Pryce ain't your typical stand off. He likes to sit back and drift in and out of games.

He ain't a ball player and not got a kicking game but is lethal with ball in hand.

For pryce to make a impact at stand off he needs a ball playing scrum half that can control the game and make space for pryce to attack.

At the moment England and even saints don't have that type of scrum half which allows pryce to play his normal game.

IMO longs poor form has not helped leons game as he has to get involved in the ball playing to often.

He is a player that don't really suite any postion.

i think what your trying to say is pryce is a runner!! braking tackles and getting through the gap with power and pace is his game.

as ive said before, ando was good a getting pryce running at tierd and or disjointed defences with quick play the ball. in games where the defence is in control or the other team are world class defenders from 1-17 like the aussies pryce offers very little.

Someone somewhere - was it on Boots'n'All? - suggested recently that one reason why Pryce and Burrow didn't go well in the world cup was because both are spontaneous players whereas what was really needed was one organiser and one spontaneous player working together. That might have been hogwash though, I don't know. What I do know is that when Pryce is allowed/encouraged/free to play to his talent, he is awesome. Perhaps it all boils down to Smith not knowing his world cup team well enough and not being able to bring out the best in the players he had chosen.

if burrow and maggs start in the halves pryce has to play full back!

as said on here i think maggs at 7 and pryce at 6 would work better for england. as you say pryce and burrow are both runners.

I think Leons future will be at loose forward and if Eastmond/Wheeler are the half backs this will be where he will play.
This provides us with a new dynasty of Roby/Eastmond/Wheeler/Pryce controlling the game in the same manner of Cunningham/Long/Martyn/Sculthorpe.
The only doubt is Eastmond hope is gets to the level of Long.

That's spot on IMO. Pryce is a runner who drifts in and out of games so he needs a scrum half ball player who can control a game.

We all know pryce likes to be ball player but that was Sam burgess balls.

I still can't believe he did that. I'd love to ask him why he did!

IIRC, they both said it was only a laugh after the game. I could be wrong, but i think there mates away from the field, and it was just a joke.

You know, Pryce really should choose his mates better! They just get him into trouble!

Maybe he had seen Sam in the showers and thought mmmmmm Id love a feel and just couldn't help himself

If they're such good mates, he should get his mate over here to replace cayless

To be impartial on this.

I went into the world cup favouring Pryce at standoff, but came out of it thinking he was somewhat limited.
Pryce is excellent at capitalising on a team playing on the front foot, but when faced with a side that wouldnt let England get on the front foot, his game collapsed completely.
Look at Pryces game and you can see its based on broken field running especially from dummy half. He has a long pass, but isnt a play maker, more an offloader in the tackle, and his kicking game is very poor.
A well organised defensive unit merely prevents him running from dummy half and stops him offloading. With that his game is nullified completely.
The Aussies, Kiwis and even PNG managed to do this to him.
Leeds also did a similar thing in the grand final where he was completely anonymous.

For me Mcguire while not outstanding, proved a capable half at international level. He showed that his game is maturing, and he is now more than just a try poacher. He directed the team far better across the park than Pryce, and offered a threat even with a team finding the going tough. In short he played like a standoff.

McGuire couldn't lace Prycey's boots.

Pryce deserves another chance at 6 Imo. He is better than Mcguire.

Pryce was awfull in the word cup but he was also awfull in our last 5 or so games in the Super league last season. I blame it on personal issues.

He is on fire again this season.

What GB lack is a great Scrum Half who can organise a team. Burrows cant do it imo.

theres a rounded view

yeah!! glad to see you all have forgotten how mcguire has out played pryce time and time again in the biggest games at club and world level

summed up to perfection

So Mcguire outplayed Pryce because he was on the winning team ? Give over man. Mcguire was shizzer in last years grand final.
He had his forwards and Lee Smith to thank.

I've always been a massive fan of Pryce, but the above post is spot-on - the guy is a flat-track bully.

Playing well in a great team like Saints have been over the years (getting almost two-thirds possession in some games) can distort people's view in terms of his effect in more competitive games and in this respect, McGuire is more likely to deliver.

Wilkin/Sinfield and Pryce would be a good pairing.

Dont care what anyone says
Wilkin when called upon has always had great games at scrum half

Look at Scully - Man of Steel playing mainly at stand off(I think?)

Wilkin is a great player when given more responsibility. He is wasted as a second rower.

I rate Burrow, but doesnt give the direction longy gives on his day. Which is what England Needs.

Would have to be Sinfield or Wilkin for me, with Pryce
Burrow on the bench.

i dont know if I rate Mcguire or not, He doesnt seemed to have improved as a plyer at all in the last couple of years.

Lets hope Some youngsters progress in the next couple of years because we have lost a lot of quality english players in recent years, and we havnt replaced them

Are you drunk!?

Scully won it at stand off, not scrum half.
Wilkin is a second rower/loose forward, not front rower.

Scully a scrum half?!!!

He played most at either stand off or loose.

When scully moved from loose to stand off I thought he wouldn't make a stand off as long as he lived.

How wrong was I! He played his best rugby at 6 for saints and for GB.

I still get position names wrong.

Scully did have his best games at Stand Off
and
Wilkin has arguably had his best games at stand off/scrum half(which ever it was).

I think people underestimate Wilkins quality.

I think you overestimate it.

He can get away with it at SL level, he'd be as effective as Ricky Bibey there at international level.

As for Sinfield at 7, deary me today. Just like Wilkin he's not really good enough at the higher level that is Representative RL.