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| Quote ="Gotcha"Put the tongue away, and grow up.
Whatever, it doesn't change that I am right what I put.'"
Yes, you were so confident in what you put that you've been back and edited it to explain that "covering his ass" meant something other than what anyone else would have thought it meant.
Well, that's what I think you've put, you'll probably say different.
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| Quote ="El Barbudo"Yes, you were so confident in what you put that you've been back and edited it to explain that "covering his ass" meant something other than what anyone else would have thought it meant.'"
Thank you for proving exactly my point about this little clique.
You haven't even read the edit at the bottom.
Oh well, it's not as if I really give a gnats chuff, you should at least know that by now.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Thank you for proving exactly my point about this little clique.
You haven't even read the edit at the bottom.
Oh well, it's not as if I really give a gnats chuff, you should at least know that by now.'"
I don't think I post enough on here to be classified as a member of a clique, but I'm sure that your interpretation of what you meant covers whatever you may or may not have said. I took exception to you suggesting that the most successful captain of Leeds ever had made the comments quoted as an ass covering exercise. I totally disagreed with that suggestion and held you to account for it. For this I have been told to "grow up" and been accused of being a member of a clique.
there are many discussions where I could post as part of a clique, when you are having your regular "debates" (sic) with G1 and others, but I choose not to get into these "debates" as they tend to turn me off RLFans, much as I ignore the agenda driven posts of some on here.
If the fact that I disagree with your comments upsets you then so be it but you attempts to put me down, tend to say a lot more about your goodself than my original comment.
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| Quote ="finglas"I don't think I post enough on here to be classified as a member of a clique, but I'm sure that your interpretation of what you meant covers whatever you may or may not have said. I took exception to you suggesting that the most successful captain of Leeds ever had made the comments quoted as an ass covering exercise. I totally disagreed with that suggestion and held you to account for it. For this I have been told to "grow up" and been accused of being a member of a clique.'"
If by dissagree you mean that you feel Sinfields comments were sincere and that he really did think McDermott the best, then I will apologise to you.
If you dissagree because of some childish agenda driven interpretation then obviously I stick by my comments.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Thank you for proving exactly my point about this little clique.
'" Just because you think everyone is out to get you, it doesn't make you paranoid eh fella?
I've noticed a trend on here recently. If anyone disagrees with you, they're a fooking idiot. If anyone agrees with a poster who disagrees with you (which happens quite a lot amazingly), they're a bum licker or in a clique.
Perhaps you may wish to pause and reflect. You've been told by many different posters on here during the last few weeks about your tendancy to type something and claim you meant something different. I am pleased it's not just me. It's been posters that I have never met and do not know. Posters whose tongues have never been near my anus.
I think you need to tone down your aggression and maybe just proof read what you're typing before you hit submit, then you might have less issues and more credibility. I am sure you can put accross your meaning articulately enough during oral exchanges but you need to work harder on your written dialogue.
Just a freindly heads up.
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| Quote ="G1"Just because you think everyone is out to get you, it doesn't make you paranoid eh fella?
I've noticed a trend on here recently. If anyone disagrees with you, they're a fooking idiot. If anyone agrees with a poster who disagrees with you (which happens quite a lot amazingly), they're a bum licker or in a clique.
Perhaps you may wish to pause and reflect. You've been told by many different posters on here during the last few weeks about your tendancy to type something and claim you meant something different. I am pleased it's not just me. It's been posters that I have never met and do not know. Posters whose tongues have never been near my anus.
I think you need to tone down your aggression and maybe just proof read what you're typing before you hit submit, then you might have less issues and more credibility. I am sure you can put accross your meaning articulately enough during oral exchanges but you need to work harder on your written dialogue.
Just a freindly heads up.'"
Bless. Stop the sexy talk, and I wouldn't need to indulge.
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| I agree that Sinfields comments about McDermott go way beyond that of ass covering or towing the party line. There is being complimentary to your boss, and there is gushing praise on him. I think Sinfield is closer to the latter.
FWIW, my opinion the reason sinfield gushes so much is that the togetherness and belief that McDermott brings to the squad is unmatched. I think that the playuers want to play for each other. I think where we are missing is a real technical #2 who can work on the other aspects of the game which McDermott is not necessarily so hot on
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| Quote ="The Eagle"I agree that Sinfields comments about McDermott go way beyond that of ass covering or towing the party line. There is being complimentary to your boss, and there is gushing praise on him. I think Sinfield is closer to the latter.
FWIW, my opinion the reason sinfield gushes so much is that the togetherness and belief that McDermott brings to the squad is unmatched. I think that the playuers want to play for each other. I think where we are missing is a real technical #2 who can work on the other aspects of the game which McDermott is not necessarily so hot on'"
That's my take on it too. Alternatively maybe there is technical proficiency there but it is deliberately being withheld for the playoffs with the coaching team taking the view that Leeds can get to the playoffs through grunt rather than exquisite rugby. Although that could be wishful thinking.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Thank you for proving exactly my point about this little clique...'"
I have no idea how that proves anything about a clique.
Quote ="Gotcha"You haven't even read the edit at the bottom...'"
Yes, I had.
It underlines the fact that your meaning is not the same as everyone else's.
Quote ="Gotcha"Oh well, it's not as if I really give a gnats chuff, you should at least know that by now.'"
Your giving (or not giving) of the aforesaid gnat's chuff is of total disinterest to me.
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| McDermott moved Sinfield from loose forward to stand-off, Sinfield has since generally defended one man in from the wing lightening his defensive duties in order to extend his career - IIRC Sinfield publicly lobbied for this positional change through the back pages of the YEP. Probably the same back pages where some time later he sung the praises of the current Leeds coach.
Some might form a subliminal connection between the two articles although obviously they would be entirely wrong to do so.
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| Quote ="tvoc"McDermott moved Sinfield from loose forward to stand-off, Sinfield has since generally defended one man in from the wing lightening his defensive duties in order to extend his career - IIRC Sinfield publicly lobbied for this positional change through the back pages of the YEP. Probably the same back pages where some time later he sung the praises of the current Leeds coach.
Some might form a subliminal connection between the two articles although obviously they would be entirely wrong to do so.'"
I wonder if you have the link to the former article?
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| Yeah it's not like Tony Smith played Sinfield in the halves in the 2004 GF, 2005 WCC & 2005 CC..........oh wait.
Given that McGuire was missing for the first few months of his reign then Sinfield moving to 6 was obvious.......but lets ignore all that common sense nonsense and invent that he forced his way there through a combination of demanding it/butt kissing.
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| i love re visiting these old posts and seeing how certain things pan out
this one from a couple of years ago was a belter,i have deleted his name in order that his massive ego remains intact
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Peacock - finished he was terrible today and his knock on killed the momentum - he should have been pensioned off.'"
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| Quote ="Jonesy's a Legend"i love re visiting these old posts and seeing how certain things pan out
this one from a couple of years ago was a belter,i have deleted his name in order that his massive ego remains intact
'" Put the text into google an it comes up pretty damned quickly
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| Watching as a neutral, I don't think Brian got his tactics right tonight. St Helens were there for the taking with that side out.
I'm sure a few of the 'McDermott Out' brigade may resurface tonight.
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| for the live of god Mcdermott sort your interchange policy out!!
good to see this one brought back after one close defeat.
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| So what would happen if Mac went?Under Mac are team real under achievers?
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| I couldn't agree more with this thread
More so it should be accepted that any coach that ONLY wins 2 grand finals during his 3 year tenure should be relieved of his duties immediately
Just wait until you suffer losing 5 GF's on the trot and with a side and coach that your fans love and respect eh
Get a life guys
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| Quote ="I Grope Balls"I couldn't agree more with this thread
More so it should be accepted that any coach that ONLY wins 2 grand finals during his 3 year tenure should be relieved of his duties immediately
Just wait until you suffer losing 5 GF's on the trot and with a side and coach that your fans love and respect eh
Get a life guys'"
You get a special first Troll of the year award.That has gone to Huddersfield trolls last couple of years,but they are licking their wounds now.We haven't had many saints trolls at this time of year they used to troll a week before the GF and you know what?we didn't believe em then either
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| Quote ="lionarmour87"You get a special first Troll of the year award.That has gone to Huddersfield trolls last couple of years,but they are licking their wounds now.We haven't had many saints trolls at this time of year they used to troll a week before the GF and you know what?we didn't believe em then either'"
If you read my posts correctly i am actually praising your club and not trolling
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| To me you have not been on here very often and just coming on here carrying on your beating of Leeds when you didn't expect it.It is a form of trolling.
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| Quote ="lionarmour87"To me you have not been on here very often and just coming on here carrying on your beating of Leeds when you didn't expect it.It is a form of trolling.'"
Could you please show me my posts that you believe that i have in your perception have been of a trolling nature?
You are correct that i haven't been on here very often but then again why would i come on here other than after one of our clubs games against each other?
How could you deem that as trolling as I don't even post on my own forum that often either
To make it easier for you to comprehend i will sum up my thoughts in more simplified terms for you in regards to what i have posted thus far
I would love Ryan Hall at the Saints
I can't understand why your fans dislike Brian McDermott as he has won 2 GF's in his first 3 seasons as coach
Is that easier to comprehend in it's simplified form ?
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| IMO BMcD had a game plan which, in all fairness, was pretty decent - nothing fancy, grind down the relatively young and inexperienced team with a stronger, dominant pack, wait for the mistakes then exploit them.
Problem was Saints weren't making that many mistakes and soaked up everything we through at them. This is where BMcD should have instigated 'Plan B'. The trouble was we didn't have a Plan B and he kept to the same rigid formula right up to the final whistle. This is his strength as a coach but also his weakness, it will win us games but also lose some. Rough with the smooth so to speak.
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| Quote ="Fat Boy"IMO BMcD had a game plan which, in all fairness, was pretty decent - nothing fancy, grind down the relatively young and inexperienced team with a stronger, dominant pack, wait for the mistakes then exploit them.
Problem was Saints weren't making that many mistakes and soaked up everything we through at them. This is where BMcD should have instigated 'Plan B'. The trouble was we didn't have a Plan B and he kept to the same rigid formula right up to the final whistle. This is his strength as a coach but also his weakness, it will win us games but also lose some. Rough with the smooth so to speak.'"
Fair comment. But what would your Plan B have been and at what stage in the game would you have made the change. Bearing in mind it was a touch of brilliant play that won it for Saints in the last few minutes. Had Sinfield dropped the goal Plan A would could have been successful.
Mac was unable to use Aiton due to illness which must have upset his week long practice and on the night he lost JJB and subs Clarkson and Singleton offered no impact. Yet we were still in the game to draw or win until the final moments so I can understand why he felt our extra experience would triumph in the end.
However had it been my shout I would have made changes after the controversial Saints no try (when Hall took their man out as he was about to score) when IMO the writing was on the wall and it looked like being their night. So I would have brought on BJB at FB moved Hardaker to centre, Burrow to SH, Sinfield to 9, Ward into the pack for Clarkson and Mags to 6. Ok I know this is a lot of changes but firstly these changes would have players either in their favoured positions or where they have experience so all would have been comfortable. And secondly this change around could have upset the Saints defence as we would have some extra pace in the halves and at FB (where Hardaker had not the answer or the pace to overcome their kick chases) Had we made these changes there was no guarantee that we would have won because as I said it was to be their night and Mac would have been roundly criticised for panicking.
The Saints were very good on both defence and attack and in Lomax they had IMO the MOM and the best FB in SL. They also went out of their way to slow down our PTB and to also tire out our back three with an excellent kicking game and chase. That none of our backs looked like making a break speaks volumes for their defence but this was assisted by our slow PTBs and slow half backs.
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| Quote ="Juan Cornetto"Fair comment. But what would your Plan B have been and at what stage in the game would you have made the change. Bearing in mind it was a touch of brilliant play that won it for Saints in the last few minutes. Had Sinfield dropped the goal Plan A would could have been successful.
Mac was unable to use Aiton due to illness which must have upset his week long practice and on the night he lost JJB and subs Clarkson and Singleton offered no impact. Yet we were still in the game to draw or win until the final moments so I can understand why he felt our extra experience would triumph in the end.
However had it been my shout I would have made changes after the controversial Saints no try (when Hall took their man out as he was about to score) when IMO the writing was on the wall and it looked like being their night. So I would have brought on BJB at FB moved Hardaker to centre, Burrow to SH, Sinfield to 9, Ward into the pack for Clarkson and Mags to 6. Ok I know this is a lot of changes but firstly these changes would have players either in their favoured positions or where they have experience so all would have been comfortable. And secondly this change around could have upset the Saints defence as we would have some extra pace in the halves and at FB (where Hardaker had not the answer or the pace to overcome their kick chases) Had we made these changes there was no guarantee that we would have won because as I said it was to be their night and Mac would have been roundly criticised for panicking.
The Saints were very good on both defence and attack and in Lomax they had IMO the MOM and the best FB in SL. They also went out of their way to slow down our PTB and to also tire out our back three with an excellent kicking game and chase. That none of our backs looked like making a break speaks volumes for their defence but this was assisted by our slow PTBs and slow half backs.'"
Having BJB warming the bench gave BMcD a bucket load of alternative options - the most obvious being the one you've already mentioned where he comes on at FB for Ward with Zak taking the centre role.
With the 'through the middle' approach not working (which was clearly obvious by the hour mark) we should have been looking to ship the ball down our very talented 3/4 line at every opportunity. If we'd still had lost the game then fair enough but BMcD had options that he didn't even explore which, IMO suggests he dropped the ball on this one.
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