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| Everyone with any semblence of intelligence (and even some who don't have any, seeing as even Eddie & Stevo know about it) must be aware of Sam Tomkins "trap the hand to milk a penalty" ploy, so why does he keep on getting away with it? Granted, it ultimately didn't change the result tonight, but it so easily could have. The most annoying thing is that it's so obvious (unlike the "Schofield tackle" back in the day, which was a tad more discrete....)
Tomkins is a fantastic player (which kind of makes up for his looks and the fact that he's a niggly little ) but he's going to get himself a reputation for this when all he should aim to be talked about for is his ability.
But yet, Leeds are still by far the dirtiest, sneakiest team in SL????
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| Quote ="HyperbolicRhino"Everyone with any semblence of intelligence (and even some who don't have any, seeing as even Eddie & Stevo know about it) must be aware of Sam Tomkins "trap the hand to milk a penalty" ploy, so why does he keep on getting away with it? Granted, it ultimately didn't change the result tonight, but it so easily could have. The most annoying thing is that it's so obvious (unlike the "Schofield tackle" back in the day, which was a tad more discrete....)
Tomkins is a fantastic player (which kind of makes up for his looks and the fact that he's a niggly little lover) but he's going to get himself a reputation for this when all he should aim to be talked about for is his ability.
But yet, Leeds are still by far the dirtiest, sneakiest team in SL????
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So you are suggesting this ' clamping of a tacklers arm ' is something new ?
Every team does it
Now when it comes to tackling players without the ball ?
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| Does anyone do it as blatantly and regularly as Tomkins though?? Or is he ok because he's the next messiah and can't be criticised? For the record there were two off the ball tackles tonight, one by each side - I didn't notice any Leeds players using Tomkins' tactic though, neither it seems did anyone else....
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| Quote ="Starbug"So you are suggesting this ' clamping of a tacklers arm ' is something new ?
Every team does it
Now when it comes to tackling players without the ball ?'"
what do you know? you whinge and snipe us every week so do one clown
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| It's about time the refs wised up to the cheating little , he did it twice tonight, once at Headingley in our last game which got them a penalty in front of the sticks and put them back in front after we got back level. He's undoubtedly a great talent but needs to cut out the sneaky gamemanship, When Maguire & Burrows burst onto the scene in similar fashion they had a similar arrogance in their play but played the game without the blatant cheating
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| It's the perfect crime, isn't it?
Make no attempt to withdraw the arm, penalty for holding down.
Try to force the arm out, penalty for interference.
Hopefully now he's been outed by Sky, refs will start to look out for it.
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| Is it against the rules? No. Stop moaning.
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| The Didier Drogba of Rugby League.
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| Is it against the rules? No
So it should be looked at in the close season for a rule change as it is a deliberate holding onto the defending tackler to gain the penalty. It could be classed as the same as 'holding down' but the opposite
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| it is against the rules. i remember senior once being,rightly, penalised for the same thing.
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| and he has done the same thing all season.
do refs do there homework?
do they watch games?
and what the feck do they do with cummings all week?
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| That looked pretty much like Sinfields hand around Tomkins chin to me.
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| Quote ="TV BOY"That looked pretty much like Sinfields hand around Tomkins chin to me.'"
sinfield should have been done for dissent onat least 2 occassions tonight.
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| Sinny is allowed to dispute penalties because he is the captain ... never mind penalised for dissent
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| Quote ="Starbug"Now when it comes to tackling players without the ball ?'"
...Now when it comes to kicking players on the floor?
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| The bottom line is despite the pie eating cheats Wigan 26 Leeds 27.............GET IN
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| Quote ="Arncliffe Alligator"Sinny is allowed to dispute penalties because he is the captain ... never mind penalised for dissent
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He is allowed to politely ask the referee for clarification on a call.
Not sure he passed that test and was fortunate to not concede an extra ten.
The players need to be careful with their questioning of the official's calls. Sinfield included.
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| Quote ="tvoc"He is allowed to politely ask the referee for clarification on a call.
Not sure he passed that test and was fortunate to not concede an extra ten.
[uThe players need to be careful with their questioning of the official's calls. Sinfield included[/u.'"
Completely agree but i'm sure sinny saw the footage of the abuse Alibert took off Saints the other week so knew he would be ok!
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| Cheats never beat
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| Look, you know as far as Eddie and Stevo are concerned, Sam T is the wonder boy who can do no wrong. The greatest player ever in the game blah blah blah blah blah. More like the most over rated player in the game ever!
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| Quote ="ryano"The Didier Drogba of Rugby League.'"
Shut up Drogba.
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| I'm a Saint and truth be told I'm not that keen on Leeds or Wigan as you might expect, but i found myself praying for a Leeds win after the little crap artist started his antics . no room for this sort of rubbish in our sport so come on Wigan CUT OUT THE CHEATING.
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