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| Brian McDermott & Jimmy Lowes = IN
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I read into the rapid departure of McLennan that Gary Hetherington was hacked off by the release of Matt Diskin and a row ensued.
This row and more surprising saw supporters favourite Francis Cummins leave the club after so many years.
He's a massive capture for the Bulls as he'll have been soaking up information from McLennan and Smith (when he was at Leeds) for years and this information will be very much welcomed at Odsal by new coach Mick Potter.
The question I'm asking here after the loss of Diskin and key coaching personal is are we seeing the start of a sad decline for the Rhinos?
After what I saw today then YES!!!!!!!
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| Quote ="EmmaMur01"0/10'"
wow that's a tad generous imo
more like -1/10
mick if your so bored now-a-days that you have to post that cr4p to amuse yourself,why not take up gambling?
i just hope when/if we suffer our decline,that it is not as bad as your mobs meteoric demise was to the lower echelons of sl mediocrity
on the other hand if next season is as bad as you reckon it will be,maybe we could always have a £60 pledge the season after to bring all those fans that jumped off the "band waggon" back to the club
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| Quote ="Mick Gledhill"Brian McDermott & Jimmy Lowes = IN
McLennan & Cummins = OUT
I read into the rapid departure of McLennan that Gary Hetherington was hacked off by the release of Matt Diskin and a row ensued.
This row and more surprising saw supporters favourite Francis Cummins leave the club after so many years.
He's a massive capture for the Bulls as he'll have been soaking up information from McLennan and Smith (when he was at Leeds) for years and this information will be very much welcomed at Odsal by new coach Mick Potter.
The question I'm asking here after the loss of Diskin and key coaching personal is are we seeing the start of a sad decline for the Rhinos?'"
Now I'm gonna indulge you here Mick inspite of what emma rightly pointed out as your 0/10 trolling attempt.
Basically it's like this. The fact you are having to ask the question would suggest you don't know or don't really think Leeds are in decline.
When a team is in decline you don't have to ask you just know. Take the bulls for example there were no threads on your board asking are the bulls in decline? Because when a teams gone it's obvious for all to see to the point where Bradford arnt even thought of as a big team, the bulls club are seen as a team that would be lucky to make the play offs and it would be a big shock if the bulls got to a final let alone won a trophy. For example the bulls had their worst sl campaign ever in 2010 when bulls fans told us all you were better equipped than the season before to make a charge up the table. that is a team well and truley in it's decline. The same noises are coming out of the bulls club and from the fans that this season is the season when it all changes. I think most of us know the bulls will have a tough task again making the play offs! Why? Because they are a genuine team who are in free fall, especially judgeing last seasons campaign and with the recruitment of players surplus to requirement at their previous clubs, in honesty it's looking like much of the same.
I only really used the bulls mick because the bulls are your team and a great example of a club in decline and going backs at an unstoppable rate. I thought you might understand this better than most as seen as you are living been a fan of a club truley in decline.
When Leeds are in decline you won't need to ask you will know pal.
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| HOW IS YOUR SHOWBIZ CAREAR GOING mICK?
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| It wont be decline ,but we are expecting to go into a period of transition
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"Now I'm gonna indulge you here Mick inspite of what emma rightly pointed out as your 0/10 trolling attempt.
Basically it's like this. The fact you are having to ask the question would suggest you don't know or don't really think Leeds are in decline.
When a team is in decline you don't have to ask you just know. Take the bulls for example there were no threads on your board asking are the bulls in decline? Because when a teams gone it's obvious for all to see to the point where Bradford arnt even thought of as a big team, the bulls club are seen as a team that would be lucky to make the play offs and it would be a big shock if the bulls got to a final let alone won a trophy. For example the bulls had their worst sl campaign ever in 2010 when bulls fans told us all you were better equipped than the season before to make a charge up the table. that is a team well and truley in it's decline. The same noises are coming out of the bulls club and from the fans that this season is the season when it all changes. I think most of us know the bulls will have a tough task again making the play offs! Why? Because they are a genuine team who are in free fall, especially judgeing last seasons campaign and with the recruitment of players surplus to requirement at their previous clubs, in honesty it's looking like much of the same.
I only really used the bulls mick because the bulls are your team and a great example of a club in decline and going backs at an unstoppable rate. I thought you might understand this better than most as seen as you are living been a fan of a club truley in decline.
When Leeds are in decline you won't need to ask you will know pal.'"
For the record it wasn't a trolling attempt and another thing mate I don't see Bradford as a club in decline for one minute after the fact that we've sold over 10,500 season tickets to press, so how do you view this as an example of a club going into decline at an unstoppable rate?
What are sides like Castleford and Wakefield then?
How many season tickets have Leeds sold so far?
I don't predict big things for us next year, but I do foresee a massive improvement under Mick Potter and Francis Cummings and hence have the potential to be most improved side next season after the last two years where we've seen no playoff action.
We'll have 11 maybe 12 new players all to gel together and would expect narrow losses in the first two games, but as the season goes on and with the side having geld together, I think that we would as a club be in a playoff place and the chance to a strong finish to the season.
I really do think that Leeds will be the biggest under-achievers next year as the decline sets in at Headingley.
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| Quote ="lionarmour87"HOW IS YOUR SHOWBIZ CAREAR GOING mICK?'"
It's going well mate.
My next gig is the 28th (Sunday) and I have another lined up for the 6th.
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| Quote ="Mick Gledhill"the question I'm asking here after the loss of Diskin and key coaching personal is are we seeing the start of a sad decline for the Rhinos?'"
Oh, say it aint so Mick.....say it aint so!
Hang on a mo....you're talking about Diskin.... Matt Diskin?
As you were.
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| Same sh#t different day Gledhill stick to the bookies you'll have more credibility there.
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| Quote ="rhinoms"Same sh#t different day Gledhill stick to the bookies you'll have more credibility there.'"
Finding it hard to accept that Garys secret gold pot is running dry
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| Quote ="Mick Gledhill"For the record it wasn't a trolling attempt and another thing mate I don't see Bradford as a club in decline for one minute after the fact that we've sold over 10,500 season tickets to press, so how do you view this as an example of a club going into decline at an unstoppable rate?
What are sides like Castleford and Wakefield then?
How many season tickets have Leeds sold so far?
I don't predict big things for us next year, but I do foresee a massive improvement under Mick Potter and Francis Cummings and hence have the potential to be most improved side next season after the last two years where we've seen no playoff action.
We'll have 11 maybe 12 new players all to gel together and would expect narrow losses in the first two games, but as the season goes on and with the side having geld together, I think that we would as a club be in a playoff place and the chance to a strong finish to the season.
I really do think that Leeds will be the biggest under-achievers next year as the decline sets in at Headingley.'"
eerm Mick, I'll let you into a wee secret. It's not the number of season tickets you sell, even at your bargain basement prices, it's how the team performs out there on the pitch that decides whether you are a class act or not.
And your 1 win out of your last 13 games would suggest you are the SL equivalent of a very large pile of elephant droppings.
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| Quote ="BillyRhino"icon_lol.gif eerm Mick, I'll let you into a wee secret. It's not the number of season tickets you sell, even at your bargain basement prices, it's how the team performs out there on the pitch that decides whether you are a class act or not.
And your 1 win out of your last 13 games would suggest you are the SL equivalent of a very large pile of elephant droppings.'"
Some people have paid £199 for a season ticket so I fail to see how this would be classed as a bargain basement price?
Is Leeds really that out of sync with the real world?
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| Quote ="Mick Gledhill"For the record it wasn't a trolling attempt and another thing mate I don't see Bradford as a club in decline for one minute after the fact that we've sold over 10,500 season tickets to press, so how do you view this as an example of a club going into decline at an unstoppable rate?
What are sides like Castleford and Wakefield then?
How many season tickets have Leeds sold so far?
I don't predict big things for us next year, but I do foresee a massive improvement under Mick Potter and Francis Cummings and hence have the potential to be most improved side next season after the last two years where we've seen no playoff action.
We'll have 11 maybe 12 new players all to gel together and would expect narrow losses in the first two games, but as the season goes on and with the side having geld together, I think that we would as a club be in a playoff place and the chance to a strong finish to the season.
I really do think that Leeds will be the biggest under-achievers next year as the decline sets in at Headingley.'"
Well Mick it just shows how swept along you are mate. you a practically giving session tickets away. I can spend 60 sheets in my local of a weekend. how many of those fans will be there if/when you are near the bottom of the league playing god awful rugby. Just ask the saints fans. Potters tactics are shocking at times. Saints fans will tell you they looked clueless under potter and only players like Cunningham, roby, eastmond, pryce, wellness, Graham and pelutua dragged em over the winning line despite potter. The bulls simply don't have that caliber of player.
Leeds sell around 12000 season tickets with gates between 13000 and 18000. You know this pal.
But you have dropped a klanger here Mick! You say Leeds will be the biggest under achievers which we all know says Leeds are expected to win things. Which totally the opposite to decline. if Leeds win trophies is here nor there sl is a tough comp any of wigan, saints, Leeds, wire or hudds can win sl or the cup. a team in decline isn't expected to win nowt like the bulls arnt expected to win owt. Leeds are expected to win things they are not in decline
You need to work out the difference between not winning trophies, under achieving and a team in decline. Again the last one should be easy for you because you are living it as a bulls fan. When Leeds don't look like making the play offs for 2 or 3 seasons you might be on to something.
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| This tard has one purpose. To make damo look sane and credible. And he does it well
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| Quote ="tad rhino"This tard has one purpose. To make damo look sane and credible. And he does it well'"
Sadly, your argument is irrefutable.
Are you SURE he's not a clone of Damo? You can have him if you want - there's money in it...
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| We want Keith booaza. Is he out of contract yet?
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| Quote ="Swarcliffe Rhino"We want Keith booaza. Is he out of contract yet?'"
Which version of him do you want? You can have the "leave Worrincy alone" version on a free now, but all the other iterations will cost you.
That said, if you promise to take Gledhill on a long-term contract as well - and transfer him to somewhere like Patagonia - we might be able to do a deal...
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| It's like Bulls fans are trying to convince themselves that they have done well out of getting Cummins and Diskin.
There was a reason that they are no longer at Leeds, it's because they were not considered good enough. Diskin was only playing last year out of sentimality rather than form. They only need to go back to the many Buderus v Diskin threads on here to see comments by the ones looking at form to see that.
The suggestion that McClennan got rid of a player over GH is just simply laughable.
All this talk of Leeds decline aswell because of the coaching appointments. Leeds will certainly not be the force they were, but that has nothing to do with the coaches, its the clubs inability to be proactive when it comes to recruitment. Another theme you will see amongst previous threads throughout last season.
But despite any recognition about Leeds going backwards they will still have the massive comfort of not having the slightest chance of been behind the Bulls for any of the next 5 or 6 years.
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| Hmm "LWA!!" Booaza will not put bums on seats behind keyboards its "Rod Studd gave me a tip on the horses, thats 2 weeks money you owe me Rod!" Booaza we need. Gledhill on a free transfer? sorry but no.
We have our own resisdent forum madman in Damo and he's doing a cracking job after a brief spell of below par peformances this year.
Come back to us with your demands and we'll meet at the usual place for RL transfers/rumours/ movers and shakers etc, a service station of your choice on the M62.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"It's like Bulls fans are trying to convince themselves that they have done well out of getting Cummins and Diskin.'"
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!
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