A Saints win would have been better for us tonight, but Brough and Obst kicked you to death.

Saints lacked a leader, someone with the nous to play the game at the right end of the park.

You had enough experience out there to do it, but maybe not the right man. The young second rowers tried hard but struggled (understandably) and the loss of Lomax made it hard for you to change things.

Can't argue with any of that.

You mean it's killing our ability to run from dummy half.

I think the rain affects our kick returns a great deal.

Neither winger is particularly confident under the kick which means we let the ball run further than other teams do as they dilly dally before picking up the ball, and Wellens is as slow as they come these days. This means that on most kick returns we're starting the set a good 10 metres further back than we could/should be.

Nobody asked him to mucker, he said he is kicking on friday night, and thats what he did. The guy put his hand up and just went on with it, maybe he should have bailed after kick 4 or 5, but by this time and with the kick being EASY , he just continued onwards with the job he said he would do, unfortunatley it wasnt his night. Still got a massive willy though.