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| hi to all you southstander posters out there old and new
it's at this time of the year where us know it all posters predict how the new season will pan out before a ball has even been kicked
as i have repeatedly said each year this is not a serious competition and it is only a bit of light hearted fun
i therefore once again urge all of the southstander.com big hitters and especially those regular posters that have opinions on every subject and will argue their point until the cows come home 
to make their predictions this year
congratulations to "smokey ta" who finished top of the league in 2015,
can anyone dethrone him in 2016?
if tvoc is prepared to undertake the scoring of the competition yet again this year then i propose that we replicate last seasons competition and that we.......
a: predict the regular season finishing positions after 23 rounds
b: predict the top 4 play off sides that will make the play off's after the top 8 split
c: predict which 4 sides will rejoin sl for the following season through their play off series of games
d: grand final winner
e: challenge cup winner
craigizzard proposed this system last season to determine how the points would be awarded
Quote ="craigizzard"It's tricky, but what I would suggest is the "usual" scoring system for the selections after 23 rounds (ie. 0 points for getting the selection correct, 3 points for being 3 positions out etc.)
Then MINUS two points for each of the top 4 correctly positioned (MINUS one point for getting a top 4 team right but in the wrong position), MINUS one point for each of the "returning to SL" teams correctly identified, and MINUS three points for each of the GF and CC winners.
Lowest score wins.'"
tvoc who has kindly adjudicated and posted the final finishing positions each season agreed that they were the easiest way to award points under the new play off structures.
so the points scoring system should stay the same imo
my regular season finishing positions are:
1: warriors
2: rhinos
3: saints
4: giants
5: tigers
6: dragons
7: wolves
8: hull fc
9: hull kr
10: wildcats
11: red devils
12: vikings
the final top 4 play off sides will be
1: wigan
2: saints
3: rhinos
4: giants
the 4 sides that will rejoin sl in 2017 will be
9: hull kr
10: wildcats
11: red devils
12: centurions
gf winner: rhinos
cc winner: saints |
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Regular season - 23 weeks
1. Leeds
2. Wigan
3. Warrington
4. Saints
5. Dragons
6. Giants
7. Hull FC
8. Salford
Bottom 4
9. Cas
10. Hull KR
11. Wakefield
12. Widnes
Top 4 Play off sides
1. Leeds
2. Dragons
3. Warrington
4. Wigan
4 sides to stay in SL
1. Hull KR
2. Cas
3. Leigh
4. Halifax
Winners
GF - Leeds
CC - Dragons
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Here you go:
Regular season:
1. Saints
2. Warriors
3. Rhinos
4. Wolves
5. Dragons
6. Hull
7. Giants
8. Tigers
Top 4 after playoffs:
1. Saints
2. Rhinos
3. Warriors
4. Wolves
Remain in SL:
1. Reds
2. Hull KR
3. Wildcats
4. Vikings
GF winners: Rhinos
CC winners: Warriors
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my regular season finishing positions are:
1: Rhinos
2: Wigan
3: Dragons
4: Giants
5: Saints
6: Tigers
7: Wolves
8: Hull KR
9: Salford
10: Hull FC
11: Wildcats
12: Vikings
the final top 4 play off sides will be
1: Wigan (LLS)
2: Rhinos
3: Dragons
4: Saints
4 to re-join 2017:
9: Hull FC
10: Wildcats
11: Salford
12: Bradford
GF Winner: Rhinos (Vs [iUnsure[/i)
CC Winner: Saints (Vs Wigan)
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1. Wigan Warriors
2. Red Devils
3. Wildcats
4. Vikings
5. Hull KR
6. Hull FC
7. Giants
8. Tigers
9, Dragons
10. Wolves
11. Saints
12 Rhinos
Top 4 after playoffs:
1. Wigan
2. Red Devils
3. WIldcats
4. Vikings
Remain in SL:
1. Dragons
2. Wolves
3. Centurions
4. Bulls
GF winners: Wigan Warriors
CC winners: Wigan Warriors
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1. Wigan
2. Leeds
3. St Helens
4. Warrington
5. Catalans
6. Hull
7. Huddersfield
8. Castleford
9. Hull KR
10. Wakefield
11. Salford
12. Widnes
Top 4 after playoffs
1. Leeds
2. Wigan
3. St Helens
4. Catalans
Return to SL
HKR
Wakefield
Salford
Widnes
CC St Helens
GF Leeds
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Regular season:
1. Wigan
2. Leeds
3. St Helens
4. Huddersfield
5. Catalans
6. Castleford
7. Hull KR
8. Warrington
9. Hull FC
10. Salford
11. Wakefield
12. Widnes
Top 4 for the playoffs:
1. Leeds
2. Wigan
3. St Helens
4. Huddersfield
Return to SL:
9. Hull FC
10. Salford
11. Wakefield
12. Widnes
GF winner - St Helens
CC winner - Leeds
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1 - Leeds
2 - Wigan
3 - Saints
4 - Cas
5 - Hudds
6 - Warrington
7 - Catalans
8 - Hull
9 - HKR
10 - Widnes
11 - Wakefield
12 - Salford
Top 4
1 - Wigan
2 - Leeds
3 - Saints
4 - Cas
Promoted to SL
HKR
Widnes
Wakey
Leigh
GF - Wigan
CC - Leeds
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Regular season
1 Wigan
2 Saints
3 Leeds
4 Wire
5 Catalan
6 Giants
7 Cas
8 HKR
9 Wakefield
10 Hull
11 Widnes
12 Salford
play off top 4
1 Wigan
2 Leeds
3 Saints
4 Wire
return to SL
Hull
Wakefield
Widnes
Leigh
GF Leeds
CC Saints
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Regular season:
1. Wigan
2. Leeds
3. Warrington
4. Saints
5. Catalans
6. Huddersfield
7. Castleford
8. Hull FC
9. Hull KR
10. Salford
11. Wakefield
12. Widnes
Top 4 for the playoffs:
1. Wigan
2. Leeds
3. Saints
4. Warrington
Return to SL:
9. Hull KR
10. Salford
11. Wakefield
12. Widnes
GF winner - Leeds
CC winner - Warrington
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1 Wigan
2 St. Helens
3 Leeds
4 Warrington
5 Catalans
6 Huddesfield
7 Castleford
8 hull
9 hull kr
10 Salford
11 Wakefield
12 Widnes
Top 4
Wigan
Leeds
St. Helens
Warrington
Return to super league
Hull kr
Salford
Wakefield
Leigh
GF Wigan
Cc leeds
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Wigan
Saints
Leeds
Huddersfield
Warrington
Castleford
Les Catalans
Hull FC
Hull KR
Widnes
Salford
Wakefield
Top 4:
Wigan
Saints
Leeds
Warrington
Bottom 4 to return to SL through the Qualifiers
GF: Wigan
CC: Saints
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Regular season
1: Wigan
2: Rhinos
3: Saints
4: Wolves
5: Giants
6: Dragons
7: Tigers
8: Hull FC
9: Hull KR
10: Red Devils
11: Widnes
12: Wildcats
Top 4
Wigan (LLS)
Rhinos
Saints
Wolves
Teams to rejoin SL in 2017
Hull KR
Red Devils
Widnes
Wildcats
GF: Rhinos
CC: Saints
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Wigan
Leeds
St.Helens
Catalans
Warrington
Hull
Huddersfield
Castleford
Hull KR
Widnes
Salford
Wakefield
Top 4:
Leeds (LLS)
Wigan
St.Helens
Warrington
Bottom 4 all back to SL for 2017
GF: Wigan
CC: Leeds
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Rhinos
Wigan
Saints
Wolves
Giants
Tigers
Dragons
Hull FC
Hull KR
Widnes
Salford
Wakefield
TOP 4
Wigan
Rhinos
Saints
Wolves
SL for 2017
Hull KR
Widnes
Wakefield
Batley Bulldogs
Challenge Cup- Dragons
Grand Final- Saints
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Regular season
1: Wigan Warriors
2: Leeds Rhinos
3: St Helens
4: Catalan Dragons
5: Warrington Wolves
6: Huddersfield Giants
7: Castleford Tigers
8: Hull FC
9: Wakefield Wildcats
10: Salford Red Devils
11: Widnes Vikings
12: Hull Kingston Rovers
Top 4
Wigan Warriors (LLS)
Leeds Rhinos
St Helens
Catalan Dragons
Teams to rejoin SL in 2017
Wakefield Wildcats
Hull Kingston Rovers
Salford Red Devils
Widnes Vikings
GF: Wigan Warriors
CC: Leeds Rhinos
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Regular season
1: St Helens
2: Leeds Rhinos
3: Wigan Warriors
4: Warrington Wolves
5: Catalans Dragons
6: Castleford Tigers
7: Huddersfield Giants
8: Salford Red Devils
9: Wakefield Wildcats
10: Hull FC
11: Widnes Vikings
12: Hull Kingston Rovers
Top 4
St Helens (LLS)
Wigan Warriors
Leeds Rhinos
Warrington Wolves
Teams to rejoin SL in 2017
Wakefield Wildcats
Hull FC
Widnes Vikings
Hull Kingston Rovers
GF: Leeds Rhinos
CC: Saint Helens
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Regular season:
1. Leeds
2. Wigan
3. St Helens
4. Castleford
5. Catalans
6. Warrington
7. Huddersfield
8. Hull KR
9. Hull FC
10. Wakefield
11. Salford
12. Widnes
Top 4 for the playoffs:
1. Leeds
2. Wigan
3. St Helens
4. Catalans
Return to SL:
9. Hull FC
10. Wakefield
11. Salford
12. Widnes
GF winner - Leeds
CC winner - Leeds
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Regular season
1. Wigan
2. Leeds
3. Warrington
4.Hudds
5. St Helens
6. Les Catalans
7. Castleford
8. Salford
9. Hull FC
10. Wakefield
11. WIdnes
12 Hull KR
Top 4 for play offs
1.Wigan
2. Leeeds
3. Les Catalans
4. Hudds.
Same 4 to come back up.
GF winner-Wigan
CC Winner- St Helens.
Les Catalans were the ones i struggles to place. I think they will be a very dangerous side next year, always good at home so if they can go 'ok' away they will be there or thereabouts, some really big names there that should pull them through and i dont think anyone would fancy going there if they can get a home play-off. Conversely they are often just terrible.
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After 23-
1-Pies
2-Leeds
3-ST's
4-Wire
5-Cas
6-Giants
7-Dragons
8-HKR
9-FC
10-Widnes
11-Wakey
12-Salford
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ST's
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Return to SL
FC
Vikings
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GF-Rhinos
CC-ST's.
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Regular Season
1 Wigan
2 Leeds
3 Warrington
4 Saints
5 Huddersfield
6 Catalans
7 Castleford
8 Hull KR
9 Hull FC
10 Wakefield
11 Salford
12 Widnes
Top 4
1 Wigan
2 Leeds
3 Saints
4 Warrington
Return to SL
Hull FC
Wakefield
Bradford
Leigh
GF- Wigan
CC- Saints
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1. Wigan
2. Leeds
3. St Helens
4. Castleford
5. Warrington
6. Huddersfield
7. Catalans
8. Hull FC
9. Salford
10. Hull KR
11. Widnes
12. Wakefield
Top 4
1. Wigan
2. Leeds
3. St Helens
4. Castleford
Back in SL
1. Salford
2. Hull KR
3. Widnes
4. Wakefield
Challenge Cup
Leeds
Grand Final
Wigan
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1. Wigan
2. Saints
3. Wire
4. Leeds
5. Cas
6. Hull
7. Hudds
8. Catalans
9. HKR
10. Salford
11. Widnes
12. Wakey
Top 4 after the 8s:
1. Wigan
2. Saints
3. Leeds
4. Wire
Bottom four all to return to SL.
CC - Warrington
GF - Leeds
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1. Wigan
2. St Helens
3. Leeds
4. Warrington
5. Castleford
6. Huddersfield
7. Hull FC
8. Catalans
9. Salford
10. Wakefield
11. Hull KR
12. Widnes
Top 4
1. Wigan
2. St Helens
3. Leeds
4. Warrington
Back in SL
1. Salford
2. Wakefield
3. Hull KR
4. Widnes
Challenge Cup
Wigan
Grand Final
Leeds
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Regular season - 23 weeks
1. Saints
2. Wigan
3. Leeds
4. Catalans
5. Warrington
6. Huddersfield
7. Hull FC
8. Castleford
Bottom 4
9. Hull KR
10. Salford
11. Widnes
12. Wakefield
Top 4 Play off sides
1. Saints
2. Wigan
3. Catalans
4. Leeds
4 sides to stay in SL
1. Hull KR
2. Salford
3. Bradford
4. Wakefield
Winners
GF - Saints
CC - Wigan
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