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| Quote ="WidnesJohn"Dodgy dodgy decisions where to blame for tonight's defeat, nothing to do with McDermott who is a top coach.
Maybe one or two 'Whinos' will still be calling for his head.'"
Any need to dig up this stupid thread?
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| I wouldn't be too fussed if he went to be honest but I'm by no means "anti-McDermott"
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| Quote ="WidnesJohn"Dodgy dodgy decisions where to blame for tonight's defeat, nothing to do with McDermott who is a top coach.
Maybe one or two 'Whinos' will still be calling for his head.'"
Why is it whenever we lose, some douche bag revives this thread?
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| Quote ="pokerface"Why is it whenever we lose, some douche bag revives this thread?'"
Fcking annoying isn't it
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| Also, for all the 'McDermott won't pick kids' Brigade.
Jones-Bishop: on loan at Quins with BMac, won 1st team place under BMAC
Watkins: won 1st team place under BMac
Sutcliffe: given debut under BMac
Robbie Ward: given debut under BMac
Clarkson: BMac stuck with him despite not kicking on
Stevie Ward: given debut under BMac
Walters: given debut under BMac
Luke Briscoe: given debut under BMac
not to mention Minns, Duckworth, Foster, Minchella, Keinhorst & Singleton - all given debuts by BMac and still at the club.
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| Quote ="Worlds Apart"Also, for all the 'McDermott won't pick kids' Brigade.
Jones-Bishop: on loan at Quins with BMac, won 1st team place under BMAC
Watkins: won 1st team place under BMac
Sutcliffe: given debut under BMac
Robbie Ward: given debut under BMac
Clarkson: BMac stuck with him despite not kicking on
Stevie Ward: given debut under BMac
Walters: given debut under BMac
Luke Briscoe: given debut under BMac
not to mention Minns, Duckworth, Foster, Minchella, Keinhorst & Singleton - all given debuts by BMac and still at the club.'"
Facts don't fit agendas sssh
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| I'm sure one or two may be calling for the head of Brian tonight but it would be harsh.
It was a good game for us neutral's to watch and could have gone either way.
Your coach needs to be cut a bit of slack rather than criticism.
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| no structure, no shape, no gameplan but yeah he picks kids so thats ok
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| Quote ="tad rhino"no structure, no shape, no gameplan but yeah he picks kids so thats ok'"
When we were playing well earlier in the year people complained still because he wasn't picking kids and we could be even much better with X, Y and Z from the academy in the team,
More inexperience in the team and the structure, gameplan, shape suffer.....
Which is it people want???
Shall we just blame McGuire alone I suppose??
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| I'm genuinely unsure how much more he could do at this point, some people on here called for McDermott out three years ago and are now determined to get their way, results regardless.
Playing with half a team, with losses in key positions and lots of players filling in at positions other than their own, going down by 2 points to a fired-up side battling relegation in a game we would have won if any of our three place-kickers was playing.
Same story against Huddersfield, we dragged ourselves over the line against Catalans and Widnes, two tough fixtures.
Compare that to the teams that everyone sucks off on here, the likes of Wigan (shipped 36 against Wakefield to our 14) or Saints (beaten 42-0 by Catalans and 40-10 by HKR).
For how we're set in terms of absentees and players filling in, we aren't doing too badly at all.
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| Instead of the predictable criticism of Brian for tonight's poor result, or even trying to blame the referee who got most things right, look no further than your own 'Sir' Kevin Sinfield for the loss of a valuable point.
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| Quote ="WidnesJohn"Instead of the predictable criticism of Brian for tonight's poor result, or even trying to blame the referee who got most things right, look no further than your own 'Sir' Kevin Sinfield for the loss of a valuable point.'"
I think most of not all would say that was the shock of the season (if not the last 10)....Dorn must have had some very choice words
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| Please do not respond to Widnesjohn, he goes on different teams threads trying to wind em up. He's even found this thread from 11 days since last response.
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| Quote ="WidnesJohn"Instead of the predictable criticism of Brian for tonight's poor result, or even trying to blame the referee who got most things right, look no further than your own 'Sir' Kevin Sinfield for the loss of a valuable point.'"
Think you may need to purchase a bigger fishing rod.....
At least you got Sir Kev's name and title right.
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| no complaints on the Sinfield issue , thought our coach again came 2nd but as for Thaler sorry can't have him as a decent ref . Brain Farts from Aiton and Danny made decisions fot him but he was summed up at the end when cas dropped at goal and it hit their own player on the back in an offside position and he let play go on .
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| To late your off responding to him. Just look at the Widnes Forum to see how much it's used
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| Not this f*cking thread again
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| I am sorry I have said this many time over the tenure of our coach, he is clearly not up to making the changes that Leeds need to move forward. For two years uit has been clear we need a top quality half back, our props are getting old but he does nothing. Please go now
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| Quote ="huddersfield rhino"I am sorry I have said this many time over the tenure of our coach, he is clearly not up to making the changes that Leeds need to move forward. For two years uit has been clear we need a top quality half back, our props are getting old but he does nothing. Please go now'"
Yawn
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| Quote ="huddersfield rhino"we need a top quality half back'"
Because they're loads of them floating around available isn't there.
Quote ="Huddersfield Rhino"our props are getting old but he does nothing.'"
Apart from get Cuthbertson for next year, have Singleton in the team most weeks this year, tried Achurch there at times (although I prefer him to be at 2nd row if I'm honest), hoped to give Yates a shot this year and has given Mulhern 3 games this year with the potential for more?
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| I've avoided this thread since its existence, but we really are a S#!t side. Pi$$ poor for the talent we have.
Do we have ANY, ANY, attacking plays?
To my eye I've seen far better attacking structure in the amateur leagues and that seriously is no exaggeration. Our attack is solely passing along a line of 13, hoping for a missed tackle, or end the play with the centre dropping off the winger on the inside, then play individual brilliance off load mayhem. A load of e.
I've been supporting Leeds for 13 years. A season ticket holder for every one of those. Never thought I'd consider not getting one and not supporting my side. But if Heatherington and Co are in bed with McDermott that much, and seriously think that is the best rugby the so called best ever Leeds squad can come up with, then I'm not going to be gullible enough and disrespected into buying into the money making scheme.
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| Quote ="RhinoNeil"I've avoided this thread since its existence, but we really are a S#!t side. Pi$$ poor for the talent we have.
Do we have ANY, ANY, attacking plays?
To my eye I've seen far better attacking structure in the amateur leagues and that seriously is no exaggeration. Our attack is solely passing along a line of 13, hoping for a missed tackle, or end the play with the centre dropping off the winger on the inside, then play individual brilliance off load mayhem. A load of e.
I've been supporting Leeds for 13 years. A season ticket holder for every one of those. Never thought I'd consider not getting one and not supporting my side. But if Heatherington and Co are in bed with McDermott that much, and seriously think that is the best rugby the so called best ever Leeds squad can come up with, then I'm not going to be gullible enough and disrespected into buying into the money making scheme.'"
You are not far wrong mate. We have had some extremely good players at this club during this successful era, players that can win matches on their own. During McDermotts reign that's what has happened. He has relied on those special players for individual brilliance to get us to our goals. We are not coached as a team, and never have been under his tenure.
I do think he is learning in the role as he goes along, and IMO is improving in areas. However, until we see something on the pitch that shows anything forming tactics, I just do not know what he does with them through the week.
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| Quote ="huddersfield rhino"I am sorry I have said this many time over the tenure of our coach, he is clearly not up to making the changes that Leeds need to move forward. For two years uit has been clear we need a top quality half back, our props are getting old but he does nothing. Please go now'"
Sorry to butt in
With 6 games to go you're top of the league and in the Challenge Cup Final, McDermott has a track record of Grand Final wins and World Club Championships under his belt
What are you complaining about?
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| Quote ="The Avenger"Sorry to butt in
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Really?
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| What a pathetic lot some of you are! Currently top of the league, two Grand Final wins since this thread was started and you still keep it going... What the hell do you want?
Face it, you have probably been the best side bar none under Brian Mac and you still want more. Give the bloke a break. Yes, your squad are getting older (sadly that comes to us all) but the likes of Peacock, Burrow, even Sinfield are still top drawer (imo). Your kids are coming through really good and the future probably looks better for Leeds than any other SL team due to the excellent management of Hetherington and Caddick.
Oh my God, I'm doing your job - supporting Leeds - [size=150AND I'M A CAS FAN![/size Get a grip and enjoy the rugby instead of bitching for the sake of it.
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