Chill! Everybody likes a good moan....some more than others. It depends how serious you are about it all. Expectations are high I suspect because a supposedly high aspiring team like Leeds (on record as stating they want to finish top) with so many incontrovertibly talented players [ishould[/i be capable of such a feat.

The attitude on here is realistic given the standard of play fans are witnessing - as the saying goes you cannot polish a turd.

League position being in the CC semi is irrelevant the standard of entertainment - let's not forget that is all this is - is substandard and getting worse. There are not man positives to take from the garbage that is currently being touted as elite level rugby league.

Even Stevie Wonder can see that

I am chilled.....note the smiley face at the end of the previous post.

Just pointing out how silly and extremely OTT people can get on here IMO. They get all defensive calling themselves realists even though many of their complaints are based around events/failings that have yet to happen yet 'but surely will in the future'......yep Mystic Meg-ing it is always the solid foundation for realism

I interpret the 'criticism' in this case as being that the poster doesn't 'feel / believe' Leeds will score 50+. Intellectually and on a common-sense level, there is no reason to stop them doing it, but I think for a lot of people at the moment (due the downward trend in performances since May) there isn't that 'belief' or 'feeling' that they will.

I think that is what the poster is criticising - to outsiders Leeds 'should' score 50+, but for some on the inside, that je ne sais quoi isn't there.

It's painting by numbers at the moment, rather than turning up and seeing a creative masterpiece unfold spontaneously.

Or something...

If you paint by numbers, you follow the sequence and you make it to the end.

On last Friday's showing I wouldn't be so sure, we'd probably drop the palette or the paintbrush.

IMHO Leeds save their best moves and their best tactics for the bigger more important games.

With the current structure why show all of your cards during meaningless fixtures?

I think we will see a bit more structure and guile this weekend.

Yup, you should see us in CC finals

One thing is for sure the performance on Saturday win or lose will be whole lot better than Friday night.

The players will give it everything and as a fan you cannot ask anymore.

If it's the headless chicken routine and below par performance of the last couple of months, then I will certainly not be a happy bunny.

Anything less than a full 80 minute gut busting performance is required. And I sincerely hope that in training this week, someone has pointed out to our wingers the direction that traditionally they would be expected to run in......ie, towards the opposition try line, and not sideways across the pitch!

It's definitely a fingers crossed match, rather than a bring it on type.

..."a bit more" ...?? hmmmmm.. Good enough for just a 30 points loss instead of 50 then?

The wingers probably think hey it works for Burrow ....once in a season and [ihe[/i is praised for his guile.

To be honest I thought you a better man..."bring it on" I say. They all have at least [uTWO[/u guts to bust after their last miserable performances. Briscoe probably has THREE. McGuire TWENTY

Mega LOLZ

Big big problems.

Leeds Rhinos, papering over the cracks with finals since 2006.

Or leeds, only playing when they feel like it since 2011

Leeds haven't actually won a trophy yet, so the hindsight retorts would probably be better saved until after the CC final and grand final when we know for sure the outcome of the season.

In my original post I predicted cas to win the CC and wigan to win the grand final. Both of those are still very much on. Especially cas.

Of course the original thread title ''BIG PROBLEMS'' was sensationlist, bradford and london have big problems. But alot of the issues raised may still stand. Warrington were very poor in the first half on saturday and leeds were impressive. Fair play, they stepped up the game. Most notably the agressive defence and line speed and the general lack of penalties or handling errors in our own half.

After 15 minutes I thought ''here we go'', because we had battered warrington's line repeatedly and only had a 2 point lead. But thanks to some Hall brilliance we got a cushion and never looked back.

We are well and truly in crunch time for the season now, with a CC final and playoff all coming up in a matter of weeks.

dont forget LLS and WCC.

And this why the retorts have happened. Granted we have areas we need to improve but the way some go on you'd think we were the worst team in the league. Maybe if/when people can stop with the Daily Star/The Sun type OTT claims/posts then the board and threads will improve as a more realistic approach can be arrived at.

Pity you didn't apply this logic to yourself before posting so many negative comments




Leeds totally dominated Warrington with excellent line speed and many of the their errors were a result of our fast and effective defense. Credit to Brain Mac for a good game plan and preparation for this match.

The thanks was due not just to Hall's brilliance was it? Our pack created the platform and along with some excellent kicks by Mags and Burrow we also dominated field position. Hall's first try came from a very good cut out pass from Mags and class centre play from Moon before his own brilliant finish.

Hall's second try was a walk in due to again a superb pass from McGuire after a great kick return from Hardaker which was taken on quickly by Burrow and JP.

Moon's try was the result of dominant approach play from Ablett, JP and Burrow to create the field position and then another superbly timed pass from McGuire and a classy finish from Moon

There were other notable times when the players showed great team spirit and a will to win for example when Ablett streaked back to make a try saving tackle and Briscoe despite being in a run of poor form showed his class with an individual well taken try. In other words this was an excellent all round team performance which shows our players and coach are very much in with a chance of winning the double (even the treble)



Yes and isn't it wonderful? To make it to these "crunch times" is every teams ambition and here we are once again in there with a great chance.

Perhaps you could give some credit to the players and coach for once.

Two things;

1. Give yourself a slap.
2. Hand over your fan card before Friday's game.

You won't get much argument about number 1 from fans of other clubs