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| I feel strongly about this, hence a new thread.
I am not doubting the young kid's potential talent. However he is a passenger, and is offering nothing.
He loses the ball or does a daft off load on a regular basis.
He needs to play National 1 for a year, against experienced older players.
In the meantime, we need to sign an International centre of any nationality.
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| hes 18
hes LEARNING
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| He may be. Can we afford him to learn?
He will learn in National 1
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| Quote ="simy123"He may be. Can we afford him to learn?
He will learn in National 1'"
what will he learn there that he cant learn at the Rhinos?
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| He can learn about his own game in a less intense environment.
I understand your point, but we simply cannot "carry" players, especially in those positions that are crucial.
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| Quote ="Lawrie L"what will he learn there that he cant learn at the Rhinos?'"
In fairness, if he played a season of NL1 he'd be making mistakes (and learning from them) and those mistakes wouldnt be adversely affecting us.
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| You are a cracked record!
You've just started 2 threads talking about the same rubbish!
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| Quote ="simy123"He can learn about his own game in a less intense environment.
I understand your point, but we simply cannot "carry" players, especially in those positions that are crucial.'"
So do we send ablett,diskin,kylie,baileyand jjb with him then because they've been passenger's for the last few week's aswell????
I know what yer saying but he's no worse than many other's at the moment so why just highlight him??
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| Do you have to post 2 sets of crap? Really??
The biggest passenger on the pitch last night was Ablett IMO. He has had a poor few weeks now.
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| Coming into the team the way we are performing at the moment doesn't do Kallum many favours, He came in last season when we were in form and played well, Just look at the St Helens kids who look at home playing in the First Team due to the confidence around the team...
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| Quote ="The Joker®"Coming into the team the way we are performing at the moment doesn't do Kallum many favours, He came in last season when we were in form and played well, Just look at the St Helens kids who look at home playing in the First Team due to the confidence around the team...'"
AGREE. He should be eased into a winning confident side...not thrown in with the present debilitated 'seniors'. Gibson did not deserve to be dropped.
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| Quote ="Hollywood Harrigan"The biggest passenger on the pitch last night was Ablett IMO. He has had a poor few years now.'"
I agree
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| To quote Wayne Bennett, you sometimes have to sacrifice a short term loss for a long term gain. (or something like that.
However, would could have anyone in the right centre at the minute and it wouldn't make much difference. The backs on either side are not getting the ball quick enough. The pack have been pretty shocking all season.
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| I was very suprised in his inclusion last night. After his poor game at bradford he was rightly dropped the following week for the Giants game.
I went to watch him play in the reserves at Huddersfield on the Friday and with no exaggeration at all he was probably the worst player on the pitch. The first 5 touches of the ball he knocked on twice, and tried 3 impossible offloads on the first and second tackles losing the ball in his own half.
He offered absoloutly nothing and also his defence was appalling.
The funny thing was that Brian Mclennan was there for the whole game and then he promotes him back into the first team squad !!!
Words fail me they really do.
I personally dont think Gibson offers anything at all but he is steady, and after the great win at hudds i could not understand the change ??
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| Quote ="simy123"I feel strongly about this, hence a new thread.
I am not doubting the young kid's potential talent. However he is a passenger, and is offering nothing.
He loses the ball or does a daft off load on a regular basis.
He needs to play National 1 for a year, against experienced older players.
In the meantime, we need to sign an International centre of any nationality.'" I feel very strongly that you're a moron but I'll confine that opinion to this thread rather than start a new one.
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| Quote ="simy123"I feel strongly about this, hence a new thread.
I am not doubting the young kid's potential talent. However he is a passenger, and is offering nothing.
He loses the ball or does a daft off load on a regular basis.
He needs to play National 1 for a year, against experienced older players.
In the meantime, we need to sign an International centre of any nationality.'"
Your stupid. And whilst we are playing this style of Rugby it makes jack [i[/i difference, whether we have Greg Inglis in there or not, we will still look poor.
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| I bow to the greater knowledge of previous respondents. Not.
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| Quote ="DISA"Your stupid. And whilst we are playing this style of Rugby it makes jack [ipoop[/i difference, whether we have [size=150Greg Inglis[/size in there or not, we will still look poor.'"
sorry i think it would make a huge difference
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| Quote ="simy123"
He loses the ball or does a daft off load on a regular basis. '"
And Senior did what last night?
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| hes not ready for the first team and not learning from his mistakes, he threw the ball into touch with a stupid flick pass three times the last time i saw him play for the reserves, then he did it again in the first team on friday
poor coaching to pick him after that
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| He'll calm down eventually. Hopefully. But he's not the problem with the team at the moment. And neither, indivudally, are Donald, JJB, Diskin, Ablett etc. The whole TEAM is playing badly.
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| Quote ="Lawrie L"hes 18
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So you admit he's not ready??
That GH has weakened our chances by not signing someon who is ready and NOT learning as a first team week in week out player?
If you do you're smart.
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| Quote ="LeedsPokerGuru"So you admit he's not ready??
That GH has weakened our chances by not signing someon who is ready and NOT learning as a first team week in week out player?
If you do you're smart.'"
How did the likes of Burrow, Mcguire, Sinfield, Mathers, Buchanan become ready?
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| Quote ="Kifaru"How did the likes of Burrow, Mcguire, Sinfield, Mathers, Buchanan become ready?'"
Interesting point. Those players though were not struggling in the way Watkins is. Players learn/improve in different ways, some will adjust quicker than others. Watkins will clearly take a bit longer to adjust to SL than the above players. Hence the reason we needed to bring in an established centre.
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| Quote ="rpw"Interesting point. Those players though were not struggling in the way Watkins is. Players learn/improve in different ways, some will adjust quicker than others. Watkins will clearly take a bit longer to adjust to SL than the above players. Hence the reason we needed to bring in an established centre.'"
Actually in all fairness, all of them looked worse at times than Watkins has. The difference is that with the exception of Mathers, all were thrown in at a time when we were not such a great side anyway, and the expectations not as high. And in relation to JJB it took him years (injuries been a major side of this) to start to look anything like a decent player.
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