How good was Cuthbertson tonight? Anyone got the offload stats? Turning out to be one of the shrewdest signings in a lot of years.

He was excellent. Teams are going to get wise to the offload and work out ways to counter it in the 2nd half of the season, but he'll still get a few away & it'll create more space for others too.

you may know what's coming, but stopping it is another matter. Also, shutting it down should create gaps elsewhere

That's what I meant.



Also the uncertainty of whether he'll run at the line or throw a late pass from first receiver will trouble a lot of defences, FGB-style.

It makes you wonder why other props don't try the same he makes it look so easy.... Think he had a hand in most of the tries. He is Leeds' primary weapon in attack at the moment. An excellent signing on performances to date. Long may it continue

he guy can punch holes through anyone and with an off load..... i was skeptical when we first signed him, but happy to be very wrong about him. exactly what we needed

Cuthbo is the real deal. Brain Mac confirming he rested Peacock in the final 1/4. Who would have thought that might be an option 12 months ago.

Exactly. Some people see it very black & white and get obsessed with who we'll buy when Peacock and Leuluai retire as their replacements and that those guys will be the 'transition'......reality is that the transition is happening right now with the likes of Cuthbertson and Singleton even though Peacock and Leuluai are still here. Add to that the impact Aiton and Stevie Ward are having and that again is more of the transition that people keep harping on about happening in the future.....except it's happening right now in front of our eyes.

Singleton & Yates both got more game time than hitherto & neither let us down.
Singleton especially continues to impress, being brought along slowly & steadily seems to be working.
But Wigan's pack were thankfully very disappointing.

Pleasantly surprised that Yates came on when the scores were tight at 16-14 and got a decent chunk of time. Previously in that kind of situation and game he'd have been left on the bench until the 78th minute at best.

Cuthbertson plays like a leader, he could be the man to replace Kevin Sinfield as our next skipper.

If Ward keeps getting better as he is right now I recon It could be him.

Cuthbertson has probably the best hands and eye for a pass I've seen in a Leeds prop since Lee Crooks.

Also seems to be developing a good understanding with his team-mates, who are getting to know the lines he runs and where to be when he takes the ball into contact.

Just need to be sure we don't kill the goose that lays the golden egg by over-working him. He looked absolutely gassed in the last five minutes when the game opened up a bit.

Interesting that in his post-match interview he spoke about Brian Mac giving him the confidence to play his game, and working with him personally on the bits of his game that are weaker. I can only imagine he's talking about defence, where he can be a bit "grabby" in the tackle sometimes rather than getting in with the shoulder.

How is seeing the inevitable being obsessed exactly?
Whilst Cuthbertson has proved to be a cracking signing thus far we will still need to replace JP and Leuluai or are you suggesting AC carries the pack ala JP has for the last 2/3 years?
Singleton again has earned his spot in the 17 but i doubt whether he will be able to do it week in week out yet so we still need at the very least 1 more "gun" prop that's without allowing for injury/rotation.
Yates is still raw as is Mulhern.
If we get Rapira that could be another good addition to the FR and would fill the gap going forward but forward planning in the pack and at HB is still very much needed imo that's not an obsession that's just a fact.

I think we are one decent signing away from fixing the pack after JP. 2 signings would be awesome.

Leuluai's easily replaceable, based on 2015 form. He wasn't missed last night in the slightest. Yates did some minutes off the bench and filled that gap pretty confidently, and I'd be happy to see him stay in the 17.

Is the 2015 version of Jamie Peacock that irreplaceable? No longer doing the massive minutes, and when he is on the field he looks liable to give away a penalty in every tackle he takes so long to get out of the ruck. Don't get me wrong, still a good player but nowhere near the JP of 2007-2013 say.

One more senior prop (whether it's from SL or the NRL) and I reckon Leeds will be fine. A rotation of Cuthbertson, AN Other, Singleton, Yates, Mulhern, Baldwinson would do me for 2016.

A cracking player. But he's no Kyle Amor.

Interesting stat - Cuthbertson has made more carries this season than Kirke made all last year!

I have been nothing but impressed with Cuthbo - we need to get a chant sorted for him.

We need to hope that he stays injury free & that the coach doesn't run him into the ground.

Now then mate, obviously being 12,000 miles from HQ I don't really pic up the chants on TV. what are you currently chanting? One Adam Cuthbo! That just about works.

He made 7 offloads going by the stats.

Other things from the stats, whilst Peacock isn't quite the Peacock of old his numbers still look pretty impressive

24 tackles, 0 missed, 17 carries for 149m (8.76 avg.), 0 penalties

Nod to JJB who I think under the radar has done well also this year playing in the middle.

31 tackles and 13 carries for 93m (7.15 avg.)

Noticed Moon only made 5 carries, this along with Ablett seemingly looking reluctant to pass to him for those two chances makes me wonder if they were being cautious about giving him too much ball after his concussion last week......which would beg the question then of why play him?

The most alarming stats though came from Wigan. Both starting props were on the field long enough to make plenty of tackles, Clubb (33) & Mossop (23)......yet they only made SEVEN carries between them the whole game (Clubb 3, Mossop 4)......if you play a game of RL and your starting props only make 7 carries the whole game then you've gone badly wrong.

Cuthbertson has already replaced Kylie. Kylie and Singleton have taken Kirke and Bailey's spots in the 17. So we don't need to replace both. We'll sign one prop for next season to replace JP, and we'll promote one of Yates, Mulhearn, or Baldwinson to replace Kylie.

Agree - like to see the youngsters get game time ahead of Kylie

He has been amazing.

I'd want to see how this Leeds pack goes against someone decent before anointing them. Wigan aren't worth using as a gauge these days. Very poor.

At Saints for instance, Walmsley and Vea individually, made double the metres against Wire, that Mossop, Clubb and Patrick combined put up against you. Amor had more metres than those three combined also. Walmsley averaging over 150m a game.

Been very impressed with Leeds and it's good to see the two classiest clubs in the game back at the top fighting it out. However, as good as Leeds and Cuthbertson have looked, it'd be a brave man that picked against that group of Saints forwards.