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| Quote ="DoubleAone"Credits to Leicester Rhino from the Leeds Board for producing these stats which seems to answer the question for the SL era/period 1998-2009
Team Played Points For Against Diff
Leeds 330 478 10125 6373 3752
Saints 330 452 10635 6410 4225'"
But Senior says "team of the decade" which is also the title of this thread and referring to the decade ie 10 seasons 2000 - 2009
Leeds 277 395 8553 5597 +2956
Saints 277 413 8900 5128 +3777
Saints are top in every department!!
Thats without throwing in the CC Stats!!
Fiddle and flower it up as you like but the team of the decade are Saints............by a country mile!!
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| Quote ="DoubleAone"The Stats produced above say otherwise my friend
You are the top scorers ie The Entertainers...
granted but we out point you where and when it really matters.
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erm ello.
Phil Bentham = Harry sunderland winner, did more for leeds than sinfeild
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| Quote ="batman84"erm ello.
Phil Bentham = Harry sunderland winner, did more for leeds than sinfeild'"
Not that old chestnut...
we won by EIGHT points you do know that dont you.
blaming the officials is a sure sign of a lost game and a lost arguement.
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| Maybe he meant the decade starting at 2007?
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| Quote ="batman84"erm ello.
Phil Bentham = Harry sunderland winner, did more for leeds than sinfeild'"
Quote ="Tony Soprano"'"
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| Defo offside. Leeds have finished top of Super League as many time as Wigan, and Wigan have been utter gash.
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| Quote ="Albino Wolf 2"Can you? and do you?.......... I can't and don't!
Lets do a poll of Rugby League supporters and players........
During the next decade which would you prefer your team to do??
A) Win 3 SL Grand Finals 5 Challenge Cups (incl 3 in a row) and finish top of SL 5 times.
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B) Win 4 SL Grand Finals (incl 3 in a row) not win the Challenge Cup at all and finish top of SL twice
The man's a buffoon!!'"
B. the c/c just a minor distraction lmao
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| Quote ="Albino Wolf 2"Can you? and do you?.......... I can't and don't!
Lets do a poll of Rugby League supporters and players........
During the next decade which would you prefer your team to do??
A) Win 3 SL Grand Finals 5 Challenge Cups (incl 3 in a row) and finish top of SL 5 times.
or
B) Win 4 SL Grand Finals (incl 3 in a row) not win the Challenge Cup at all and finish top of SL twice
The man's a buffoon!!'" The problem lies with the concept that the Challenge Cup is devalued because it is nowt but a Knockout comp played by amateur and pro's alike, but is not supported by SKY. Whereas the grand final being a knockout comp for the top eight teams IS supported and hailed by the Sky pundits, aka the Ex-Pat and the Cheshire cat,( who think that THEY are the only voice in rugby league), as being the ultimate final
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| Quote ="diehardofowld"The problem lies with the concept that the Challenge Cup is devalued because it is nowt but a Knockout comp played by amateur and pro's alike, but is not supported by SKY. Whereas the grand final being a knockout comp for the top eight teams IS supported and hailed by the Sky pundits, aka the Ex-Pat and the Cheshire cat,( who think that THEY are the only voice in rugby league), as being the ultimate final'"
I wonder what the attendence comparison is between the GF and CC?
I always maintain that this team would blow away many champion teams
1. Paul Wellens
2 Sean Hoppe
3 Kevin Iro
4 Paul Newlove - Newlove made Senior look stupid time in time out.
5 Anthony Sullivan
6 Tommy Martyn
7 Sean Long
8 Dave Fairleigh
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| Quote ="eddiewaringsflatcap"I wonder what the attendence comparison is between the GF and CC?
I always maintain that this team would blow away many champion teams
1. Paul Wellens
2 Sean Hoppe
3 Kevin Iro
4 Paul Newlove - Newlove made Senior look stupid time in time out.
5 Anthony Sullivan
6 Tommy Martyn
7 Sean Long
8 Dave Fairleigh
9 Keiron Cunningham
10 Sonny Nickle
11 Chris Joynt
12 Peter Shiels
13 Paul Sculthorpe'"
Hoppe and Iro combination, what a winner that was.
Sonny Knuckles at prop though? Over our Jammer?
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| Quote ="Supreme Sydney2002"Hoppe and Iro combination, what a winner that was.
Sonny Knuckles at prop though? Over our Jammer?'"
That was the team from 2001, Syd...
No team in the decade would get close to it. It had Scully, Long and KC at their peak, and Dave Fairleigh was a star buy...
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| Quote ="Supreme Sydney2002"
Sonny Knuckles at prop though? Over our Jammer?'"
Of course if you were losing send in Sonny to break a few jaws where as FGB would stand there point, jump up and down, spit him dummy out and walk off in a huff.
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| Quote ="eddiewaringsflatcap"That was the team from 2001, Syd...
No team in the decade would get close to it. It had Scully, Long and KC at their peak, and Dave Fairleigh was a star buy...'"
The team that didn't make the GF?
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| Quote ="eddiewaringsflatcap"That was the team from 2001, Syd...
No team in the decade would get close to it. It had Scully, Long and KC at their peak, and Dave Fairleigh was a star buy...'"
They probably would. That team finished 4th in the league in 2001
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| Quote ="Tony Soprano"The team that didn't make the GF?'"
Well spotted, but to me I don't really care. It was the continuation of the 2000 team and defeated probably thre best NRL team to visit these shores this decade. I am aware that the value of WCC's is questioned, but the Brisbane one was a great game.
The team ran out of steam that year. We won the CC, but came to a stuttering end due to a bad run of injuries - I think it was the season where Millward used the F word something like 30-odd times in a minute after one match...
For pure rugby the 2000 -2001 Saints team was probably the best and most stylish IMO.
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| Quote ="eddiewaringsflatcap"Well spotted, but to me I don't really care. It was the continuation of the 2000 team and defeated probably thre best NRL team to visit these shores this decade. I am aware that the value of WCC's is questioned, but the Brisbane one was a great game.
The team ran out of steam that year. We won the CC, but came to a stuttering end due to a bad run of injuries - I think it was the season where Millward used the F word something like 30-odd times in a minute after one match...
For pure rugby the 2000 -2001 Saints team was probably the best and most stylish IMO.'"
Nice buffing but your team of the decade still finished 4th behind Hull and failed to make the grand final
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| Since 2000 leeds have won more titles than any other super league team.
So in that sense i guess they have a claim as the title is the main trophy teams aim for.
But saints have won far more CC's and overall trophies since then. So saints are still the best team of the last decade.
When judging something like this you have to go on trophies.
Someone earlier in the thread was quoting a line up and a style of play and claiming that was the team of the decade.
But that saints team finished 4th (a leeds team in heavy transition finished just behind them) and they didn't even collect the title. So it's ludicrous to suggest that side is the team of the decade.
I think in future when people look back on the recent era (last 5 or so years) saints will be remembered as a great team who never won the titles they should have.
Leeds have won 4 titles in the last 6 years, if they can remain up there for another 4 years then maybe they can claim the decade from 2004 to 2014.
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| but we all know one GF = three CC wins
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| Quote ="eddiewaringsflatcap"I wonder what the attendence comparison is between the GF and CC?
I always maintain that this team would blow away many champion teams
1. Paul Wellens
2 Sean Hoppe
3 Kevin Iro
4 Paul Newlove - Newlove made Senior look stupid time in time out.
5 Anthony Sullivan
6 Tommy Martyn
7 Sean Long
8 Dave Fairleigh
9 Keiron Cunningham
10 Sonny Nickle
11 Chris Joynt
12 Peter Shiels
13 Paul Sculthorpe'"
That was a wonderful team to watch but was a bit light up front. When you got to the bench it was the likes of Stankevitch and Jonkers, and we lacked a bit of grunt in the second row.
I think the 2006 side would take that one, but for sheer class that side was a joy to watch when it clicked.
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| Quote ="DoubleAone"but we all know one GF = three CC wins
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| Quote ="eddiewaringsflatcap"
4 Paul Newlove - Newlove made Senior look stupid time in time out.
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The Judge to Paul Newlove: "Paul, you're the only man that could sleep with my wife with my permission."
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| Quote ="Tony Soprano"Nice buffing but your team of the decade still finished 4th behind Hull and failed to make the grand final
'" You know stuff like that, stuff like facts, is irrelevant to an objective appraisal of the brilliance of "the mighty S". Its' just the way they play that makes them superior, win, lose, lose, lose or draw.
If I were a fan of a team that had a blue and amber monkey on my back for three straight years I'd find it really challenging to pretend my team was really the team of the decade, especially as you've limped out of the decade with such a whimper.
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| Quote ="Dougy" Leeds have finished top of Super League as many time as Wigan, and Wigan have been utter gash.'" I know this a Saints forum but you might just want to check the accuracy of your ramblings before you post them sunshine.
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| Quote ="Dux"That was a wonderful team to watch but was a bit light up front. When you got to the bench it was the likes of Stankevitch and Jonkers, and we lacked a bit of grunt in the second row.
I think the 2006 side would take that one, but for sheer class that side was a joy to watch when it clicked.'"
with you on that, the 2006 the best St. Helens team ever, if you could mix and match i would have BIG DAVE FAIRLEIGH in there what a player
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