing
even in his pomp he'da been made to look daft in the NRL IMO
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| Quote ="Billinge_Lump"As would Radlinski.'"
Mate, you'll have him in tears. The mere mention of Radlinski's name and he creams his knickers.
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| Quote ="Carlos Alberto"Is it worth trying to fit Foster in next week if Eastmond isn't fit?'"
Given the injury situation it may not be a case of [itrying[/i to fit him in.
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| Quote ="Billinge_Lump"Given the injury situation it may not be a case of [itrying[/i to fit him in.'"
I don't think Foster will play. From the pre season at Widne, it was clear that he needed a bit more size.
Not suggesting that all modern day players need to be popeye, because that has been one of the reasons the Aussie backs are so superior, but Foster still looks like a young sapling.
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| Quote ="eddiewaringsflatcap"I don't think Foster will play. From the pre season at Widne, it was clear that he needed a bit more size.
Not suggesting that all modern day players need to be popeye, because that has been one of the reasons the Aussie backs are so superior, but Foster still looks like a young sapling.'"
I fully agree with that, it makes me wonder if those who keep calling for him to be played have actually seen him.
The only thing is, if Meli is missing along with all the other injuries, who's left?
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| Quote ="Billinge_Lump"The only thing is, if Meli is missing along with all the other injuries, who's left?'"
Ellis? There's also Armstrong (on Meli's wing).
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Ellis? There's also Armstrong (on Meli's wing).'"
Ellis on the wing? Is he fast enough?
I'd forgotten about Armstrong though, he'd be a more obvious choice.
I suspect Ellis may have to be utilised somewhere in the middle, at hooker perhaps.
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| How anyone can blame Wellens is beyond me. You're all a disgrace, those of you who do.
He can't kick goals for 5h!t and the only person to blame is Potter for picking a 17 without a player who can kick a goal.
Wellens does not constitute an able kicker and never has. You put a kicker on the field even if it weakens your 17 overall because you can't win a game without converting a single try so all wakey had to do was keep us wide every score which they did. Kear well and truly did his homework on us.
0/6 with the boot and you can only blame Potter for that. Fact is we had no cutting edge in the second half near the line and Wakey defended like Trojans on their own line.
They deserved it, well played Wakey. Pains me to say it all the same.
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| Quote ="Billinge_Lump"I fully agree with that, it makes me wonder if those who keep calling for him to be played have actually seen him.
The only thing is, if Meli is missing along with all the other injuries, who's left?'"
You just have cover Foster up in defence. That's all and make the best of it. He can kick goals from anywhere, get him in I say. That is unless Eastmond is fit again.
When you are converting 75% plus of your tries it makes us nearly unbeatable cos we are top of the league still with the worst kicker in the comp statistically(Long). It says it all.
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