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GH wants to see wrestling policed more, Brian Mac wants to win with passing.
Wigan fans see lack of wrestling and free flowing rugby as some sort of personal insult for some reason
viewtopic.php?f=28&t=480069
Cant say I disagree with GH, it is effective but it really doesnt help the spectacle of the game, but we have been guilty of using these things aswell. And im not sure how we could police it.
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GH wants to see wrestling policed more, Brian Mac wants to win with passing.
Wigan fans see lack of wrestling and free flowing rugby as some sort of personal insult for some reason
viewtopic.php?f=28&t=480069
Cant say I disagree with GH, it is effective but it really doesnt help the spectacle of the game, but we have been guilty of using these things aswell. And im not sure how we could police it.
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Quote ="SmokeyTA"www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12196_6681014,00.html
GH wants to see wrestling policed more, Brian Mac wants to win with passing.
Wigan fans see lack of wrestling and free flowing rugby as some sort of personal insult for some reason
viewtopic.php?f=28&t=480069
Cant say I disagree with GH, it is effective but it really doesnt help the spectacle of the game, but we have been guilty of using these things aswell. And im not sure how we could police it.'"
No the personal insult is your ar$ehole chief exec directly complaining about our tactics and trying to make it sound that Wigan and McGuire directly damaging RL.
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Quote ="SmokeyTA"www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12196_6681014,00.html
GH wants to see wrestling policed more, Brian Mac wants to win with passing.
Wigan fans see lack of wrestling and free flowing rugby as some sort of personal insult for some reason
viewtopic.php?f=28&t=480069
Cant say I disagree with GH, it is effective but it really doesnt help the spectacle of the game, but we have been guilty of using these things aswell. And im not sure how we could police it.'"
No the personal insult is your ar$ehole chief exec directly complaining about our tactics and trying to make it sound that Wigan and McGuire directly damaging RL.
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| Quote ="Bill_Barlow"No the personal insult is your ar$ehole chief exec directly complaining about our tactics and trying to make it sound that Wigan and McGuire directly damaging RL.'"
Where has he referred to Wigan?
You do realise that only the bits in quotation marks are his comments and the rest is journalistic interpretation don't you?
Obviously hit a nerve!
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| Quote ="Bill_Barlow"No the personal insult is your ar$ehole chief exec directly complaining about our tactics and trying to make it sound that Wigan and McGuire directly damaging RL.'"
Where does Hetherington mention any club whatsoever?
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| The best way to police it is to call held the moment the ball carrier's forward progress ceases rather than allow defenders to wrestle the upright player and delay the tackle being completed.
However, that will reduce offloads and the type of entertaining broken field play that results from them.
Perhaps some of our pie-eating chums should take a closer look at the article and find anywhere that GH mentions either Michael Maguire or Nathan Brown or their respective clubs?
Any time you feel like coming back and apologising for not being able to comprehend the written word will be just fine Bill.
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| Quote ="Bill_Barlow"No the personal insult is your ar$ehole chief exec directly complaining about our tactics and trying to make it sound that Wigan and McGuire directly damaging RL.'"
I feel sorry for you coach that despite being your most successful coach in over a decade, many of your fans are unable to spell his name correctly
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| i don't blame wigan or anyone for trying it. The fault is with the refs for allowing it. Wigan did push it to far imo but can you blame them if it proves successful and they get away with it?
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| Quote ="Bill_Barlow"No the personal insult is your ar$ehole chief exec directly complaining about our tactics and trying to make it sound that Wigan and McGuire directly damaging RL.'"
If the "CAP" fits?
I really hope you dont get conned out of the wcc like we did last year.
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| Quote ="Bill_Barlow"No the personal insult is your ar$ehole chief exec directly complaining about our tactics and trying to make it sound that Wigan and McGuire directly damaging RL.'"
Re-read the article and it shows only 1 @r$ehole who's throwing insults around!
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| Quote ="rhinoms"Re-read the article and it shows only 1 @r$ehole who's throwing insults around!
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the "hicks from the sticks"in toy town wigan are getting upset again
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| To be fair to GH hes right!
Salford, Catalans, Quins and Wakey were 4 of the dullest negative defensive teams in the division. They certainly spoiled the game as a spectacle for their fans!
Im just glad Wigan stuck to out scoring teams
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| Quote ="Ian Roberts Closet"To be fair to GH hes right!
Salford, Catalans, Quins and Wakey were 4 of the dullest negative defensive teams in the division. They certainly spoiled the game as a spectacle for their fans!
Im just glad Wigan stuck to out scoring teams'"
do it again this season and prove it was'nt a fluke
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| Very interestingly Gary the gob forgets to mention that Wigans 922 points scored is higher than Leeds have managed in the past four seasons and 117 points more than when Leeds topped the table in 2009.
I would have thought after his tirade just before last years eliminator semi final at Headingley he would have learned to keep his mouth shut.
He's very poor mans Maurice Lindsay.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Very interestingly Gary the gob forgets to mention that Wigans 922 points scored is higher than Leeds have managed in the past four seasons and 117 points more than when Leeds topped the table in 2009.
I would have thought after his tirade just before last years eliminator semi final at Headingley he would have learned to keep his mouth shut.
He's very poor mans Maurice Lindsay.
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Lindsey took Wigan to financial ruin.Hetherington made Leeds the best run club in SL
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| I must say I found little wrong with watching Wigan's play last season ..... mores the pity.
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| More points doesn't always mean more entertaining.
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| Quote ="lionarmour87"do it again this season and prove it was'nt a fluke'"
Since when did finishing top and then going on to win the grand final become a fluke?
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| Quote ="tvoc"I must say I found little wrong with watching Wigan's play last season ..... mores the pity.'"
yes,but Gary has not once mentioned Wigan
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Very interestingly Gary the gob forgets to mention that Wigans 922 points scored is higher than Leeds have managed in the past four seasons and 117 points more than when Leeds topped the table in 2009.
I would have thought after his tirade just before last years eliminator semi final at Headingley he would have learned to keep his mouth shut.
He's very poor mans Maurice Lindsay.
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You along with many other Wigan fans need to take that huge chip of your shoulder and grow up.
What Hetherington said quite clearly was that the game had become more defense orientated and boring, =#FF0000over the last few years. Remind us again how many good seasons Wigan have had recently?
Hetherington makes it clear in the full interview that he included the highly successfull Leeds side in his view. Saints fans who crow about themselves been called "the entertainers" would tell you that Saints have not been as entertaining the last few years like they were when they inherited that nickname. This despite been successfull.
Learn to differentate between things. I thought you would have realised over most of the last 10 years, that the game does not revolve solely around Wigan.
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| Quote ="The Teacher"You along with many other Wigan fans need to take that huge chip of your shoulder and grow up.
What Hetherington said quite clearly was that the game had become more defense orientated and boring, =#FF0000over the last few years. Remind us again how many good seasons Wigan have had recently?
Hetherington makes it clear in the full interview that he included the highly successfull Leeds side in his view. Saints fans who crow about themselves been called "the entertainers" would tell you that Saints have not been as entertaining the last few years like they were when they inherited that nickname. This despite been successfull.
Learn to differentate between things. I thought you would have realised over most of the last 10 years, that the game does not revolve solely around Wigan.'"
good post well said
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| GHs responce to the Leeds win at the DW in the play offs (and everything that went with it) showed hes the ar$ehole and il happily stick to it.
As for GH not mentioning any club names we all know who hes digging at as did the journo 'thinly-disguised criticism of the defensive tactics introduced into Super League over the last three years by Australian coaches Michael Maguire and Nathan Brown at Wigan and Huddersfield respectively'
If GH isnt prepared to name who hes having a pop at then why does he mention it at all? Whose actually got anything out this interview? I dont see how admitting in an interview that we've slipped behind the times is going to put bums on seats, also saying were going to win our games by the best attacking rugby and everyother team should follow suit is aload of old tosh when Wigan a team hes having a 'secret' pop at played by far the best rugby in the comp. Maurice Lindsay knew the game had moved on and got out maybe GH should follow his old chum.
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| Quote ="lionarmour87"yes,but Gary has not once mentioned Wigan'"
I know. My reply was aimed more towards any poster on here not enjoying Wigan's winning style.
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| Quote ="Bill_Barlow"GHs responce to the Leeds win at the DW in the play offs (and everything that went with it) showed hes the ar$ehole and il happily stick to it.
As for GH not mentioning any club names we all know who hes digging at as did the journo 'thinly-disguised criticism of the defensive tactics introduced into Super League over the last three years by Australian coaches Michael Maguire and Nathan Brown at Wigan and Huddersfield respectively'
If GH isnt prepared to name who hes having a pop at then why does he mention it at all? Whose actually got anything out this interview? I dont see how admitting in an interview that we've slipped behind the times is going to put bums on seats, also saying were going to win our games by the best attacking rugby and everyother team should follow suit is aload of old tosh when Wigan a team hes having a 'secret' pop at played by far the best rugby in the comp. Maurice Lindsay knew the game had moved on and got out maybe GH should follow his old chum.'"
He probably knew not to name names, because look at the hissy fit from Wigan when they werent named in something they are adamant they dont do. Imagine if the collective apoplexy if he did name you.
Besides, Wigan didnt play the best rugby last year. They were very structured, a lot of kicking to the wings and games won on defence. Warrington played by far the more attractive rugby last year.
We all only 'know who he is talking about' because other people have picked up on the same thing. If Wigan didnt do these things and had an attractive attacking side which wins because of its attacking skill, then you should be supporting Hetherington and be even more desperate to get these things out of the game shouldnt you?
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"He probably knew not to name names, because look at the hissy fit from Wigan when they werent named in something they are adamant they dont do. Imagine if the collective apoplexy if he did name you.'"
Since when did a few knee-jerk fans on a message board become "Wigan"?
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| I have no issue with the increase in defensive wrestle in the game. I do have an issue with a lack of attacking ability to sufficiently break it down.
When the play the Aussies, or less so the Kiwis, do you think that we will beat them just by being able to defend a bit better, or will we have to be able to break down their defence with high quality attacking plays?
We need to improve the quality of our league in terms of both defence AND attack. They are not mutually exclusive.
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