From a good source this years Xmas market you will no longer be able to have your beers in the large steins and problems with council and the licence police and it will close every
Afternoon everybody must leave and start again because of success pubs make
Trouble

Have the council banned punctuation too?

Must be true - there's two threads about it!

......and?

Well there's always the Bierkeller..

just letting the people of leeds who have been before,if you went in the afternoon to make a night of it.now you will have to vacate the place and go to the back of the queue.

If you want to spend all day in there you either have money to burn or a hatred of all the other drinking establishments in the centre



...and that's not even going into how long you have to queue to usually get in

So two changes to the temporary alcohol licence that is needed, both in order to control drunkenness and conduct after previous experiences ?

The police don't licence the outlets by the way, the magistrates do after considering evidence from any source who wants to offer it, including the police who have to deal with the after effects of all day drinking.

Sounds fair to me.

I usually just have a cup of that mulled wine or punch .Its very nice then I'm away.

Overrated. And overpriced.

Mega over priced infact

I went to the one in Manchester last year - makes ours look sh*te.

And it is nothing like a real German christmas market.

the same happened last year in manchester, the xmas market closed early.the local pubs and restaurants complained about loss of trade.as for overpriced £7 for 2 pints(£3.50 for a pint) you will pay that and more anywhere in leeds

No I won't. Hence why it's overpriced. £3:50 a pint? Pfft!

You seem to be just focused on the alcohol sales and it appears that there is a common theme between at least Leeds and Manchester where alcohol sales licence restrictions have been placed because of problems. Its quite normal for other licenced outlets to object to new locations opening up and its part of the planning and licencing committees duties to consider these as part of their city centre strategy, their recommendations are taken into account together with the police opinion of crowd control/conduct.

Is your problem based on the fact that they (or is it you, what is your involvement) aren't allowed unrestricted sales of alcohol with no regard to the consequences, or is it something else ?


How about having the German Market with no alcohol sales outlet, just food and gifts, would that be acceptable to you ?

The food is the best part of the market

Agreed - I work literally a minutes walk from Millennium Square so most of my lunch hours are spend sampling the (limited) continental cuisine.

I've had a couple of great nights out in the beer tent with the daft Oompah Band but TBH, I wouldn't be heart broken if it was just food and gifts.

Seems strange as the few contacts I have at my disposal, both council and magistrates say that this rule hasn't been enforced yet. What has happened is that there has been a submission from a combined number of licensed premises with a police report stating that with the market open from 11am through to close at night, they have been experiencing high levels of intoxicated individuals.

This will go to a review panel however and the questions to be asked will be:

Why are other venues allowing intoxicated patrons onto their premises? (considering the licensing law dictates that anyone believed to be intoxicated should be refused admission/service)

Also the venues involved in the complaint are bars that even at this time of year are dead, because they're terrible bars. I will be very surprised if the marlet bars are forced to close during the day as it will not surpress alcohol issues. patrons will just move to another bar and come back. I think the steins may go and move back to standard pints only and maybe more enforcement on the rules, so drunken groups maybe asked to vacate after a period of time.


Personally I love the market, has a really good buzz in the lead up to Christmas. Nothing better than finishing work, going for a few pints and a bit of sausage and then moving on. Couldn't be d staying there all night though.

I will assume you don't drink at all in the city centre anymore then? £3.50 for a pint of lager is about standard

I enjoy the market....stalls....sausage....beer....good vibe....lights and stuff.

What's not to like?

I've heard you like a bit of sausage!

'well done sausage' as well.............apparently.........

Took me a couple of seconds to get that.

Fair call. Wasn't me at my most eloquent.